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Offline Last Tradhican

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Re: Trads Losing Their Children to the World
« Reply #30 on: November 03, 2018, 05:44:51 PM »
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    • Quote from: Vintagewife3 on November 03, 2018, 01:06:26 PM
    I mean I could barely apply eyeliner at 10, and there are 10 year olds with creased eyeshadow in perfect form.
    I just wanted to say I think it’s amazing you see/understand this for your daughters. They are absolutely blessed to have such an understanding dad!
    I doubt his 10 year old's are wearing makeup. A 10 year old girl should not be wearing makeup. My oldest daughter was just allowed to wear light makeup at 16.
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    « Reply #31 on: November 03, 2018, 05:59:23 PM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on November 03, 2018, 05:40:24 PM
    What does that have to do with what I wrote in regard to your posting? Where did you see me write that I told my girls that they are not loved and wanted and that they are repulsive?

    You basically dismissed my comments that girls are in a tough spot ... with even Traditional Catholic men seeking girls primarily for their looks, while other Traditional Catholics denounce them as prostitutes if they try to enhance their appearance a little for makeup ... that they're getting mixed signals ... with the comment that they need to suck it up, since some people in the world can't even find food.  I wouldn't respond to my girls that way if they told me they were upset at being considered unattractive or even repulsive on account of their acne.
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    Re: Trads Losing Their Children to the World
    « Reply #32 on: November 03, 2018, 06:11:35 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on November 03, 2018, 05:59:23 PM
     I wouldn't respond to my girls that way if they told me they were upset at being considered unattractive or even repulsive on account of their acne.
    Neither would I. 
    Ask questions before you make comments like that.
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    Re: Trads Losing Their Children to the World
    « Reply #33 on: November 03, 2018, 06:15:34 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on November 02, 2018, 02:11:40 PM
    I saw a video made by a poor lady.  She showed herself without makeup ... with a lot of acne.  She put the picture somewhere on social media, and the comments where absolutely horrible ... just gut-wrenchingly cruel.  "What's wrong with your face?  You're repulsive." etc. etc.  Then she put on makeup.  It started with people telling her how beautiful she was, but then ended up with people denouncing her for being "fake" and "committing fraud".
    She should not have put the picture in social media. 
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    Re: Trads Losing Their Children to the World
    « Reply #34 on: November 05, 2018, 07:54:37 AM »
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    • From what I see many trad families on eastcoast are living double lives.   Holy and innocent on Sunday's and holy days and hell raisers during week. 
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    « Reply #35 on: November 05, 2018, 07:56:13 AM »
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    • I'm still trying to figure out why so many trad cats marry non Christian?
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    Re: Trads Losing Their Children to the World
    « Reply #36 on: November 05, 2018, 03:33:41 PM »
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    • Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey on November 05, 2018, 07:56:13 AM
    I'm still trying to figure out why so many trad cats marry non Christian?
    Slim Pickens!  In my old chapel I had a choice of three men, one was 32 years my senior and unemployed.  The other two were closer in age but both physically and mentally challenged.  That's why I'm a spinster.
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    Re: Trads Losing Their Children to the World
    « Reply #37 on: November 05, 2018, 08:16:44 PM »
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    • Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey on November 05, 2018, 07:56:13 AM
    I'm still trying to figure out why so many trad cats marry non Christian?
    When I came back to the Church at 40, all I did was stay focused on learning the faith and doing God's will in everything. As far as marriage, the thought didn't come into my mind, I was too busy learning the faith. My mother told me I'd never meet anyone living like I was living my life; work, exercise, studying the faith, and going to a small chapel with no young girls. I told her that I was doing my job, and that I'd let God sort out the rest. One day my future wife showed up, a trad Catholic.  

