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Re: Time to Get the Hell Out of Here
« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2023, 11:18:37 AM »
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  • If it were only during Ramadan, restricted to Somali neighborhoods and done by a private party, I could understand it in principle. Ramadan is big enough that many secular Muslims who drink, smoke and eat pork eleven months out of the year will sometimes fast.

    At the same time, the first of five daily Islamic prayers is at 4 in the morning and Ramadan is over in 5 days. I see an Establishment Clause case here.
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    Re: Time to Get the Hell Out of Here
    « Reply #16 on: April 16, 2023, 11:18:44 AM »
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  • St. Francis Of Paola (Born in Italy, 15th century.)  "By the grace of the Almighty, the Great Monarch will annihilate heretics and unbelievers. He will have a great army, and angels will fight at his side. He will be like the sun among the stars. His influence will spread over the whole earth. All in all, there will be on earth twelve Kings, one Emperor, one Pope and a few Princes. They will all lead holy lives."

    Yes indeed. God can and will step in and could turn things around in an hour.

    If God sent so much as two or three angels to help a holy Pope and/or Monarch, with the charge to overthrow evil(s), it would be OVER for the other side.
    Do you have any idea what kind of command the Angels have over the physical world?

    It sounds great, and we all wonder why God doesn't do this right now. But I for one understand at least a bit. When God steps in (like in the early days of the Church) it almost forces a build up of the Church. But it also ups the ante. If the Restoration happened, say, 30 years before God's intended time, then the End of the World would necessarily have to come 30 years early as well! But maybe God doesn't WANT the End of the World (End of time) to happen 30 years early. And maybe most of us would agree, if we understood this!

    So it doesn't take much imagination to understand that God has His mysterious reasons -- that He knows best.

    But the takeaway is that we need to trust God, that He IS in control, not just in theory but in reality and in fact. And if we trust in God, then we can't and shouldn't lose heart in this Crisis, no matter how bad it seems to get. No matter what happens to Mass availability, no matter how many priests "leave" for this or that reason, no matter how many scandals, controversies, splits, general strife -- we must continue to serve God and do our best.
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    Re: Time to Get the Hell Out of Here
    « Reply #17 on: April 16, 2023, 11:31:52 AM »
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  • Right.  And i've heard many stories where an angel simply stood behind someone they wanted to protect and the evil doers were so scared AT THE SIGHT of an angel, they fled.  :laugh1:  The angel didn't even do anything but give a stern look; that's how powerful they are.  Now imagine if they started swinging a sword of light and fire?  The "bad guys" would die of terror.

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    Re: Time to Get the Hell Out of Here
    « Reply #18 on: April 16, 2023, 11:45:27 AM »
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    Re: Time to Get the Hell Out of Here
    « Reply #19 on: April 16, 2023, 01:52:47 PM »
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  • English translation of the adhan is:

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    Allah  is Great! 
    Allah is Great! Allah is Great! Allah is Great!
    I bear witness that there is no god except the One God.
    I bear witness that there is no god except the One God.
    I bear witness that Muhammad is the messenger of God.
    I bear witness that Muhammad is the messenger of God.
    Hurry to the prayer. Hurry to the prayer.
    Hurry to salvation. Hurry to salvation.
    Allah is Great! Allah is Great!
    There is no god except the One God.
    The Moslem Call to Prayer is not innocuous bells, as some naive posters seem to assume.


    More than one Traditional Catholic Priest (one a missionary) has told me that Allah is a demon.

    Do you think it's a First Amendment right for Moslems to have their prayer to their demon false god on LOUDSPEAKERS  throughout the city?

    Why not our beautiful Catholic prayers which honor the ONE TRUE GOD?
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    Re: Time to Get the Hell Out of Here
    « Reply #20 on: April 16, 2023, 01:55:51 PM »
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  • The irony is that these same liberals now so supportive of Muslim religious freedom might think twice once said Muslims reach political critical mass and are able to enact their own moral strictures in the community. Goodbye Gomorrah, goodbye letting the good times roll.
    That is their goal and they are reaching it in Minneapolis.
    Also in New York where they have their own Sharia police force on the streets.
    Also in Paris, which has huge no-go zones where French police are not allowed.
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    Re: Time to Get the Hell Out of Here
    « Reply #21 on: April 16, 2023, 01:58:33 PM »
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  • If I'm understanding it correctly, what is broadcast is simply a call to prayer, not the prayers themselves.  The Muslims are alerted as to the time, and they take it from there.  Same basic idea as Angelus bells.
    Look it up. The "call to prayer" IS a prayer to Allah (which the Mockingbird Media mistranslate as "God" (sic).
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    Re: Time to Get the Hell Out of Here
    « Reply #22 on: April 16, 2023, 07:30:42 PM »
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  • found this explanation:

