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Offline xavierpope

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Era of peace
« on: May 15, 2020, 09:12:10 AM »
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  • Hi all, 
    Starting to doubt about this 'era of peace' that has been attributed to our lady of fatima.
    Jesus said he did not come for peace but for division. 
    It doesn't fit in with the book of revelation which states that at the end Jesus would come and send the false prophet to hell. 
    I believe francis to be the false prophet
    Jesus comes at the end during the persecution. 
    Does the world get bad, then peace, then bad again?
    Don't understand 

    Offline Pax Vobis

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    Re: Era of peace
    « Reply #1 on: May 15, 2020, 09:52:19 AM »
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    Starting to doubt about this 'era of peace' that has been attributed to our lady of fatima.  Jesus said he did not come for peace but for division. 
    When Our Lord said He did not come for peace, He was speaking to the Jews, whose definition of peace was a worldly kingdom.  The true peace of Christ can be had here on earth, through the Church and grace, as happened during the Middle Ages, when the world was centered on God and Catholicism.  That was (mostly) a peaceful time because people were trying to be good.  And God blessed them for it.
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    It doesn't fit in with the book of revelation which states that at the end Jesus would come and send the false prophet to hell. 
    I believe francis to be the false prophet
    The book of the Apocalypse is mysterious and complex.  It also tells of many time periods all mixed together.  We are not meant to understand it completely.  Francis is one of many false prophets that the world has seen for centuries.  You can't say that he is THE false prophet of the Bible.  No one knows.
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    Jesus comes at the end during the persecution. 
    No.  Jesus comes at the end of the world.  Before He comes again, the antichrist is killed (the persecution ends) and the Church returns and there is a period of peace before the end of the world. 
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    Does the world get bad, then peace, then bad again?  Don't understand 
    Yes, so say many prophecies.  You should read the explanation of events from Ven Bartholomew Holzhauser.  He says we are living in the last of the 5th age.  The 6th age is the triumph of Mary and peace for the Church.  Then there is the "great falling away" told by St Paul and we enter the 7th and last age of the Church - the period of antichrist and the end of the world.


    Offline Struthio

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    Re: Era of peace
    « Reply #2 on: May 15, 2020, 12:12:00 PM »
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  • Quote from: Catholic Encyclopedia, Millennium and Millenarianism
    There is no trace of chiliasm to be found in the Gospels or in the Epistles of St. Paul; everything moves in the spiritual and religious sphere; even the descriptions of the end of the world and of the last judgment bear this stamp. The victory over the symbolical beast (the enemy of God and of the saints) and over Antichrist, as well as the triumph of Christ and His saints, are described in the Apocalypse of St. John (Revelation 20-21), in pictures that resemble those of the Jєωιѕн apocalyptic writers, especially of Daniel and Henoch. Satan is chained in the abyss for a thousand years, the martyrs and the just rise from the dead and share in the priesthood and kingship of Christ. Though it is difficult to focus sharply the pictures used in the Apocalypse and the things expressed by them, yet there can be no doubt that the whole description refers to the spiritual combat between Christ and the Church on the one hand and the malignant powers of hell and the world on the other.

    No trace of an era of peace to be found in the Gospels or in the Epistles of St. Paul.

    Following St. Chrysostom (Op. Imperf. on Matt., homilies XLVIII and XLIX) the consummation of the age of the jews, of the old covenant culminates in the destruction of Jerusalem A.D. 70. The consummation of the age of the gentiles will start with the great apostacy or revolt (2 Thess 2), with the abomination desolating the holy place, the sacrifice abrogated, and it includes the destruction of the Church (the new Jerusalem). The former destruction is corporeal carnage, the latter destruction is spiritual carnage. In both cases, few 'survive' (a scattered handfull of holy people left, Dan 12,7). The abomination of desolation then was the hosts of Roman soldiers surrounding and then taking Jerusalem, the abomination of desolation at the end are hosts of heretics spiritually destroying the Church. (compare Lk 21,20 and Mt 24,15).

    I believe we're witnessing the consummatio saeculi. The generation which witnessed the solemn apostacy of the fathers of the robber council A.D. 1965 will not pass before Our Lord will return. In my opinion, the head of the hosts of antichrists was Montini (Paul VI), though all antipopes since Roncalli preached the adoration of man, or mankind, U.N., human rights, etc.





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    Re: Era of peace
    « Reply #3 on: May 23, 2020, 06:36:10 PM »
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  • There seems to be this unfulfilled prophecy concerning an era of peace in the Old Testament: 

    "And he shall judge the Gentiles, and rebuke many people: and they shall turn their swords into ploughshares, and their spears into sickles: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they be exercised any more to war." (Isaias 2:4)


     The quotation below is my analysis that I made on an older post discussing this prophecy on this thread: https://www.cathinfo.com/crisis-in-the-church/are-there-any-prophecies-of-a-restoration-before-the-end-of-the-world/msg695156/#msg695156
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    It seems that this could refer to the period of peace promised at Fatima, as this verse mentions that armies will longer be trained for war, and that former weapons will be turned into instruments of agriculture. The phrasing of "nation shall not lift up sword against nation" seems remarkably similar to when Christ speaks about how, during the times shortly preceding the arrival of the Antichrist, that "nation shall rise against nation" in Matthew 24:7. Both verses seem to imply that their respective events will take place on a world scale, and obviously a peace of this kind referred to in the above passage has not happened. This could also fit into the message of Akita, which mentioned that after the Chastisement no military weapons would be left for men to defend themselves with.