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Offline Viva Cristo Rey

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Re: To wear a mask or Not to wear a mask....
« Reply #75 on: May 10, 2020, 07:41:13 PM »
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  • They are mandated to go to our grocery store.  They would not allow a man inside the grocery store because he didn’t have a mask.  He said that in Florida no one had to wear a mask. 

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    Individualism/Re: To wear a mask or Not to wear a mask....
    « Reply #76 on: May 11, 2020, 01:00:46 AM »
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  • They are mandated to go for going to our grocery store.  They would not allow a man inside the grocery store because he didn’t have a mask.

    Really? Who is "mandated to go to your grocery store"?  Lawyers have argued before the U.S. Supreme Court that a government mandate that requires people to buy specific goods or services from a specific source is unConstitutional.

    A grocery is a private business.  The grocery is private property.  They are allowed to place restrictions on entry to their own property.  There's no illegal discrimination involved.  So it's entirely proper.  You're plenty senior enough to remember widespread posting of signs saying "No shirt, no shoes, no service".


    He said that in Florida no one had to wear a mask.

    That decision seems to have been left to individuals in Florida.

    But such accomodation of individualism exacts a price: The State of Florida also continued to allow passenger aircraft that was known to be flying directly from New York and New Jersey, filled with New Yorkers and New Jerseyites fleeing widespread CoVID-19 in their own states, to land and release all their passengers with practically  no restrictions whatsoever.   Do you really believe that there's absolutely no connection between the 3 counties notorious for being infested with retirees from New York & New Jersey: Broward, Palm Beach, and Miami-Dade, and their grim distinction as the counties with the greatest number of confirmed cases--and probably also deaths--in the state?


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    Re: To wear a mask or Not to wear a mask....
    « Reply #77 on: May 11, 2020, 02:06:50 PM »
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  • Like many others. I have health issues which preclude my being able to wear a face mask.
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    Re: To wear a mask or Not to wear a mask....
    « Reply #78 on: May 11, 2020, 03:49:35 PM »
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  • Ugh I am so annoyed...here it is a state ordinance to wear a mask when in any store (that is the few that are open) I can't stand it...It is unhealthy to do it and I so just want to be normal not give into this tyranny. I printed out that card and am thinking of using it. Also thinking of going to the store when the least amount of people are shopping. I have been trying to order online as much as possible but its such a hassle.

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    Re: To wear a mask or Not to wear a mask....
    « Reply #79 on: May 11, 2020, 04:35:59 PM »
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  • I just went to a Cabela’s store (hunting/guns/fishing) where there was a long line outside I had to stand in.

    I was happy to see only 10-20% of the people were wearing masks.

    Behind me, a couple sheeple start talking about COVID, and I told the guy not to worry: If he gets it, he will just have a runny nose for 3 days and be fine.

    Then they started talking about vaccines, and I told him Bill Gates wants him to get one, but he won’t give one to his kids.

    Then he thought there should be a special line for all the hero nurses, and I asked him why?  All the hospitals are empty, so what have they done to deserve special honor?

    Then the whole section of the line I was in started arguing, evenly split on both sides.

    Meanwhile, the line continues to progress, and as I get into the store, I see the employees are arguing between themselves in front of the customers:

    One kid was complaining that everyone should have to wear a mask, while another gal was mad those kinds of measures are turning our country socialist.

    Things are getting hot!  

    I was just relieved to see some few people outside CI at least semi-aware of what’s happening.
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    Re: To wear a mask or Not to wear a mask....
    « Reply #80 on: May 11, 2020, 04:45:59 PM »
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  • I just went to a Cabela’s store (hunting/guns/fishing) where there was a long line outside I had to stand in.

    I was happy to see only 10-20% of the people were wearing masks.

    Behind me, a couple sheeple start talking about COVID, and I told the guy not to worry: If he gets it, he will just have a runny nose for 3 days and be fine.

