Author Topic: Trad. Catholic Singles (Read 18180 times)

Mithrandylan · « **Reply #15 on:** March 11, 2013, 12:53:14 PM »

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Probably not the most ideal but I think my best bet would be to hopefully find a stable Novus Ordo girl and win her over to myself and tradition. I don't see any solutions otherwise. Oh well...

I wouldn't say that if I were you.

I would sign up for that sedevacantist singles site myself if I were a young single man. At least you know the girl will be spiritually correct!

A trad girl is worth her weight in diamonds!

Check and see if there is an SSPX chapel near you.

Agree.

Why would you seek to marry a NO and not a sedevacantist? That doesn't make any sense.

The real faith changes people. It is possible that after this NO girl converts, that she seeks a vocation or perhaps no longer wants to marry you.

And besides that, you've got two things going on. On the one hand you're trying to woo a female, on the other hand you're trying to cause a conversion.

I don't recall the missionaries marrying up with the people they converted. It doesn't usually work that way.

snowball · « **Reply #16 on:** March 11, 2013, 02:46:21 PM »

I'm a single guy who is looking for a Trad non-Sede
wife. Applicants may PM me. :dancing-banana: :chef: :guitar: :detective:

PenitentWoman · « **Reply #17 on:** March 12, 2013, 08:21:15 PM »

Quote from: Mithrandylan

Quote from: Capt McQuigg
Quote from: eddiearent
Probably not the most ideal but I think my best bet would be to hopefully find a stable Novus Ordo girl and win her over to myself and tradition. I don't see any solutions otherwise. Oh well...

I wouldn't say that if I were you.

I would sign up for that sedevacantist singles site myself if I were a young single man. At least you know the girl will be spiritually correct!

A trad girl is worth her weight in diamonds!

Check and see if there is an SSPX chapel near you.

Agree.

Why would you seek to marry a NO and not a sedevacantist? That doesn't make any sense.

The real faith changes people. It is possible that after this NO girl converts, that she seeks a vocation or perhaps no longer wants to marry you.

And besides that, you've got two things going on. On the one hand you're trying to woo a female, on the other hand you're trying to cause a conversion.

I don't recall the missionaries marrying up with the people they converted. It doesn't usually work that way.

Is convert the correct word?

Many Catholics are simply unaware of traditionalism, and/or do not have easy access to the TLM.

Mithrandylan · « **Reply #18 on:** March 12, 2013, 08:31:38 PM »

Perhaps, but I can't think of a better word.

I was raised in Tradition and fell away, and reverted. When my wife converted, she converted straight to Tradition. I suppose we should ask former NO Catholics if they think they've converted to Tradition.

For many NO Catholics, it really will be a conversion. Whether or not it's applicable in a particular case is a different question, perhaps it wouldn't always be so.

MaterDominici · « **Reply #19 on:** March 12, 2013, 08:53:06 PM »

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Is convert the correct word?

Many Catholics are simply unaware of traditionalism, and/or do not have easy access to the TLM.

While it's not the most common use of the word, it is correct. Convert simply means turning, in this case, toward God.

I was once a few days ahead of a N.O. silent retreat and one of the religious giving the retreat said he'd be praying for my conversion. The comment seemed a little off to me as well, but all he meant was that he'd be praying that I become more sincere in my Faith during the retreat.

PenitentWoman · « **Reply #20 on:** March 12, 2013, 11:46:55 PM »

Thanks Mater. That makes sense.

I guess for me, I've wrapped up so much of my identity in being Catholic that I have a hard time with all the divisions.

Iuvenalis · « **Reply #21 on:** March 13, 2013, 12:23:28 AM »

I'd pray for a wife. Worked for me.

If it's God's will to answer your prayer, He'll make it happen.

I'm not saying you should stay holed up in a room with and Xbox and she'll come knocking, but pray and live your life. It has surprised me where I ran into other trads.

Zeitun · « **Reply #22 on:** March 13, 2013, 10:53:59 AM »

Beware of faux trad women who say "I want men to respect me for my mind." That's code for "I expect to be in charge."

Bishop Williamson once said about women "You are the tomato plant and your husband is the stake. You are to conform to him, his wishes, his desires..." I'm paraphrasing but you get the gist.

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #23 on:** March 13, 2013, 11:07:13 AM »

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Thanks Mater. That makes sense.

I guess for me, I've wrapped up so much of my identity in being Catholic that I have a hard time with all the divisions.