    Do your job and let God sort out the rest.  Trust in Him and do not compromise. 
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    Re: Trads Losing Their Children to the World
    « Reply #38 on: November 06, 2018, 01:12:19 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on November 03, 2018, 02:34:36 PM
    More than even security, the deepest need people have, especially children growing up, is to feel loved and wanted.  And girls have the need more than boys.  What do you think it would do to a girl to be constantly told she's repulsive?  At some point, it would be easy for her to question whether anyone, including God, could love someone like her.
    I doubt there are literally multiple people telling any young lady that she's repulsive. There might be an incident from a particularly rude individual, but most likely it's only HER telling herself that she needs to look differently.
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    I agree with your premise that girls especially need to feel loved and wanted, but would not be so quick to concede that a little makeup is what will best address those needs.
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    Re: Trads Losing Their Children to the World
    « Reply #39 on: November 06, 2018, 07:55:20 AM »
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    • Quote from: MaterDominici on November 06, 2018, 01:12:19 AM
    I doubt there are literally multiple people telling any young lady that she's repulsive.

    You doubt wrong.  Perhaps your daughters don't interact as much with other girls since you're out on a relatively-remote property.  Kids are more vicious than ever these days.
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    Re: Trads Losing Their Children to the World
    « Reply #40 on: November 06, 2018, 07:58:19 AM »
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    • Quote from: MaterDominici on November 06, 2018, 01:12:19 AM
    I agree with your premise that girls especially need to feel loved and wanted, but would not be so quick to concede that a little makeup is what will best address those needs.

    Have you or your daughters ever had serious acne problems?  Do you know what that's like?  Do you know much much a little makeup could help that?

    I reject as nonsense this sanctimonious view that many Traditional Catholics have that they have to dress their daughters (notice that this is usually limited to the girls) in the manner of "Little House on the Prairie" and refuse to let them look pretty and feminine.
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    Re: Trads Losing Their Children to the World
    « Reply #41 on: November 06, 2018, 12:19:23 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on November 06, 2018, 07:58:19 AM
    Have you or your daughters ever had serious acne problems?  Do you know what that's like?  Do you know much much a little makeup could help that?

    I reject as nonsense this sanctimonious view that many Traditional Catholics have that they have to dress their daughters (notice that this is usually limited to the girls) in the manner of "Little House on the Prairie" and refuse to let them look pretty and feminine.
    Agreed.
    Nothing worse than Trads in their Little House on the Prairie costumes.
    Michael Matt once wrote they make Catholicism look like hell on earth.
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    Re: Trads Losing Their Children to the World
    « Reply #42 on: November 06, 2018, 12:22:02 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on November 06, 2018, 07:58:19 AM
    Have you or your daughters ever had serious acne problems?  Do you know what that's like?  Do you know much much a little makeup could help that?

    I reject as nonsense this sanctimonious view that many Traditional Catholics have that they have to dress their daughters (notice that this is usually limited to the girls) in the manner of "Little House on the Prairie" and refuse to let them look pretty and feminine.
    They're not old enough, but I've had acne my entire life and have never worn makeup or been told by anyone that I'm repulsive.
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    Clothing is necessary and we wear a wide variety of it, but makeup is not something that's the norm in our immediate or extended family. There are exceptions, of course, but it's not a given that being female means you must "put your face on" before engaging with the outside world.
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    Re: Trads Losing Their Children to the World
    « Reply #43 on: November 06, 2018, 12:30:26 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on November 06, 2018, 07:55:20 AM
    You doubt wrong.  Perhaps your daughters don't interact as much with other girls since you're out on a relatively-remote property.  Kids are more vicious than ever these days.
    We're not that remote. My older daughters are out 3x per week for extracurricular activities among other kids. We've not yet dealt with any even remotely rude children or parents. But, along those same lines, I've never had anyone make a rude comment about the size of my family. So, perhaps it's a southern vs. northern thing or a small town vs. big city thing. 
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    Re: Trads Losing Their Children to the World
    « Reply #44 on: November 06, 2018, 12:33:21 PM »
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    • Quote from: MaterDominici on November 06, 2018, 12:30:26 PM
    But, along those same lines, I've never had anyone make a rude comment about the size of my family.

    Yes, my wife and I get the snide comments regularly about this.  When you get out, is it in homeschooling groups?  People there tend to have larger families themselves.
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