    Then they started talking about vaccines, and I told him Bill Gates wants him to get one, but he won’t give one to his kids.

    Then he thought there should be a special line for all the hero nurses, and I asked him why?  All the hospitals are empty, so what have they done to deserve special honor?

    Then the whole section of the line I was in started arguing, evenly split on both sides.

    Meanwhile, the line continues to progress, and as I get into the store, I see the employees are arguing between themselves in front of the customers:

    One kid was complaining that everyone should have to wear a mask, while another gal was mad those kinds of measures are turning our country socialist.

    Things are getting hot!  

    I was just relieved to see some few people outside CI at least semi-aware of what’s happening.
    This whole situation about wearing the masks in public reminded me of how all the fαɢs used to "shame" people about wearing the AIDS ribbon. The more things change, the more they stay the same. Lol!

    And this is from a jew sitcom. so true! Wear you're damn mask! Lol!

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    Re: To wear a mask or Not to wear a mask....
    « Reply #81 on: May 11, 2020, 05:04:37 PM »
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  • I just went to a Cabela’s store (hunting/guns/fishing) where there was a long line outside I had to stand in.

    I was happy to see only 10-20% of the people were wearing masks.

    Behind me, a couple sheeple start talking about COVID, and I told the guy not to worry: If he gets it, he will just have a runny nose for 3 days and be fine.

    Then they started talking about vaccines, and I told him Bill Gates wants him to get one, but he won’t give one to his kids.

    Then he thought there should be a special line for all the hero nurses, and I asked him why?  All the hospitals are empty, so what have they done to deserve special honor?

    Then the whole section of the line I was in started arguing, evenly split on both sides.

    Meanwhile, the line continues to progress, and as I get into the store, I see the employees are arguing between themselves in front of the customers:

    One kid was complaining that everyone should have to wear a mask, while another gal was mad those kinds of measures are turning our country socialist.

    Things are getting hot!  

    I was just relieved to see some few people outside CI at least semi-aware of what’s happening.
    Yes, it's good to see that some people are aware. Also we see how thorough they are with their "divide and conquer" technique.
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    Re: To wear a mask or Not to wear a mask....
    « Reply #82 on: May 15, 2020, 08:00:02 PM »
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  • Ugh I am so annoyed ... here it is a state ordinance to wear a mask when in any store[...] I can't stand it ...


    I was happy to see only 10-20% of the people were wearing masks. [....] I was just relieved to see some few people outside CI at least semi-aware of what’s happening.

    "No!  Those 10-20% are not aware at all: I'm very disappointed to see that here in CathInfo, the prevailing opinion is expressed by what might be called "inverse sheeple": Otherwise intelligent members who accept any & all conspiracy hypotheses that someone is able to articulate.  Such hypotheses ought not be adopted without applying a rational sense of discrimination.


    It is unhealthy to do it and I so just want to be normal not give into this tyranny.

    Let's be clear on this: When I wear a face-mask, I'm not protecting myself; there is truth in conclusions about that the protection provided by face-masks is imperfect to various degrees.  Anyone without a well-fitted face-mask would be foolish to wade repeatedly into a CoVID-19-infested environment, and expect  to be made invulnerable to catching CoVID-19.  But for medical care-givers working 12-hour shifts, it's the best option they have.  And the presumed protection can be even more imperfect for people or institutions that fail to make even simple efforts at maintaining those masks.  For ordinary folks in the near future, it seems likely that it'll be far easier, e.g., to sanitize such masks with a soaking spray of high-strength rubbing alcohol, than to buy new masks in bulk.

    So instead, when I wear a face-mask, I understand that I'm protecting my neighbors.  It's less than "perfect" to varying degrees, but it's the best opportunity we got.