Why let the divisions bother you? Even in the presence of Our Lord, the apostles were always arguing among themselves. Our Lord never reprimanded them for this unless they stepped into serious theological error.

Penitent Woman, maybe a Catholic singles website would be ideal for you.

PerEvangelicaDicta · « **Reply #24 on:** March 13, 2013, 11:48:36 AM »

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When I met her, and saw that she had the complete writings of Fr Leonard Feeney on the bookshelf behind her lovely shoulder...

...that was when I knew she was the one!

What a beautiful tribute of love and respect to the woman you love. Very moving.

PenitentWoman · « **Reply #25 on:** March 13, 2013, 01:24:03 PM »

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Thanks Mater. That makes sense.

I guess for me, I've wrapped up so much of my identity in being Catholic that I have a hard time with all the divisions.

Why let the divisions bother you? Even in the presence of Our Lord, the apostles were always arguing among themselves. Our Lord never reprimanded them for this unless they stepped into serious theological error.

Penitent Woman, maybe a Catholic singles website would be ideal for you.

Well it bothers me because there are people in both extremes saying who is or who isn't Catholic.

On one side, some say those who go to the Novus Ordo cannot be Catholic and they question (if not outright deny) the validity of the sacraments they received. So under that premise, I don't even have a Catholic identity yet. [/i]

On the other side, I have been told that sacraments given outside the RCC may be valid, but are not licit, and it is a sin for me to receive them, and I have been further told that sedevacantism is heretical, so I'd be giving up my Catholic identity to hold such a position.

So I can't win. I am made to feel as though I am doing something wrong/sinful either way. I guess that is why I care about divisions. :cry:

eddiearent · « **Reply #26 on:** March 13, 2013, 11:07:54 PM »

Truth be told, there's about 8 women on that Sede Singles site and about half of the women are twice my age. Herein lies the problem that I experience.

sedetrad · « **Reply #27 on:** March 14, 2013, 06:11:03 PM »

PenitentWoman,

Keep praying and God will provide you with the right person. You seem to have a clear head and will be able to steer away from the wrong people. Personally, I would never try to find my "match" at a "sede singles" website. The idea sounds crazy to me.

Matthew · « **Reply #28 on:** March 14, 2013, 07:26:02 PM »

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Well it bothers me because there are people in both extremes saying who is or who isn't Catholic.

On one side, some say those who go to the Novus Ordo cannot be Catholic and they question (if not outright deny) the validity of the sacraments they received. So under that premise, I don't even have a Catholic identity yet. [/i]

On the other side, I have been told that sacraments given outside the RCC may be valid, but are not licit, and it is a sin for me to receive them, and I have been further told that sedevacantism is heretical, so I'd be giving up my Catholic identity to hold such a position.

So I can't win. I am made to feel as though I am doing something wrong/sinful either way. I guess that is why I care about divisions. :cry:

It has to be very hard to try to find the right path alone, without a spouse or family member you trust to guide you.

So I would never minimize your difficulties.

That having been said, your situation isn't hopeless.

What you should do is carefully look at the main positions -- a place like CathInfo is probably a good place to start. Find a member whose truthful posts resonate with you -- or who seems to be a sincere poster.

For example, though you might have some people in the Novus Ordo that bash attending the Traditional Mass and sacraments, they also have a cushy place in the modern world, with little suffering. They aren't going against the grain or taking any hits for Christ. If Christ were alive today, would he be living such a comfortable, well-loved, easy life?

As for the specifics of who to trust or believe, you can take consolation in the fact that God isn't going to judge you as a priest or theologian. If you honestly do your best to please God, but maybe you chose the wrong path (objectively speaking), that doesn't mean you're culpable.

Not everyone is a theologian, Church historian, or Canon lawyer. God knows that.

He looks into your heart, and discerns who you're really trying to please. If that is "God" in your case, then you can rest easy.

My old priest told us again and again, "Be honest with yourself; be honest with God." he firmly convinced me that it was the height of foolishness to fool yourself, and even worse to try to fool God.

PenitentWoman · « **Reply #29 on:** March 18, 2013, 09:32:22 PM »

sedetrad, thanks for the kind words. I wasn't trying to sound pitiful. I was really just posting on this thread to point out there may be gems in the N.O.

Matthew, I really appreciate your post. It is reassuring to read what you've said. You've made some good points about God understanding that not everyone is a theologian, and you have given me much to think about. Thank you.