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  • With a few exceptions, traditional Catholics tend to have less money per capita than Novus Ordo Catholics. Perhaps it is because the Novus Ordo is more embracing of the modern world, and doesn't require separation from it?

    It's a phenomenon I've observed countless times, and I've been a traditional Catholic my whole life. Even seminary professors brought up the topic -- how many traditional Catholic men were only into sports, hunting and fishing, etc. and didn't aspire to a "profession" like psychology, lawyer, accountant, doctor, professor, etc.

    Perhaps it's because a traditional Catholic knows instinctively how apart he is from the world, and how hard it is to be a faithful Catholic and live among pagans.

    And some careers, like psychologist, would be very difficult to maintain without compromising one's morals. Psychologists are instructed -- sometimes with the full force of law -- to tell sodomites that nothing is wrong with their behavior.

    I'm sure lawyers would have similar problems, although a lawyer CAN specialize in a safer field, whatever he chooses -- divorce lawyer is CERTAINLY not an option!

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    Traditional Catholics are poorer than Novus Ordo counterparts
    « Reply #1 on: May 12, 2010, 11:29:36 PM »
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  • Traditional Roman Catholics may not be rich in money.
    They are rich in FAITH. That what counts.


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    Traditional Catholics are poorer than Novus Ordo counterparts
    « Reply #2 on: May 13, 2010, 08:21:55 AM »
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  • According to St. Louis de Montfort the apostles of the end times are Our Lady's heel.  Very humble.  Seems like poverty fits this.
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    Traditional Catholics are poorer than Novus Ordo counterparts
    « Reply #3 on: May 13, 2010, 08:34:40 AM »
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  • Novus ordo Catholics have two children and both parents often pull in a nice income. Trad Catholics have 8 children and the father pulls in an income. Easy answer. The novus ordos have much more income due to the fact that they have two salaries and far less children to pay for.

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    Traditional Catholics are poorer than Novus Ordo counterparts
    « Reply #4 on: May 13, 2010, 10:01:04 AM »
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  • Quote from: sedetrad
    Novus ordo Catholics have two children and both parents often pull in a nice income. Trad Catholics have 8 children and the father pulls in an income. Easy answer. The novus ordos have much more income due to the fact that they have two salaries and far less children to pay for.


    well said and true, but the question should be asked is this=what really is wealth? money in the bank? or land, children, faith, graces??

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    « Reply #5 on: May 13, 2010, 11:06:16 AM »
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  • Well it's not money in the bank or anywhere else.  That's just a medium of exchange.   True wealth is concrete.  Job was wealthy and when his wealth was taken, what went?
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    « Reply #6 on: May 13, 2010, 12:34:58 PM »
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    Well it's not money in the bank or anywhere else.  That's just a medium of exchange.


     :applause:
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    « Reply #7 on: May 13, 2010, 08:27:34 PM »
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  • No fair! If we are the True Jews, why dont we have any dough?  :laugh1:

    Money doesnt equal wealth.

    You may be king you may posses the world and it's gold.
    But gold wont bring you happiness when your growin old.
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    « Reply #8 on: May 13, 2010, 11:32:29 PM »
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  • Quote from: sedetrad
    Novus ordo Catholics have two children and both parents often pull in a nice income. Trad Catholics have 8 children and the father pulls in an income. Easy answer. The novus ordos have much more income due to the fact that they have two salaries and far less children to pay for.


      A sibling is the best thing a parent can give to a child. A life long friend and companion and the best playmate in the days of childhood!
       The love of husband and wife for another is a great source of feeling warm and secure in this world. If you love your child love his mother.
      A trad child is the richest child on earth, a kiss from mom or dad is the greatest treasure for any little heart.
      How great is having a kind stay at home mum who respects your father with the most sincere emotions!

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    « Reply #9 on: May 14, 2010, 05:13:04 AM »
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  • True enough. I noticed that when my husband converted to the Catholic Faith (Novus Ordo then) things went BOOM. Before that we we very comfortable. My mortgage was very low. As soon as he accepted the Dogmas of the Faith it all went South. The closer you get to Christ in this world the harder it  gets for us on earth.

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    « Reply #10 on: May 14, 2010, 05:25:38 AM »
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  •    But catholics don't have to worry about so many things that exist in pagan households, nor do they have pagan issues to pay for. To make it clear: the water bill is very high if one has a ceremonial religion requiring him to bath frequently and ritualy after any natural activity, before any prayer etc. So being catholic is good for your water bill.
       A trad wife too, won't have to nag her husband for more money because she is not bound to practice "the art of keeping men at home". She has no fear of a co-wife.
       A Trad catholic child is idealy breastfed and well cared for by his parents. So he is not expensive. :baby:


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    « Reply #11 on: May 14, 2010, 05:28:19 AM »
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  • Quote from: Belloc
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    Novus ordo Catholics have two children and both parents often pull in a nice income. Trad Catholics have 8 children and the father pulls in an income. Easy answer. The novus ordos have much more income due to the fact that they have two salaries and far less children to pay for.


    well said and true, but the question should be asked is this=what really is wealth? money in the bank? or land, children, faith, graces??



    .....and a lonely child at home, waiting the career mom to return.....

    Being a divorce lawyer is a horrible job. There is a family court near us. just seeing so many depressed people, wailing children and doomed families is heartrending. I try to close my eyes and not look when passing.

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    « Reply #12 on: May 14, 2010, 07:14:53 AM »
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    Novus ordo Catholics have two children and both parents often pull in a nice income. Trad Catholics have 8 children and the father pulls in an income. Easy answer. The novus ordos have much more income due to the fact that they have two salaries and far less children to pay for.


    well said and true, but the question should be asked is this=what really is wealth? money in the bank? or land, children, faith, graces??



    .....and a lonely child at home, waiting the career mom to return.....

    Being a divorce lawyer is a horrible job. There is a family court near us. just seeing so many depressed people, wailing children and doomed families is heartrending. I try to close my eyes and not look when passing.


    how does Persia deal with divorce? how does it square in treatment vs Koran,etc?
    Proud "European American" and prouder, still, Catholic

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    « Reply #13 on: May 15, 2010, 12:11:49 AM »
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  •    It is allowed here, but one must have good reasons or it will take much more tme.
      canonically, there are four kinds of divorce. a man has to give "the marriage portion" or he can't divorce his wife.
      A marriage portion is the amount of money agreed upon and mentioned in one's marriage formula.
      A wife can ask for it any time (not just for divorce) and the husband is bound to pay it when she wants. But when they want a divorce the law and the court have to make sure that the man pays it. Otherwise one of three things happen. 1)the woman forgets about it, 2)the man agrees to pay it graduly, 3)the man goes to prison.
      Many families insist on large amount of marriage portions, in order to guarantee that the son-in -law won't leave their daughter.

     

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