    Plenty of cօռspιʀαcιҽs are real, including some related to CoVID-19, but wearing face-masks to reduce the spread of CoVID-19 among your neighbors, much more as a matter of slowing it than any rational hopes of preventing it, is not among them.  It's an issue of public health, not an exercise in gov't oppression, but there's little chance of success unless local populations coöperate, instead of rebelling irrationally to the minor physical burden involved.


    I told the guy not to worry: If he gets it, he will just have a runny nose for 3 days and be fine.

    Holy [expletive]!  Are you really that ignorant?  For the sake of people who've survived into their senior years, and might wander into your smugly ignorant and inappropriately rebellious path, please, go read or review, then ponder, a March 22 reposting by "Clemens Maria": "‘S***, this Is Not The Flu’".  Reply #53, March 22, 2020, 20:07:52): <https://www.cathinfo.com/politics-and-world-leaders/the-coronavirus-hoax-by-ron-paul/msg691933/#msg691933> [×].  And keep in mind that the younger a person is, the more likely that he will be asymptomatic despite being infected and contagious.

    I'm very glad that I found a reliable forum for factual info on CoVID-19.  It's outside CathInfo, and its participants collectively understand not only medicine, biochemistry, and other sciences, but also can recognize evidence of international & national cօռspιʀαcιҽs.  Of which there are plenty in modern times.

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    Note ×: Originally appearing as "Coronavirus [:] A Medical Worker Describes Terrifying Lung Failure From COVID-19 — Even in His Young Patients".  “It first struck me how different it was when I saw my first coronavirus patient go bad. I was like, Holy [manure], this is not the flu. Watching this relatively young guy, gasping for air, pink frothy secretions coming out of his tube.”  By Lizzie Presser, March 21, 5 a.m. EDT.  <https://www.propublica.org/article/a-medical-worker-describes--terrifying-lung-failure-from-covid19-even-in-his-young-patients>.


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    Re: To wear a mask or Not to wear a mask....
    « Reply #83 on: May 16, 2020, 01:05:18 PM »
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  • Mr. Alligator I have seen all kinds of things being hacked up this COVID time including some happy black blood clots.
    Good times 
    Very happy they were sick for weeks because it only lasts three days.

    Twice I had to hold on to railings at work to keep from passing out.  O2 sats running 90- 91. Needed to use a lung exercise machine for two weeks after I felt better. Used Zinc massive doses of Vitamin c, Selenium, Myrrh, and tonic with quinine. All in February before we knew it was here. 
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    Re: To wear a mask or Not to wear a mask....
    « Reply #84 on: May 16, 2020, 01:39:24 PM »
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  • when I wear a face-mask, I understand that I'm protecting my neighbors.
    Why? Do you think you have Covid19? You aren't protecting anyone by wearing a mask and that mask is more likely to hurt you.

    For your own health and that of others, you'd be better off keeping away from old folks homes, doctors, and hospitals. I've done that all of my life, nothing new to me.

    See the CI thread Neurosurgeon Says Face Masks Pose Serious Risk To Healthy People  https://www.cathinfo.com/health-and-nutrition/neurosurgeon-says-face-masks-pose-serious-risk-to-healthy-people/msg699445/?topicseen#msg699445
     

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    Re: To wear a mask or Not to wear a mask....
    « Reply #85 on: May 16, 2020, 01:40:55 PM »
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  • I agree with AlligatorDicax, My sister is a full time nurse and she wears a mask full time. We need masks for the medical field. Coronavirus is being used as a political tool for taking away people's freedoms for the future which is sad and we have to watch out for that. But, this is a global health issue. I believe in many cօռspιʀαcιҽs about freemasons, the illuminati, NWO, etc. But, the coronavirus is a terrible thing that is killing people. I hope for a cure and I have a view on vaccines that would probably be controversial on this forum. After reading more into the issue of vaccines, I believe we do need a coronavirus vaccine especially to protect the elderly. I myself have been vaccinated throughout my life and I have been pretty healthy myself. I have bad Plaque  Psoriasis and I am only 19. I am proud that I have been vaccinated since I was a baby because I wouldn't want to have more health problems. 

