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Offline Vintagewife3

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Re: Trads raising feminist daughters
« Reply #60 on: July 03, 2018, 08:16:50 PM »
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  • I / we also struggle with this point.  My husband will not allow me to see a male doctor but we both disagree with female higher education except in medicine - a dilemma I agree.
    I actually had the uncomfortable situation with a male obgyn.... I do try to remember that before women became doctors. We only had Male doctors. So, a lot of women had this uncomfortable moment.

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    Re: Trads raising feminist daughters
    « Reply #61 on: July 03, 2018, 08:18:28 PM »
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  • Go to a midwife for your annual checkup. Cheaper too.

    Good on you for keeping your girls close.


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    Re: Trads raising feminist daughters
    « Reply #62 on: July 03, 2018, 08:20:30 PM »
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  • Should be a requirement, not just encouragement.  If she disagrees, then shes cut from the will and no marriage reception help.  It's that important to her salvation.

    Well, yeah, it's a given that we'd forbid her from living with a boyfriend/fiancee. So are you saying to cut her from the will if she moves out of our house at say, the age of 30 with no prospective husband?
    Religion clean and undefiled before God and the Father, is this: to visit the fatherless and widows in their tribulation: and to keep one's self unspotted from this world.
    ~James 1:27

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    Re: Trads raising feminist daughters
    « Reply #63 on: July 03, 2018, 08:40:16 PM »
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  • Let her be a midwife.
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    Midwives can't deal with all women's health issues.

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    Re: Trads raising feminist daughters
    « Reply #64 on: July 03, 2018, 10:22:36 PM »
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  • Mothers do good in teaching their daughters to stay away from the lies of Feminism for their own good and the good of everyone. In order to do so though, they themselves need to be aware of how the disease operates.
    If anyone says that true and natural water is not necessary for baptism and thus twists into some metaphor the words of our Lord Jesus Christ" Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit" (Jn 3:5) let him be anathema.


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    Re: Trads raising feminist daughters
    « Reply #65 on: July 03, 2018, 11:05:25 PM »
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    Well, yeah, it's a given that we'd forbid her from living with a boyfriend/fiancee. So are you saying to cut her from the will if she moves out of our house at say, the age of 30 with no prospective husband?
    She shouldn’t be allowed to move out and live with a girlfriend, boyfriend, or alone.  Maybe 30 is a good cutoff age?  I don’t know, but sounds good.  Obviously this is all theoretical, assuming the parents have room where she can stay.  I’m just preaching the ideal.  Circuмstances dictate differences.  The point is to keep your daughter away from bad influences until they are mentally mature, which in our day is probably not til 30 (at best). 

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    Re: Trads raising feminist daughters
    « Reply #66 on: July 04, 2018, 02:51:22 AM »
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  • She shouldn’t be allowed to move out and live with a girlfriend, boyfriend, or alone.  Maybe 30 is a good cutoff age?  I don’t know, but sounds good.  Obviously this is all theoretical, assuming the parents have room where she can stay.  I’m just preaching the ideal.  Circuмstances dictate differences.  The point is to keep your daughter away from bad influences until they are mentally mature, which in our day is probably not til 30 (at best).
    In principle I agree but I don’t think it is so much age as circuмstance.  God did not intend women of any age to be without protection and guidance. A daughter should generally remain under her family until she either marries or joins a religious order.  

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    Re: Trads raising feminist daughters
    « Reply #67 on: July 04, 2018, 08:55:25 AM »
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  • Smedley, CDF is like any other arrogant, entitled, mixed-up teenager today.  Have pity on him and pray he grows up soon so he can do God's will for his life.
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    A quiet PM to the moderator is all that is needed.  Matthew will do the rest, as he sees fit.


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    Re: Trads raising feminist daughters
    « Reply #68 on: July 04, 2018, 09:01:00 AM »
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  • The other issue which hasn't been mentioned isthat when a woman works she is taking a job that cpcould be held by man.

    She is therefore preventing a man from supporting a family and contributing to the subversion of society. 

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    Re: Trads raising feminist daughters
    « Reply #69 on: July 04, 2018, 09:07:36 AM »
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  • The other issue which hasn't been mentioned isthat when a woman works she is taking a job that cpcould be held by man.

    She is therefore preventing a man from supporting a family and contributing to the subversion of society.
    Not necessarily.
    If the man is lazy and won't bring in enough income to support the family, the wife has to do it.  Or when husband and wife marry, the woman has a job with benefits and the man without.  The man wants the woman to continue working so the family can have benefits.  I have seen these happen more times than I care to count.

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    Re: Trads raising feminist daughters
    « Reply #70 on: July 04, 2018, 09:17:01 AM »
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  • No, it is not the goal.

    There are too many recent "Trad" girls being sent off to college to do "something highly important. "


    And it is encouraged as though we are non-Catholic members of the world.

    We are to be a contradiction to the world.

    I'm not sure it's that rather than the idea that there's a shortage of Traditional Catholic men (much less good Traditional Catholic men) out there, and so the idea is for the women to be able to support themselves if they can't find a husband.  Now, I agree that this is not the ideal, but it's just people trying to deal with the reality of modern society.  In your typical Traditional chapel, you'll find a handful of eligible single men and a handful of eligible single women.  And so their options/choices are very limited.  I've seen "forced" marriages along these lines, and often people end up together -- due to the shortage -- who probably should not have been together due to differences in temperament and other natural incompatibilities.  It's not enough that people have the same faith for them to have a happy marriage, since nature also plays a part.  Similarly, there are artificial constraints with regard to religious vocations.  In the glory days of the Church, a person had dozens and dozens of religious orders with different spirituality and philosophy, so that it was much more likely that someone could find a path that suited his nature.  That's why the Church has allowed and even promoted so much variety.  One size doesn't fit all.  Similarly with marriage, back in the day, in your busy parish with hundreds and even thousands of families, the likelihood of finding someone who's compatible greatly increase.


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    Re: Trads raising feminist daughters
    « Reply #71 on: July 04, 2018, 09:24:09 AM »
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  • So then women go to college to support themselves, and in becoming somewhat independent that way, naturally can develop certain feminist attitudes.

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    Re: Trads raising feminist daughters
    « Reply #72 on: July 04, 2018, 09:29:24 AM »
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  • I / we also struggle with this point.  My husband will not allow me to see a male doctor but we both disagree with female higher education except in medicine - a dilemma I agree.

    We tried sticking with female ob/gyns but every one turned out to be incompetent.  Serious errors were made that could have endangered the babies.

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    Re: Trads raising feminist daughters
    « Reply #73 on: July 04, 2018, 09:31:39 AM »
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  • Are you trying to say you're a homo?  

    It's sure starting to come across that way.   :)

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    Re: Trads raising feminist daughters
    « Reply #74 on: July 04, 2018, 09:41:34 AM »
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  • We tried sticking with female ob/gyns but every one turned out to be incompetent.  Serious errors were made that could have endangered the babies.
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    You are correct.  I nearly died due to a female OB who was on call at the ER.
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    My brother went through medical school and he said all the women and blacks got special treatment.  They were allowed to repeat exams in order to pass.  This was at UCLA a long time ago, so I don't know if it is better or worse now.  I don't know if other schools do the same, but I do know universities graduate minorities who can't read or write...
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    As a general rule we try to stick with white male doctors, although i will admit our general practice family doctor is an older female, only because she is not arrogant, not a feminist, knows her limitations, supports natural remedies, and works with us.  My husband has a male doctor.