Well Im hoping my daughters once they graduate spend some time at home. Learning more about the household duties, gardening , sewing, finances. I would love for them to take a pilgimage in fact my husband recomended that it should be done in their teenage years and he would take two kids at a time male and or female.

I loved working at mc donalds for a bit that was great experience. As far as college goes I love trade school of some sort its more of a short term course and usually more hands on.

Education happens everywhere all of the time and its great to have some sort of back up education especially for women. Not because we fear the future or God cant provide but because God gives us gifts and inclinations and we should follow these promptings. Of course a little common sense and discernment goes a long way. Having a good relationship with a trad priest and your parents or close relative is a must.

The young sometimes make misinformed decisions.

Your right though most women especially Godly Women their calling is to grow and nuture families and God definetly gives us the desire to look for a mate. Motherhood is a natural and holy vocation and much needed in todays society. What a blessing to become one.

As a mother there aint much that compares to a newborn cradled in your arms. The sweetness, innocence, and vitality of life is wonderful.

Besides those who reproduce rule the world. At the end of the day I think God values life a little more than education. Doesnt he know everything anyways?

The pressure to be educated and to be able to provide is more on the male side anyhow. Its funny though how many poor educated people there are (student loans, over qualified etc) vs the hard working moral person with no or little education.


Your friendly canadian :farmer:

I understand that some people have a hard time studying on their own, so they need to go to a formal school/college setting to learn. But I certainly would worry about a person who ISN'T learning all the time.

Likewise, most people need to "go to work" outside the home, and have a set schedule, managers looking over their shoulders, etc. But I often wonder how hard-working or disciplined a person really is if they can't do work on their own. After all, there are no managers or schedules making you do your household duties back at home.

Can a man be faithful to his at-home duties (house maintenance, heavy chores, vehicle maintenance, lawn mowing, etc) if he NEEDS that manager to keep him working during his workweek? Or is he basically undisciplined, and basically requires his wife to nag him to get him to do anything?

Some food for thought.

wow mathew is it really 5:20am its only 9:20 here. In answer to your question neither me nor my husband has had a full time job since marriage. Its been great. I find that we are working all the time but not always structured. It depends alot on the weather. In the spring summer fall lots of gardening , building, and in the winter income tax and homeschooling and reading.

IF women nag its cause its a learned bad habit. Just a normal conversation usually works. A head for finances usually works and healthy balance and of course Gods graces

|your friendly canadian :farmer:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't nuns go to college to receive teaching degrees?  And, in years past, didn't nursing nuns go to college to receive nursing degrees?

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't nuns go to college to receive teaching degrees?  And, in years past, didn't nursing nuns go to college to receive nursing degrees?

To modern coeducation colleges?

I don't know, that's why I asked.  Are there any all women colleges left where nuns who need teaching degrees can go? Does anyone know where nuns go to college?

It is possible to get a number of very practical degrees online.

Pere Joseph,

 Why is it "repellant" for a widow to marry again?  St. Paul says it is better not to, but he hardly seem repulsed by the notion.

Well, I think "repulsed" and "repulsive" have a much stronger negative connotation than the word "repellent," which is why I used the latter word.  I know that in traditional Mediterranean societies, there was a stigma against re-marriage.  Virtuous women were proud to be "univira," only having been with one man and been faithful to him and his memory, wearing the black of mourning for the rest of their lives.  I find this tradition to be incredibly beautiful and expressive of a certain purity of heart for which I feel uncomfortable suggesting substitutes.  I do not think that re-marriage is sinful or even disgusting, per se, and I understand that it is advisable and/or necessary in certain situations.  That being said, I agree with the ancient custom and think that it should only be strayed from with great reluctance and an understanding that one is, for whatever exigency or reason, following the lesser course.  These women should be highly praised for their chaste devotion to their late husband's memory, not treated like they are engaging in some personal preference that a reasonable man might find excessive.

My mother, born 1918, told me that her father went back to school at the age of 26 in order to become a teacher. From this I understand that he completed his high school but not college, and definitely not University. He then ran one-teacher country schools. His classes must have had a preponderance of his own children, as eventually he had twelve.

He was a born teacher. I remember him teaching me at a very young age how to spell Constantinople. He made it a rhythmic fun thing to do. My brother claims that I taught him to read before he entered school though I have no memory of doing so.

Until fairly recently, Italian teacher training was done in secondary school. Schools were divided into sections and the students were directed to the appropriate section which dealt with subjects suited to their skills and potential.