    If it weren't for vaccines, Many of us would have polio and be in iron lung machines. Back when I was a Missouri-Synod Lutheran, I had a lutheran pastor who had polio when he was a kid and it crippled him, he learned how to walk again. Vaccines made smallpox disappear completely. It has saved the U.S. government $1.34 trillion in societal costs. I don't care if the argument is that a chickenpox vaccine has ingredients that are considered "immoral" or that vaccines cause autism because of a mercury compound (which is literally based off one surgeon's study in 1997). In response to the mercury argument, we still have americans with asbestos in their houses. We used to have led paint-thinner. We used to drink and smoke when we were pregnant. I don't care because the good outweighs the bad with the issue of vaccines and if us Catholics become anti-vaxxers, we just contribute to a bigger global health issue and make things harder than it is. Let's as catholics push for better health of all people and also leave it to Jesus because the bible does not condemn vaccinations. I do agree that babies can't handle so many vaccines at once and that is why it is good to wait a while. It is all the parent's decision and leave it at that. Leave it to the individual. If you have a problem with this then take it up with the CDC, FDA, IOM, AMA, WHO, etc. God Bless.  :pray:
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    Re: To wear a mask or Not to wear a mask....
    « Reply #86 on: May 16, 2020, 01:57:28 PM »
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  • if us Catholics become anti-vaxxers, we just contribute to a bigger global health issue and make things harder than it is.
    Have you opened your mind to the possibility that people exist who have a larger knowledge base than you do? If you do a little research, you will learn that the term "anti-vaxxer" (like the term "conspiracy theorist" or the term "anti-choice") is a term that originated as a psy-op (psychological operation) in order to discredit the opposition.
    Repeated use of these pejorative slurs is calculated to end intellectual discourse and replace it with the shaming and silencing of those who have knowledge of facts threatening to the PTB (powers that be -- i.e. the "mystery of iniquity" spoken of in Holy Scripture.)
    A good place to start expanding your own knowledge base is here:
    https://childrenshealthdefense.org/
    It is run by Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the son of the αssαssιnαtҽd Robert F. Kennedy and the nephew of the αssαssιnαtҽd John F. Kennedy. I think you will enjoy learning new information.
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    Re: To wear a mask or Not to wear a mask....
    « Reply #87 on: May 16, 2020, 02:09:33 PM »
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  • I myself have been vaccinated throughout my life and I have been pretty healthy myself. I have bad Plaque  Psoriasis and I am only 19. I am proud that I have been vaccinated since I was a baby because I wouldn't want to have more health problems.
    I'm in my late 60's and my wife is 20+ years younger than me and all of my children are younger than you. I am in perfect health and have never had a flu vaccine in my life. Let me know how your health turns in another 30 years.

    When I was 25 (40+ years ago) I took my 11 year old dog to the vet for a fishing lure hook stuck in his lip and the vet said that there was a bad flu/virus (??) that was killing dogs that I should have the dog get the shot for it. The dog was in perfect health, he ran around and looked like he was 5 years old. Three months after the shot the dog had aged 10 years, his face fur turned white, he became blind and developed a tumor on his anus. I had to put him down.  Since then I do not listen to doctors advise about flu vaccines.

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    Re: To wear a mask or Not to wear a mask....
    « Reply #88 on: May 16, 2020, 02:47:56 PM »
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  • I have bad Plaque  Psoriasis and I am only 19. I am proud that I have been vaccinated since I was a baby because I wouldn't want to have more health problems.

    That's a so called "immunesystem problem". Probably caused by vaccines.


    A 19 year old with a bad Plaque Psoriasis calling himself "pretty healthy" is a bad joke.