    The “Adhan” or the SO-CALLED ‘Call to Prayer’
     
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    (The Components of the Adhan)
     Allah is greater than any description = Allahu Akbar – four times
    I testify that there is no god but Allah = Ash hadu an la ilaha illal lah – two times
    I testify that Muhammad is Allah’s Messenger = Ash hadu anna Muhammadan Rasu lul lah – two times
    I testify that Ali is the Vicergent of Allah = Ash hadu anna Amiral Momeneena Hajjattul lah- two times
    Hasten to prayers = Hayya’alas Salah – two times
    Hasten to deliverance = Hayya’alal Falah – two times
    Hasten to the best act = Hayya’ala Khayril ‘Amal – two times
    Allah is greater than any description = Allahu Akbar – two times
    There is no god but Allah = La ilaha illal lah – two times
    (What it really means is a call to WAR with the Infidel, to defeat the Infidel and asking for blessings from Allah to provide them strength and power in conquering the infidel)
     “The general secret of the Adhan is the announcement to the overt and covert powers and the divine armies to attend the Meeting. Its general discipline is to be aware of the greatness of the position, its significance and the majesty of the Presence and the Present, and it is the servility, helplessness, poverty, incapability and shortcoming of the “possible” (existent) in carrying out orders and deserving to attend the Meeting [mahdar], unless the kindness and mercy of Allah, the Most High, extend the helping hand to make up for the shortcomings. Adabus Salaat – Imam Khomeini.”
          
    Next piece of info. Why would ANYONE who is of another faith, Buddhist, Christian, Jєωιѕн, Hindu, etc take a stand proclaiming that their God doesn’t exist? Only indoctrinated youth at Universities such as Duke would fall for this nonsense.
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    The Adhan is the announcement of the existence of Islam, of the beliefs and deeds of Muslims, and a rejection of all false deities.
    http://www.al-islam.org/radiance-secrets-prayer-muhsin-qaraati/let%E2%80%99s-welcome-prayer
     
    The 3rd piece of info;
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    When he (the Mu’adhdhin = the muslim official) says: Come to prayer, one should make a response: There is no might and no power except with ALLAH.
    When he (the Mu’adhdhin) says: Come to salvation, one should respond: There is no might and no power except with ALLAH.
     
    https://blackbunker9.wordpress.com/2010/08/05/a-translation-of-the-adhaan-call-to-prayer-azaan/
     
     
    The 4th item, we will examine the Kalima – or “The Declaration”
    The definition of Kalima = In Arabic grammar ‘Kalima’ refers to, any sentence that means something for example:
    ‘There is none worthy of worship save Allah’
    ‘The House of Allah is in Makka’
    ‘Allah is the Master of all Creation’
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    First verse – We read in Holy Quran:
     [Shakir 5:55] Only Allah is your Vali and His Messenger and those who believe, those who keep up prayers and pay the poor-rate while they bow.
    Second verse – [Shakir 4:59] O you who believe! Obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those in authority from among you; then if you quarrel about anything, refer it to Allah and the Messenger, if you believe in Allah and the last day; this is better and very good in the end.
    Third verse – [Shakir 5:67] O Messenger! Deliver what has been revealed to you from your Lord; and if you do it not, then you have not delivered His message, and Allah will protect you from the people; surely Allah will not guide the unbelieving people.   
     
    http://www.shiapen.com/fiqh/ali-un-wali-allah/kalima-declaration.html
     
    Now, in closing, lets examine Taqiyya & Kitman – The practice of Deceiving, or lying, to prevent persecution of your beliefs.    
     
    TaqiyyaKitmanGraphic
     
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    Question: Are Muslims permitted to lie?
    Summary Answer: Muslim scholars teach that Muslims should generally be truthful to each other, unless the purpose of lying is to “smooth over differences.”
    There are two forms of lying to non-believers that are permitted under certain circuмstances, taqiyya and kitman. These circuмstances are typically those that advance the cause Islam – in some cases by gaining the trust of non-believers in order to draw out their vulnerability and defeat them.
     
    http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/011-taqiyya.htm
     
    Other links for information:
    http://inclusivemosqueinitiative.org/resources/resources-salah/adhan_iqamah/

    http://www.shiapen.com/fiqh/ali-un-wali-allah/adhan-call-to-prayers.html
     
     
    Respectfully submitted by SilenceDogood2010 this Seventeenth Day of January in the Year of our Lord Two Thousand and Fifteen.

    https://silencedogood2010.wordpress.com/2015/01/17/adhan-the-muslim-call-to-meeting-prayer/


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    Re: Time to Get the Hell Out of Here
    « Reply #23 on: April 17, 2023, 04:34:55 AM »
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  • I lived in New York for decades including adjacent to two Muslim neighborhoods.  Unless they are very new, like after 2020, there are no Sharia police.  London, however, is another story.  

