Send CathInfo's owner Matthew a gift from his Amazon wish list:
https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/25M2B8RERL1UO

Author Topic: Trads need to be more like the Left  (Read 809 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline forlorn

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 2449
  • Reputation: +964/-1098
  • Gender: Male
Re: Trads need to be more like the Left
« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2020, 01:58:47 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • In the landslide of 1984, the Democrat candidate was from Minnesota. Candidates usually carry their home state; the only recent exception was 2000. (Not including 2016; they couldn't both win NY/.)
    True, but not going red once since 1976 still sets it as very solidly blue. 


    Offline Matthew

    • Mod
    • *****
    • Posts: 31196
    • Reputation: +27112/-494
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Trads need to be more like the Left
    « Reply #16 on: February 20, 2020, 03:35:03 PM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
  • Is trump great on the abortion issue? No he falls short. 
    How so? Then every Republican since Roe vs. Wade falls short. I'd call that BEING TOO PICKY.
    Did you hear yet that Trump was the first president ever to make an appearance at the March for Life?
    No President has been as Pro-Life as Trump has been -- in ACTIONS and words.
    Want to say "thank you"? 
    You can send me a gift from my Amazon wishlist!
    https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/25M2B8RERL1UO

    Paypal donations: matthew@chantcd.com


    Offline Matthew

    • Mod
    • *****
    • Posts: 31196
    • Reputation: +27112/-494
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Trads need to be more like the Left
    « Reply #17 on: February 20, 2020, 03:36:29 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Yes, and you raise a very interesting point about swing states.  Since voting for Trump is a tactical maneuver, what if I live in a solidly Democratic state that has ZERO chance of going for Trump.  What then is wrong with just not voting or writing someone in?  I do live in a swing state (Ohio), so I'll feel the need to vote for Trump.  But if I lived in D.C., for instance, I would not bother to vote (for President) or else I would write Pat Buchanan in.  What's wrong with that?

    I'll tell you what's wrong with it -- the Dems have something to whine about "She won the Popular Vote! Illegitimate president! Abolish the Electoral College!"

    Even if you live in D.C., you should go give one more vote for Donald Trump. Just as a vote for "Pro-life is better than Abortion" if nothing else.

    Think of it as a vote for God's order vs. Satan's order. We all must have a strong opinion there.
    Want to say "thank you"? 
    You can send me a gift from my Amazon wishlist!
    https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/25M2B8RERL1UO

    Paypal donations: matthew@chantcd.com

    Offline CatholicInAmerica

    • Jr. Member
    • **
    • Posts: 356
    • Reputation: +149/-51
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Trads need to be more like the Left
    « Reply #18 on: February 20, 2020, 03:49:49 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • How so? Then every Republican since Roe vs. Wade falls short. I'd call that BEING TOO PICKY.
    Did you hear yet that Trump was the first president ever to make an appearance at the March for Life?
    No President has been as Pro-Life as Trump has been -- in ACTIONS and words.
    I was at the march for life and saw trump speak. Yes Matthew, almost all republicans do fall short because they support abortion in cases of rape and incest. Murder is murder. Catholic teaching is not “too picky”. I am saying that fall short from ideal but that doesn’t mean I wouldn’t vote for them, because I would never vote for a democrat and if a person supports abortion to the extent of a dem they are immediately deemed as untouchable by me. 
    Pope St. Pius X pray for us

    Online Ladislaus

    • Supporter
    • *****
    • Posts: 41893
    • Reputation: +23940/-4344
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Trads need to be more like the Left
    « Reply #19 on: February 20, 2020, 05:48:07 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • I'll tell you what's wrong with it -- the Dems have something to whine about "She won the Popular Vote! Illegitimate president! Abolish the Electoral College!"

    Even if you live in D.C., you should go give one more vote for Donald Trump. Just as a vote for "Pro-life is better than Abortion" if nothing else.

    Think of it as a vote for God's order vs. Satan's order. We all must have a strong opinion there.

    Ah, the Dems will always find SOMEthing to whine about.

    I think Hillary is on her 7th different reason for why she was robbed of the election.