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    Re: To wear a mask or Not to wear a mask....
    « Reply #89 on: May 16, 2020, 03:47:00 PM »
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  • When I was a teen I had the normal acne teens get in humid sweaty tropical climates and my mother took me a dermatologist. For three years he gave me antibiotics to take every day and I had to go through three different antibiotics through the years because the acne became immune to them. Before I took the antibiotics,  I never missed a day of school. After the antibiotics my great immune system was compromised and I would catch colds like 3x a year. One of the treatments the doctor gave me was a 14 session radiation treatments to shrink the oil glands in my face. Luckily my mother stopped it after three sessions or I would be a wrinkled prune face today. All the time my aunt kept telling my mother to stop all of that garbage and to just take me to get facial cleanings by her old dermatologist's nurse (the nurse was like 75). My mom finally listened after three years and from then on my acne was taken care of. Had my mom listened to my aunt's age old natural solution  from the beginning, I would not have had to go through that ordeal of being a test mouse for "modern" up to date" dermatologist. It took me 10 +years to bring my immune system back closer to  what it was when I was young. I do not take antibiotics for anything except for severe infections, maybe three times in the last 30+ years.

    After I was like 20, we found a real good doctor that was close to my family, almost like an uncle. Most of the time he would tell us to just tolerate the problem, and let your body take care of it. If another doctor said I needed to take something or do something, I'd call my doctor to ask him and always he would tell me to just ignore the advise. After having been cut up in a boating accident, I was diagnosed as having a heart attack at the emergency room of a famous hospital. I was 32 years old. I called my doctor and he came right over. They had me all wired up with monitors. He walked and said what's happening young man. He looked at the clipboard at the foot of the bed for 3 seconds and asked the nurse where on the clipboard does he sign to release me. The nurse said that the floor heart specialist wanted me to stay overnight for observation, that I had had a heart attack. My doctor said, yeah, yeah, but where do I sign to release him. She showed him, he signed it and said to me, "rise and walk", then he said he'd be right back that as long as he was there he'd go see another patient and come back to walk out with me. I got dressed and was ready to go when the floor heart specialist walked in and said what are you doing getting dressed? I told him my doctor had released me. He then called and asked her what doctor released me, that I had had a heart attack and that he said I must stay overnight for observation. The nurse said it was Dr. X that had released me, and the floor heart specialist hunched over like a dog tucking his tail between his legs. He said, Dr.X is his doctor? Then that second Dr. X walked in and the floor doctor greeted him like a child greets the pope. That day I learned that  my family friend doctor, Dr.X, was a renowned heart specialist. The man had no pretensions about him, I always though he was just my family doctor. Anyhow, the floor doctor takes the chart and asks Dr.X how he could just release me just like that with what the chart was showing that I had had a heart attack. Dr. X told him, yes, yes, it can indicate a heart attack, however, you see this and that, it can also indicate that it is a vasalvagal response. You see, I've known this young man since he was a boy and he is a bull  and his grandfather is the same, he is 95 years old and is in better shape than a 60 year old. The problem is that they both pass out from sharp pains, thy are vasalvagal's. That chart can also mean they had a vasalvagal reponse to pain. 

    Had my doctor not been there, I would have been diagnosed as having a heart attack at 32! I would not have been able to get insurance from anyone and who knows what else.

    Dr.X passed away 17 years ago and since then stories like that heart attack diagnoses have multiplied through the years. I can't go to a doctor without them diagnosing fathom illnesses and always proven totally wacked out wrong over the years. I never listened to one of them. I think to myself, OK, thanks for the warning, now I know to look for another doctor. Reminds of the time I went to a chiropractor (yes I know they are not MD's) because someone gave me a free visit pass. I had injured my hand playing football. I was like 26. He said my back was out of wack that I should come in to be adjusted. I told him, yesterday was bench pressing 350lbs, over two times my body weight, if my back is out of wack, I'll just leave it that way.

    From experience I do not listen blindly to doctors. When I find another Dr.X I'll let everyone know.