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    Re: Time to Get the Hell Out of Here
    « Reply #24 on: April 17, 2023, 12:20:27 PM »
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  • I lived in New York for decades including adjacent to two Muslim neighborhoods.  Unless they are very new, like after 2020, there are no Sharia police.  London, however, is another story. 
    This is from 2019

    Muslim Patrol Squad Causes Alarm for NY Residents
    Posted Friday, February 8, 2019   |   By Cole P. Zail   |  312 Comments

    muslim-community-patrolPhoto Credit: Christian Action Network
    In Brooklyn, New York, an all-volunteer team of Muslim residents have formed a neighborhood patrol squad.
    Launched in early 2019, these “Muslim Community Patrols”, or MCP, drive through Brooklyn neighborhoods in what look like official police cruisers with the stated goal of protecting mosques. Its fleet currently consists of two cars but is expected to have five patrol vehicles by the end of the month, with plans to eventually expand citywide. Noor Rabah, vice president of the Muslim Community Patrol, has described the group as “like a neighborhood watch but on steroids.”
    The group currently has the support of Brooklyn’s borough president, Eric Adams, and of Brian J. Conroy, the commanding officer of patrol borough Brooklyn South. According to its leaders, the group is self-funded and purchased their uniforms and patrol cars with donations. Its members recently underwent training by police officers from the NYPD’s 72nd precinct, and say they plan to work alongside the police force to bridge the gap between law enforcement and locals.
    The organization’s official website displays a quote from the Quran, and states that the patrol group aims to “not only serve as watchmen but, serviceman aiding the youth in our communities by enabling them with resources such as mentorship and career training. Mentors will work side by side, and keep them under their wing to ensure a growing success.”
    But many residents have expressed alarm over the group’s presence, including some members of the local Muslim community, who have questioned the need for the patrol. Somia Elrowmeim, a member of the Arab American Association of New York, said of the group, “We don’t want you near our community.”
    Other locals are wary of the group’s intentions, suspecting the patrol squad’s real goal is to enforce Sharia law or to target non-Muslim residents of the community. Self-appointed Muslim community patrols have already been formed in countries like Germany and England, with the express goal of enforcing Sharia and attacking passersby whom they perceive as disobeying the religious code of conduct.
    On its website, the Muslim Community Patrol describes itself as a “civilian patrol organization established to patrol neighboring communities in order to protect members of the local community from escalating quality-of-life nuisance crimes. The organization’s vision is to promote the safety and well‐being of all residents of the neighboring communities.”
    It adds, “The visible presence of the Muslim Community Patrol will act as a deterrent to neighborhood crime. Acting as an extra set of eyes for the NYPD, neighborhoods will be safer than ever.”
    Group officials have stated that they do not intend to impose Sharia law, with vice president Rabah telling local reporters, “It’s not about ‘Sharia Law.’ It’s about Muslims taking care of people in our community.” Despite this, many New Yorkers have expressed doubt, understandably alarmed that the group may be more like the “Muslim patrols” overseas than the average neighborhood safety patrol.


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    Re: Time to Get the Hell Out of Here
    « Reply #25 on: April 17, 2023, 12:25:17 PM »
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  • New York Muslim Community Patrol – Creeping Sharia?
     Faye HigbeeJanuary 1, 2019

    muslim community patrol



    New York City Police have been allowing civilians in culture-specific groups to patrol specific areas within the city. The groups have their own patrol cars and uniforms – one of the groups is the “Muslim Community Patrol,” according to the New York Post. Their car is identical to an NYPD vehicle, but the words on the car are different. It was spotted in the Bay Ridge area that has a “Burgeoning Muslim population.” They are not the only civilian volunteers on patrol, but the their presence has people concerned that “Sharia patrols” could take over the districts where they live.
    The quasi-official community patrols could pose a giant problem for the NYPD. In some foreign cities, Sharia patrols are known for attacking passersby over non-Muslim clothing, alcohol, or other violations of their law that are not violations of the law of the land. While some have emphatically stated it couldn’t happen in America, the formation of this “Muslim Community Patrol” is a concern to many. , parts of Germany, Sweden, and even Minneapolis, Minnesota have been in the news for the issue.
    Note that the words “Courtesy, Professionalism, Respect” are missing from the MCP car, but are present on the other two civilian vehicles. And there are Arabic words on the portion of the car where precinct number is normally shown.