    Offline Caraffa

    • Full Member
    • ***
    • Posts: 989
    • Reputation: +558/-47
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Trads need to be more like the Left
    « Reply #20 on: February 22, 2020, 04:59:19 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Well said!

    A classic case of "The perfect is the enemy of the good."

    Think of it this way: the liberal bastards aren't so picky. They NEVER get discouraged or give up. Even when doomsday arrived (Trump, who spelled doom for the deep state and most evils) they didn't give up: they did everything they could to attack him, slow him down, occupy him with defense, tried multiple times to remove him, constantly produced propaganda to sway the masses against him --

    Why can't the good guys (US) be this tenacious? We're so yellow-bellied and lily-livered. When a Traditional Catholic isn't on the ballot as a viable candidate, we all stay home on Election Day and pray for the Chastisement.

    So many Trads throw up their hands, "Forget about fighting with everything we have, fighting to the last man, doing everything we can to slow/impede/fight the march of satanic evil. If I can't have my perfect candidate I won't vote at all. The country can go to hell for all I care."

    Such pusillanimous cowardice!

    I wish the Left would give up so easily. But they don't. SO WE CAN'T EITHER!!!
    Because time and demographics aren't on our side; The perma-left* (possibly Neo-Communist) rule is around the corner.  I find those who think the Chastisement will come very soon to be too optimistic. Even according to Catholic private revelation, we still have a good ways to go. On the other hand, there are those who think Trump's re-election is almost certain, I have to question in what world those people are living. Many of major signs right now point to Trump losing.

    *Once the US goes perma-left, any possible "right" victories in Europe won't really matter. 
    Pray for me, always.

    Offline Caraffa

    • Full Member
    • ***
    • Posts: 989
    • Reputation: +558/-47
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Trads need to be more like the Left
    « Reply #21 on: February 22, 2020, 05:02:49 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • True, but not going red once since 1976 still sets it as very solidly blue.
    Minnesota has been trending Republican for the last two decades. Trump barely campaigned there and almost won it. 
    Pray for me, always.

    Offline JezusDeKoning

    • Sr. Member
    • ****
    • Posts: 2940
    • Reputation: +1090/-2220
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Trads need to be more like the Left
    « Reply #22 on: February 22, 2020, 05:59:38 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Minnesota has been trending Republican for the last two decades. Trump barely campaigned there and almost won it.
    Broke my Lenten break to post this, and only this:

    Caraffa, you're absolutely right. Minnesota is only solidly blue because of Minneapolis-St. Paul swinging the state. 

    Greater Minnesota is growing, and if the Dems front another candidate that no one likes, Trump will win Minnesota. We'll see in November.
    Remember O most gracious Virgin Mary...


    Offline Viva Cristo Rey

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 16451
    • Reputation: +4864/-1803
    • Gender: Female
    Re: Trads need to be more like the Left
    « Reply #23 on: February 24, 2020, 06:29:01 AM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
  • Broke my Lenten break to post this, and only this:

    Caraffa, you're absolutely right. Minnesota is only solidly blue because of Minneapolis-St. Paul swinging the state.

    Greater Minnesota is growing, and if the Dems front another candidate that no one likes, Trump will win Minnesota. We'll see in November.
    Minnesota and those areas are growing because of the moslems that were relocated there.  A democratic plot for votes. 
    May God bless you and keep you

    Offline Viva Cristo Rey

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 16451
    • Reputation: +4864/-1803
    • Gender: Female
    Re: Trads need to be more like the Left
    « Reply #24 on: February 24, 2020, 06:39:46 AM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
  • Wake up Catholics!  We have to vote for President Trump.  This isn’t Democrats vs Republicans. This is good vs evil.  Things are so bad in USA that the Amish have come out in large numbers to vote for President Trump.  

    The biggest problem in our country is the poorly catechized Catholics of Vatican II and growing number of trads are voting and supporting liberal agendas.  The stupidity coming from Catholics is nauseating.  These same Catholics turned a blind eye to sex abuse of children and now they accept abortion, sodomy, greed, sloth, gluttony, feminism as the norm in society.  Nothing is going to change unless men stop being cowards and confront the evil instead of being led by false shepherds and feminist wives and church ladies.

