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Offline Smedley Butler

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Trads raising feminist daughters
« on: July 03, 2018, 08:22:43 AM »
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    • On the other thread,  Jaynek said Trads are "subtly influenced" by feminism.

    I will say it is MUCH worse than this.

    I see Trads raising feminist daughters.

    Examples:

    Science and university attendence emphasized by stay-at-home mothers.

    Female graduates who came from homes with many children stating they "don't want kids. "


    And the mothers viewing that as NORMAL.

    If you spent the last 20 years in the home fulfilling God's female role raising your children and they reject motherhood, you have failed! 

    Worse, if you think your daughter wanting to go be a scientist and not have kids is okay, YOU ARE A FEMINIST.
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    Re: Trads raising feminist daughters
    « Reply #1 on: July 03, 2018, 08:36:40 AM »
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    • I am not a feminist. I do know some women these days who just should not be mothers... That doesn’t make me a feminist. I’m acknowledging that most women have moved so far from their natural role they need to do some serious deep thinking before bringing a baby into their own problems.

    My girls I try to read a lot about home making. I try to watch shows, and movies that always made me dream about being a wife/mother. I also read a ton about St. Rita, Blessed Mother, and any other wife/Saint. I also make them take a role is watching out for baby brother.... Poor guy has three mommies!
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    Re: Trads raising feminist daughters
    « Reply #2 on: July 03, 2018, 09:09:13 AM »
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    • Yes. I have seen this too.  They homeschool and then send the girls to community college and wonder why the girls are rebelling at home.   I was confused.  
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    Re: Trads raising feminist daughters
    « Reply #3 on: July 03, 2018, 09:25:13 AM »
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    • The VAST MAJORITY of Trads raise their girls in a stay-home mom setup with many siblings and a Catholic education.


    If at the end of that your daughter rejects motherhood to work, you have FAILED.


    And worse, if you think that is an "acceptible" outcome, YOU ARE A FEMINIST.
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    Re: Trads raising feminist daughters
    « Reply #4 on: July 03, 2018, 09:41:46 AM »
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    • Quote from: Smedley Butler on July 03, 2018, 08:22:43 AM
    If you spent the last 20 years in the home fulfilling God's female role raising your children and they reject motherhood, you have failed!
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    I beg to differ.  
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    Was it God's fault that Eve chose to listen to the serpent?
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    We have a fallen nature and a free will.  There comes a point where the blame is no longer on the parents, but on the young adults themselves.
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    Re: Trads raising feminist daughters
    « Reply #5 on: July 03, 2018, 09:43:09 AM »
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    • Quote from: Vintagewife3 on July 03, 2018, 08:36:40 AM
    I’m acknowledging that most women have moved so far from their natural role they need to do some serious deep thinking before bringing a baby into their own problems.
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    It is not their choice to make.  It is God's.
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    Re: Trads raising feminist daughters
    « Reply #6 on: July 03, 2018, 09:49:07 AM »
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    • Quote from: Smedley Butler on July 03, 2018, 09:25:13 AM
    The VAST MAJORITY of Trads raise their girls in a stay-home mom setup with many siblings and a Catholic education.


    If at the end of that your daughter rejects motherhood to work, you have FAILED.


    And worse, if you think that is an "acceptible" outcome, YOU ARE A FEMINIST.
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    Sorry smedley.  I often agree with you, but here I flat out don't.
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    Everyone has free will.  No matter how good and holy parents may be, a child can choose to stray. 
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    Re: Trads raising feminist daughters
    « Reply #7 on: July 03, 2018, 09:50:33 AM »
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    • Quote from: TxTrad on July 03, 2018, 09:41:46 AM
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    I beg to differ.  
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    Was it God's fault that Eve chose to listen to the serpent?
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    We have a fallen nature and a free will.  There comes a point where the blame is no longer on the parents, but on the young adults themselves.
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    You have missed the point.
    Yes a child has free will.
    The problem is that the mothers are not "subtly influenced" they are so indoctrinated by the WORLD that they think it's OKAY.
    It's not okay.
    Raising more feminists is not okay.
    You should be asking yourself why you are okay with your daughter growing up to be a barren worker bee.
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    Re: Trads raising feminist daughters
    « Reply #8 on: July 03, 2018, 09:53:51 AM »
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    • I'm getting thumbs down from disgruntled women who don't admit their own feminism.