    The Citizen’s Police Academy states:
    “Each session addresses key NYPD initiatives in lectures, videos, roleplaying events, tactical exercises, and interdisciplinary workshops led by Police Academy instructors and representatives of other specialized units. Curricular coursework touches on domestic violence, gang violence, mental health, firearms simulation, counterterrorism, and use of force. Lessons are continuously revised to ensure content is current and relevant.”
    There are similar patrols in the Hasidic community in Brooklyn’s Borough Park – called the Shomrim Society, (South Brooklyn Safety Patrol- Shomrim translates to “guardians or protectors”). They wield the power of the police, which has sometimes caused serious problems when they haven’t called the regular police until a couple of hours after an incident, according to the NYT.


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    Re: Time to Get the Hell Out of Here
    « Reply #26 on: April 17, 2023, 12:29:46 PM »
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  • 2023 update

    MCP&S originally had a force of three patrol cars when it first formed in November 2018, but it now has seven cars on the streets of NYC with the intention of purchasing 23 more cars in the near future.
    The MCP cars are nearly identical to NYPD patrol cars, with both having Ford Taurus models and both sharing similar decal schemes, colors and emblems.
    Though the MCP cars do not have physical lights on their hoods, they do have emergency flashing lights in the front and back windshields.
    “A lot of people can’t tell them apart,” said the informer.  “In fact, most people think they are NYPD detective cars, especially if they are driving behind you.”
    Significantly, some MCP officers have been driving their patrol cars with their emergency lights in continuous flash mode, even when not responding to an emergency.
    “They never turn them off and people are seeing these lights and thinking, NYPD,” the informer stated.
    The cars also have sirens, which another informer says is being used to intimidate people.
    “They turn on their sirens when they see non-Muslims park next to a mosque during Friday prayer services,” said the second informer. 
    “They get out of their cars and start humiliating these people, telling them they have to move their cars and that they can’t park next to a mosque because they’re not a Muslim, even though it’s completely legal for them to park there,” he said.
    In addition, MCP officers are patrolling sidewalks near mosques and stripping people of their open containers of alcohol.  Though open containers of alcohol are a city violation, an NYPD officer issuing a ticket typically resolves it.
    “In some cases, these MCP officers are kicking the beer out of their hands or yanking it from them and pouring it out on the streets,” the informer said.  “These guys aren’t police officers and they don’t have the right to take someone else’s property and destroy it, even if a person is committing an offense.”
    They talk to these people like the ARE the police,” he said.  “And a lot of people in the Bed-Stuy community are getting fed up with it.  Some are demanding a meeting with the district attorney, including the Muslims in the community.”
    Both informants, however, agree that the NYPD still favors the “services” provided by officers who drive the Muslim Community Patrol Cars.
    “The local captain, he doesn’t care if they’re enforcing Sharia law.  The police see them as helping them with their jobs.”
    Christian Action Network has produced a 16-page report on Muslim Community Patrol cars and their agenda to enforce Sharia law in New York City. 


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    Re: Time to Get the Hell Out of Here
    « Reply #27 on: April 18, 2023, 03:20:37 PM »
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  • Of these Somalians in Minnesota, how many of them have had the gospel preached to them?  

    Or... another way of putting it... of all those complaining here, show of hands of those who have attempted to preach the gospel to them.

    (sound of crickets)

    Yeah, that's what I thought.

    Similar to the old adage that we get the leaders we deserve, we also get a lot of other things that we deserve as well.

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    Re: Time to Get the Hell Out of Here
    « Reply #28 on: April 18, 2023, 04:54:30 PM »
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  • Of these Somalians in Minnesota, how many of them have had the gospel preached to them? 

    Or... another way of putting it... of all those complaining here, show of hands of those who have attempted to preach the gospel to them.

    (sound of crickets)

    Yeah, that's what I thought.

    Similar to the old adage that we get the leaders we deserve, we also get a lot of other things that we deserve as well.
    There are Somali Christians, both in Somalia and here. They're just not open about it. In the US, most will ostracize you or disown you. In Somalia, even worse. And for a community that spends a lot of time and money in both countries...
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    Re: Time to Get the Hell Out of Here
    « Reply #29 on: April 18, 2023, 05:39:17 PM »
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  • There are Somali Christians, both in Somalia and here. They're just not open about it. In the US, most will ostracize you or disown you. In Somalia, even worse. And for a community that spends a lot of time and money in both countries...
    US Representative Ilhan Omar’s family are warlords in Somalia.  They forcibly export Somalis to Minnesota to vote/maintain her in power (if they don’t, their families are threatened back in Somalia).  Now we have Somalian ghettos full of gangbangers, drug dealers, unemployed entitled perpetual welfare babies, woman beaters, and general undesirables.

    It all actually started under Clinton, who imported them to Minnesota, where they turn everything to shitholes (Google “little mosque on the prairie”).

    Minnesota is always happy to hand out free meal tickets (it ensures more votes), and this is where the likes of Omar come from:

    Cuba unloads their undesirables to Florida, Mexico to Texas and California, and Somalia to Minnesota.
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."