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Re: Trads raising feminist daughters
« Reply #165 on: July 10, 2018, 10:24:05 AM »
I think 13-18 is the MOST important age to protect them.
I agree, but you can't shield and protect them forever... otherwise, you get those Katy Perry types who completely rebel and stuff. 

Re: Trads raising feminist daughters
« Reply #166 on: July 10, 2018, 10:33:07 AM »
I agree, but you can't shield and protect them forever... otherwise, you get those Katy Perry types who completely rebel and stuff.

At the same time, I can think of many things a parent may actually do, in order to protect the virtue of his children. To think that you are powerless on this respect is a defeatist suggestion of the devil.

There are many parents out there who "throw the towel" even before the fight.


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Re: Trads raising feminist daughters
« Reply #167 on: July 10, 2018, 10:47:20 AM »
I honestly don’t see the good in completely sheltering children who are 13-18 or up. The only thing that does is give a sort of... alternative reality.

In fact, one could argue, that this might be the time in which to do a controlled release.  At least during this age they are living at home.  So if they come into contact with various evils (heresies, errors, bad morals of others, etc.) ... you can help guide their decision-making and their approach to dealing with these things.  But if they're completely sheltered and then suddenly leave home at 18 only to see the world's depravity head-on, they've had little guided practice in terms of how to deal with such things.  So, for instance, my oldest daughter ran into an alleged Catholic who held, basically, that the Bible was just a bunch of stories and the miracles in the Bible are made up.  So she told me and my wife about this, and we helped her with the apologetics necessary to debunk that garbage.  She ended up convinced that the person was nothing more than a completely faithless bad-willed idiot.  But what if she had run into this later in life, after she had left home?

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Re: Trads raising feminist daughters
« Reply #168 on: July 10, 2018, 10:59:59 AM »
I agree, but you can't shield and protect them forever... otherwise, you get those Katy Perry types who completely rebel and stuff.

It's an incredibly difficult thing to navigate.  If you beat them down with an iron fist, then many do in fact rebound and rebel and go more crazy in the opposite direction than they would have otherwise.  I have made the decision to make some concessions because I sensed a brewing resentment and rebellion because they couldn't be like their friends (this especially from girls).  Girls are complete lemmings, and slaves to convention; if everyone is doing something, then they can't stand the thought of being considered an outcast, of being socially shunned, and being looked down on.  Boys are less susceptible to this kind of thing.  [And, this by the way, is why girls and women need the guidance of a good man.]  In any case, not to digress, but I made some concessions along the lines of their being able to listen to a bit of pop music and wear a light amount of makeup.  And lest you think that the battle is with "worldly" companions, the problem arose at a Traditional Catholic school, where their Traditional Catholic friends were "doing all these things".  There was even a teacher at the school who raved about how much she liked Katy Perry.  Now, I still have Katy Perry banned, but that's a side issue.  My point is that these bad influences were from Traditional Catholics.  So, it wasn't bad enough that the girls felt like outsiders to the world and to Catholics in general, but that they would have considered us more rigorist even than TRADITIONAL Catholics, and a resentment was starting up.  So it was a no-win situation.  But my prudential judgment was that they would have lashed back and gone wild in the other direction if I didn't let up a little.  It's like with alcohol.  I let my kids have a little.  That prevents some kind of unnatural fascination with it that college kids develop when they first leave home and get to drink (because it's no longer forbidden by their parents) ... and then they make idiots out of themselves with it.

Re: Trads raising feminist daughters
« Reply #169 on: July 10, 2018, 11:20:09 AM »
I think 13-18 is the MOST important age to protect them.
You can’t send naive kids into the world, and hope for the best. Its just not practical... the kids I know who were most protected ended up being the worst human beings I know, and atheists to boot.