    Thumbs down from women who think they have "succeeded" by raising a girl who disdains motherhood. Thinks they have "succeeded" by raising a girl who becomes a physicist. 
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    Re: Trads raising feminist daughters
    « Reply #9 on: July 03, 2018, 09:57:13 AM »
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    • The suggestion that women might be better off not being a mother is a sure sign feminism is ingrained.  What is to become of a woman who seems "unfit" to be a mother?  She becomes worldly, and unless she takes some kind of vow of celibacy she will go on to contracept and/or abort, just to protect her place in the world. Trads should never advocate women in the workplace (except in necessity).  It's unnatural and contrary to wisdom in every way.  It is divisive for other women too, because their men have to endure the allure of women in the workplace.  It also risks salvation for the woman who is too selfish to overcome personal obstacles in order to be a good mother. 
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    Re: Trads raising feminist daughters
    « Reply #10 on: July 03, 2018, 09:58:44 AM »
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    • Quote from: Smedley Butler on July 03, 2018, 09:50:33 AM
    You have missed the point.
    Yes a child has free will.
    The problem is that the mothers are not "subtly influenced" they are so indoctrinated by the WORLD that they think it's OKAY.
    It's not okay.
    Raising more feminists is not okay.
    You should be asking yourself why you are okay with your daughter growing up to be a barren worker bee.
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    That is not what you said:
    "If you spent the last 20 years in the home fulfilling God's female role raising your children and they reject motherhood, you have failed!"
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    I do not believe traditional mothers INTEND to rear feminists.  I believe they don't know better and don't have a good leader for a husband.
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    Re: Trads raising feminist daughters
    « Reply #11 on: July 03, 2018, 09:59:37 AM »
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    • What was the point of your sacrifice of years of motherhood if your children do not follow your example of it?

    My girls are taught that motherhood is the highest "job."

    They are not taught to go 
    get an "important" job in the world.
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    Re: Trads raising feminist daughters
    « Reply #12 on: July 03, 2018, 10:00:51 AM »
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    • As a woman , I agree with smedley.  I grew up in novus ordo.  (My mother was poisoned by feminism.)  I was going down the feminist road).  

    Young women these days are going to college and graduating as lesbian atheists.  

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    Re: Trads raising feminist daughters
    « Reply #13 on: July 03, 2018, 10:03:00 AM »
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    • Quote from: TxTrad on July 03, 2018, 09:58:44 AM
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    That is not what you said:
    "If you spent the last 20 years in the home fulfilling God's female role raising your children and they reject motherhood, you have failed!"
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    I do not believe traditional mothers INTEND to rear feminists.  I believe they don't know better and don't have a good leader for a husband.
    Oh, but they DO know better.
    They CANNOT claim they "didn't know better, "
    You CANNOT have sat in the pews of TRAD Churches for 20 years and say you "don't know" what God's role is for women.
    It ain't a physicist. 
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    Re: Trads raising feminist daughters
    « Reply #14 on: July 03, 2018, 10:03:16 AM »
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    • Quote from: Smedley Butler on July 03, 2018, 09:59:37 AM
    What was the point of your sacrifice of years of motherhood if your children do not follow your example of it?

    My girls are taught that motherhood is the highest "job."

    They are not taught to go
    get an "important" job in the world.
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    That is the goal of most traditional Catholic mothers, I believe.  It does not mean the child will accept the example or teachings.  Nor does it mean the mother has "failed".
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