Author Topic: Trad Women Who Wear Short Shorts Bikinis (Read 16122 times)

bowler · « **on:** October 17, 2012, 05:46:45 PM »

Is it not a mortal sin for a Catholic woman to wear short shorts in public, and to wear a bikini or one piece bathing suit at the beach?

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Is it not a mortal sin for a woman to wear tight fitting jeans?

bowler · « **Reply #1 on:** October 17, 2012, 05:55:15 PM »

I posted a "conservative" bathing suit. There's no short shorts pictures that would be proper to post.

Here's "conservative" tight jeans picture:

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s2srea · « **Reply #2 on:** October 17, 2012, 06:03:37 PM »

bernadette · « **Reply #3 on:** October 17, 2012, 06:37:39 PM »

Catholic Samurai · « **Reply #4 on:** October 17, 2012, 06:44:54 PM »

Why the Hades are you posting this in this subforum?

bowler · « **Reply #5 on:** October 17, 2012, 06:46:52 PM »

Quote from: Catholic Samurai

Why the Hades are you posting this in this subforum?

Because it involves SSPX women who wear these clothes normally, and only dress modestly for mass. This is an SSPX issue, no?

Catholic Samurai · « **Reply #6 on:** October 17, 2012, 06:50:00 PM »

Concerning it's members, not it's clergy.

This discussion is more suited to the Modern World subforum.

MaterDominici · « **Reply #7 on:** October 17, 2012, 06:50:46 PM »

Quote from: bowler

Quote from: Catholic Samurai
Why the Hades are you posting this in this subforum?

Because it involves SSPX women who wear these clothes normally, and only dress modestly for mass. This is an SSPX issue, no?

I don't think it would have much bearing on whether or not the SSPX makes a deal with Rome, so I'm moving it. (hint: try and post in the next minute or so and you'll likely encounter difficulties)

Jaynek · « **Reply #8 on:** October 17, 2012, 07:00:20 PM »

If these clothes are not appropriate for women to wear, then why is it appropriate to post pictures of women wearing these clothes?

Telesphorus · « **Reply #9 on:** October 17, 2012, 07:00:49 PM »

If you think the dress is immodest, why did you post pictures?

As Father Chazal said, this is a matter of liberalization.

He pointed out that many of the French women think the American women are "too modest."

Now why would they be so bold to venture that in front of a priest, unless liberal priests are encouraging them in it?

When judging what is happening to the SSPX look at deeds, not words.

Sometimes they say things that give insight into what they're really thinking, but if we want to judge where they are headed, it's best to look at their deeds. Their deeds are difficult to interpret charitably, and that's an understatement.

Sigismund · « **Reply #10 on:** October 17, 2012, 07:11:19 PM »

Quote from: Jaynek

If these clothes are not appropriate for women to wear, then why is it appropriate to post pictures of women wearing these clothes?

Pretty simple question, with a simple answer :smile:.

bowler · « **Reply #11 on:** October 17, 2012, 07:29:12 PM »

Quote from: Sigismund

Quote from: Jaynek
If these clothes are not appropriate for women to wear, then why is it appropriate to post pictures of women wearing these clothes?

Pretty simple question, with a simple answer :smile:.

I specifically posted only two "conservative" examples because I think that the vast majority of trads believe that wearing a bikini is inappropiate, but I also think that a large group might think that the clothes that I posted are ok.

I'm saying that it is a mortal sin to wear the clothes that I posted. It is a sin for the women who wear them. For the men who have to see this, well, they see it in the word every, so they are practiced in not letting it sink in.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #12 on:** October 17, 2012, 07:50:34 PM »

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For the men who have to see this, well, they see it in the word every, so they are practiced in not letting it sink in.

That may be, but in posting the pictures, you very greatly undercut your credibility. If you think it's mortally sinful to dress that way, because of the way teenage boys or the overly sensitive might react to it, then it stands to reason you'd be afraid to post pictures of it.

Women shouldn't dress that way. That's clear. That's what Trads should practice.

Arguing whether or not it's a mortal sin really shouldn't matter. Even if it were only a venial sin, they absolutely should be ashamed to dress that way.

Just as they should absolutely be ashamed of being "venially" intoxicated.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #13 on:** October 17, 2012, 07:53:20 PM »

Most moral theologians would say stealing $5, or telling a "white lie", are venial sins.

Now I would hope all trads would be ashamed of doing those things.

Sede Catholic · « **Reply #14 on:** October 17, 2012, 09:21:22 PM »

There are guidelines for Catholic women with regard to modest clothing.

Essentially, it involves keeping to the standards of modesty that were the norm for Catholic women up until the twentieth century.

As well as the length, women need to make sure that skirts (and also other clothing) are not "figure-hugging".
In other words, the clothing should not highlight the woman's figure, but should obscure the woman's figure.

Alls this is explained in a very clear way in the link which I provided on another thread.

I advise women to print this out and take it with them when they are shopping for clothes.

Here it is again:

This link provides information for Catholic women who want to know how to dress properly:

http://www.salvemariaregina.info/Modesty.html

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1. "Marylike" means modesty without compromise -- "like Mary," Christ's pure and spotless Mother.
2. Marylike dresses have sleeves extending to the wrists; and skirts reaching the ankles.
3. Marylike dresses require full and loose coverage for the bodice, chest, shoulders, and back; the cut-out about the neck must not exceed "two fingers breadth under the pit of the throat" and a similar breadth around the back of the neck.
4. Marylike dresses also do not admit as modest coverage transparent fabrics -- laces, nets, organdy, nylons, etc. -- unless sufficient backing is added. Fabrics such as laces, nets, organdy may be moderately used as trimmings only.
5. Marylike dresses avoid the improper use of flesh-colored fabrics.
6. Marylike dresses conceal rather than reveal the figure of the wearer; they do not emphasize, unduly, parts of the body.
7. Marylike dresses provide full coverage, even after jacket, cape or stole are removed.
8. Marylike fashions are designed to conceal as much of the body as possible, rather than reveal. This would automatically eliminate such fashions as slacks, jeans, shorts, culottes, tight sweaters, sheer blouses, and sleeveless dresses; etc. The Marylike standards are a guide to instil a "sense of modesty." A girl or woman who follows these, and looks up to Mary as her ideal and model, will have no problem with modesty in dress. She will not be an occasion of sin or source of embarrassment or shame to others. The standard set by the Cardinal Vicar of Pope Pius XI (quoted above) is meant to delineate between "decent" and indecent; it would be sinful to wear clothes which "cannot be called decent." We expect that members of the Fatima Crusade, who are resolved to make reparation for the sins of the world -- especially of immodest and impurity, will do far more than the minimum. They will truly strive to imitate the Blessed Virgin Mary in the virtue of modesty. Keep this guide with you when buying clothes. Make sure that you purchase or make only garments which meet the Marylike Standards.

"Be Marylike by being modest -- be modest by being Marylike."

There are places where you can buy entirely modest, yet also nice looking clothes.

I intend to post a list of these places on CathInfo.