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Re: Trads and feminism
« Reply #25 on: July 02, 2018, 03:02:18 PM »
Good point.  The dictionary definition of feminism is usually something like "the advocacy of women's rights on the basis of the equality of the sexes" and that is not what it really is.

Feminism is a variation of Marxism which replaces class warfare between the bourgeois and proletariat with a war between men and women.  Judgments are based on what class people belong to rather than their actions as individuals.

This is far more insidious than merely saying that the sexes are equal.  There are even some senses in which it is true to say that the sexes are equal, as in, men and women are equal in dignity or equal in their need for salvation through Christ. (Of course, husband and wife are NOT equal in authority within marriage.)
Great points! The only thing I would add is that cultural Marxism also seeks to destroy both the Church and the Family. Gender neutrality is Feminism 2.0 -- the next step in their plan to further social chaos.

Re: Trads and feminism
« Reply #26 on: July 02, 2018, 03:18:42 PM »
Great points! The only thing I would add is that cultural Marxism also seeks to destroy both the Church and the Family. Gender neutrality is Feminism 2.0 -- the next step in their plan to further social chaos.

In case you didn't know, State marriage licenses are inherently Marxist.

Also, to oppose the husband as the sole authority on what is equitable within the family and between spouses, is to embrace Marxist ideals. The sneaky ones posture with "Catholic piety" which is really an infusing of "equality" into the marriage so the wife has as much determination over the money, assets & wealth in the household than the husband. They proceed to call this, "husbands loving, honoring & protecting their wives". Finally, they LARP about being "Catholic Monarchists" and "supporters of patriarchy", both of which are intrinsically opposite to equality and women having as much control over the financial resources as the husband.


Re: Trads and feminism
« Reply #27 on: July 02, 2018, 04:03:12 PM »
In case you didn't know, State marriage licenses are inherently Marxist.

Also, to oppose the husband as the sole authority on what is equitable within the family and between spouses, is to embrace Marxist ideals. The sneaky ones posture with "Catholic piety" which is really an infusing of "equality" into the marriage so the wife has as much determination over the money, assets & wealth in the household than the husband. They proceed to call this, "husbands loving, honoring & protecting their wives". Finally, they LARP about being "Catholic Monarchists" and "supporters of patriarchy", both of which are intrinsically opposite to equality and women having as much control over the financial resources as the husband.
So, pretty much if I say anything about the money that makes me a feminist? 

Re: Trads and feminism
« Reply #28 on: July 02, 2018, 04:36:38 PM »
There have been a whole bunch of threads about women and marriage lately and I am wondering if we are working from the same underlying assumptions.  I am going to put out a bunch of propositions to see whether people agree or not.

1. Feminism is evil and pervasive throughout Western society.

2. Feminism pits men and women against each other.

3. Feminism promotes a false understanding of men's and women's roles in marriage and in society.

4. Trads, even those who disagree with feminism, are subtly influenced by it.

5. Women need to be alert to feminism within ourselves and constantly fighting against it.
Broadly I would agree although I would probably stress the damage caused by what is an inherently evil and unGodly ideology to both men, women and especially girls. 

Re: Trads and feminism
« Reply #29 on: July 02, 2018, 06:48:48 PM »
Practicing virtue is only PART of the solution.  Feminism is a religious AND SOCIAL problem.

2.  Living alone or outside of the parents house, if not married (assuming your parents are alive).  This just isn't natural, has never been and never will be.  It is a sign of independence and a wanting to be free of authority, which women are not designed to have, nor are they able to handle.

I can't wait for the downvotes!!
Because feminism is a religious problem, it cannot help but affect all aspects of life.  They feed into each other and maintain a disordered society.  A woman may not be a feminist at heart, or desire to act like a feminist, but unless she is a cloistered nun in a traditional order, she is pretty much forced to act in a feminist manner in some respects to survive.  
I have no desire to be a feminist, however, I live in "violation" of your second precept, and have done so since age 18.  Why?  I grew up in a marginally novus ordo Catholic home, one that held to high moral standards in many areas, but one tainted by Americanism.  When the children, male or female, turned 18, they were expected to leave the nest.  The economic conditions at that time were favorable to becoming self-supporting with a job requiring only high school, sometimes less.  
I struggled my way through to two Master's degrees on full-time + part-time jobs, always assuming I'd eventually get married.  That never happened, so here I am at age 60 working a full-time job and moonlighting at odd jobs to survive, pretty much as I have since my mid-twenties.  My siblings and extended family abandoned Church, religion, morality decades ago.  There is nobody with whom I could live--or would want to live, even if offered!  My parents are living but I cannot live with them since they require medical care I'm incapable of providing, either personally or financially.  
So, yes, sometimes a woman has no choice but to "man-up" to take care of herself and protect her virtue.  There is no man to do it.
As for pants and men's clothes, there are none in my wardrobe.
Yes, I do enjoy intellectual endeavors, but getting into hysterical arguments over them?  No.  It seems to me there are as many men as women who can't admit they're wrong.  Too bad, because these people aren't apt to learn anything, not even from their mistakes.  Is this feminism or plain old pride?
No reason to down-thumb you.  You're not rude, one who resorts to name-calling, illogic, etc.