    May God bless you and keep you

    Offline rum

    • Full Member
    • ***
    • Posts: 1341
    • Reputation: +594/-596
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Trads need to be more like the Left
    « Reply #25 on: February 28, 2020, 11:13:46 AM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
  • Plus, we need to realize that it is very likely that we are all just being played by the true puppet-masters and power brokers (i.e. the Jєωs).

    I reluctantly voted for Trump in 2016 based on these considerations.  But to try to get us to be enthusiastic about it, that's asking too much, and in fact it's asking more than a good Catholic can do.  This doesn't mean one should not actively work to help him get elected.  That's OK.  But to pretend that this guy is a new Pat Buchanan?

    I'm not being played by Jєωs. I voted for Trump in 2016 for some of his policy positions, some of which I thought he would deliver on once taking power. And he has delivered on some issues, though I haven't seen him do much about enforcing US sovereignty at the southern border, which is a big reason he got elected.

    I had no doubt that he ultimately represents the interests of the Jєωιѕн establishment, which is the establishment. Elections are a matter of choosing which member of the Jєωιѕн establishment one prefers in office.

    Pat Buchanan represents the interests of the Jєωιѕн establishment as well. He wouldn't be in the public eye if he wasn't considered kosher. But I would still vote for him.

    I don't know the last time that non-Jєωιѕн Americans truly ran this country, but it hasn't been for a while. Some would say Jєωs have controlled this country since the creation of the Federal Reserve.
    Some would have people believe that I'm a deceiver because I've used various handles on different Catholic forums. They only know this because I've always offered such information, unprompted. Various troll accounts on FE. Ben on SuscipeDomine. Patches on ABLF 1.0 and TeDeum. GuitarPlucker, Busillis, HatchC, and Rum on Cathinfo.


    Offline Parasitic Eww

    • Newbie
    • *
    • Posts: 105
    • Reputation: +45/-71
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Trads need to be more like the Left
    « Reply #26 on: February 28, 2020, 12:03:03 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!1
  • Trump hasn't enforced the rule of law. He never went after Hillary, Obama, Holder, Comey, et al, despite the mountains of evidence of their ѕєdιтισn, treason, & financial fraud. He promised to go after Hillary, but he never did...
    When the Power Brokers are above the rule of law, there is no true freedom in our country.

    Offline SimpleMan

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 4383
    • Reputation: +1629/-194
    • Gender: Male
    Re: Trads need to be more like the Left
    « Reply #27 on: March 15, 2020, 06:17:25 AM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • I'll tell you what's wrong with it -- the Dems have something to whine about "She won the Popular Vote! Illegitimate president! Abolish the Electoral College!"

    Even if you live in D.C., you should go give one more vote for Donald Trump. Just as a vote for "Pro-life is better than Abortion" if nothing else.

    Think of it as a vote for God's order vs. Satan's order. We all must have a strong opinion there.
    That is precisely why I intend to vote for Trump.  I live in a "safe red" state and Trump will win it, no matter what.  However, as you point out, Democrats grieve their hearts to death over the popular vote, simply because, as things have turned out, probably less than a dozen largely rural, conservative states have an outsize effect upon the election, while liberals tend to cluster in cities that influence their state's election in only a few states.  There are plenty of conservatives in California, but it doesn't matter, because they are outnumbered.  Ditto for New York State.  Every vote for Trump is one more vote towards giving him a popular vote majority, and thus de-gutting one of their central tenets.  If, hypothetically, the set-up of the electoral college favored them, you wouldn't hear a peep uttered by them against it.

    The Constitution, as it was originally written, makes no provision whatsoever for Presidential elections or the popular vote.  The original template, so to speak, was for state legislatures to select a slate of electors (the same way they were to select Senators).  Those electors would be solons of a sort, wise men who would then seek to select a president.  If they failed, and it was foreseen that they might, then the Federal Senate and House of Representatives would step in and select the president and vice president respectively.  The Constitution does not provide for parties either.  Things have morphed into something entirely different, and liberals and other "progressives" want everything to be done by popular vote.  This is even beyond what most liberal European democracies do --- they have complicated systems of proportional representation which then select prime ministers without the voters having any direct say-so either.