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Traditional Catholic Faith => Catholic Living in the Modern World => Topic started by: LaramieHirsch on January 09, 2019, 06:58:04 PM
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Howdy Greg. I've had a lot of questions about Russia these past couple of years. So I thought I'd make a thread asking you some questions.
One thing I have often wondered: what do the Russians think of the Americans? And specifically, do the Russians ever have any thoughts about struggling right-wing Americans who are sort of trapped in this culture?
Another thing I'd like to ask is if the Russians (or anyone else in the world) believes that America went to the moon. There's been a lot of discussion lately in my circles about "moon landing hoaxes," so I'd like to know what the Russians (the USA's competitor) think of it.
Maybe more questions later, but this is all for now. Glad to be able to talk to you again, by the way. -Laramie
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It's the middle of the night in the British Isles about now (UTC 2:04 am, Jan. 10th).
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Hey ggreg, I have another question. I'd like you to read the article written for DailyCatholic on the 1-year anniversary of 9/11 and tell me if you agree that whoever wrote it is a dupe of the Jєωs or a crypto:
https://www.cathinfo.com/general-discussion/atila-sinke-guimaraes-and-9-11/msg637695/#msg637695
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Some more questions for ggreg.
I assume you're still in disagreement with Church teaching that the Jєωs are a wicked people, and consequently that states they control are wicked.
http://www.suscipedomine.com/forum/index.php?topic=1424.75
How is it, given your liking for Jєωs and the Jєωy Jordan Peterson-Paul Gottfried-Ron Unz-Joe Rogan-Steve Sailer-Jared Taylor-Milo-Nigel Farage alt-right ilk that you would be attracted to the SSPX of the early 80s? That's when you joined the SSPX, correct? At a time when the SSPX was led by the very vocally anti-Jєωιѕн Archbishop Lefebvre and was producing solidly anti-Jєωιѕн literature. What possible attraction could the SSPX of those years hold for a pro-Jєωιѕн guy like you? Something to infiltrate?
I'd be interested to see the "anti-semitic" articles your family member pointed out to Fr. Black: https://www.fisheaters.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=21380
You also say on the above thread that "Catholics just don't do mass graves." Surely after being a member of the SSPX since the early 80s and being on these forums for over a decade you've glanced at enough revisionist material to know that the h0Ɩ0cαųst is a hoax, right?!
You're quite the morpher. You come off as an SJW on that FE thread, but over the last few years you've taken on a Jєωy alt-right face. Jєωs have shown you how to be un-PC on a number of subjects while still being submissive to them, which is basically what the alt-right is all about. Give whitey some vent space, but keep him under our thumb. Always at the hip with Jєωs no matter the shape you take at any given moment.
Again, what do you think about the DailyCatholic link I posted? That guy's a real dummy isn't he, to be so duped by the murderers of the man you claim to worship as God. Or maybe he's not a dummy, but something more sinister.
You must get a good laugh at how easily you blend in on these various trad Catholic forums. Not just blend in, actually, but on SuscipeDomine you're arguably the most popular member. I don't think it's a case of you being particularly clever but of trad Catholics being mind-bogglingly Judaized. You'd think the millisecond they found out that you're not anti-Jєωιѕн that they would immediately go after you. But that doesn't seem to be enough for them. "He has such good financial advice!" "He's so witty!" I could find them quite a few witty people who are good with money who are anti-Jєωιѕн, if they're that desperate for wittiness and common-sense financial advice, plenty of "αnтι-ѕємιтєs" could be found with those attributes. Henry Ford was good with money (though not enough to forsee his foundation being run by them). Perhaps they can read some of his stuff. Joe Sobran outwits you any day of the week. Fr. Feeney's The Point has me slapping my knee all the time. Some of Streicher's stuff is hilarious.
You're constant need to talk about anything and everything to keep Catholics off the Jєω scent is palpable to anyone who's even slightly observant.
Do you have any Jєωιѕн ancestry? Are any of your in-laws Jєωιѕн? You've said you grew up in a very Jєωιѕн neighborhood.
There's being Judaized and then there's something more going on. With you there's definitely more going on.
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Can you go one post without talking about the Jєωs? :laugh1:
When Rudy Giuliani was running for president, Joe Biden called his debates: "A noun, a verb and 9/11", because that was every point he made during the debate.
With rum, it's a noun, a verb, and The Jєωs™.
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Dayam, Rum! Shouldn't you be sayin' all that anti-Jєω/alt-Right stuff to me? Lol! I mean....
How is it, given your liking for Jєωs and the Jєωy Jordan Peterson-Paul Gottfried-Ron Unz-Joe Rogan-Steve Sailer-Jared Taylor-Milo-Nigel Farage alt-right ilk that you would be attracted to
I read/listen to all those guys! And, to ruin my rep here even more, I've been listening to Luke Ford a lot lately.
Didn't you tell me a time or two about Jєωs and the alt-Right? The correlation is much clearer to see right now, two years after the 2016 election cycle.
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While ggreg has his fanbois on SD, there are also quite a few of us who are not favourably impressed. I thought that his influence on that forum was so bad that I arranged for him to leave it.
I'm sure that rum will have an interesting story to account for ggreg and me being archenemies. It will certainly feature lots of Jєωs in it.
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Well, I could care less what problems rum and JayneK have with Greg. I just wanted my questions about Russians answered. I'm not tangled up in intra-Catholic forum soap operas these days, and it often seems I post maybe once a month anymore.
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In fact, just to keep the thread on topic:
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Howdy Greg. I've had a lot of questions about Russia these past couple of years. So I thought I'd make a thread asking you some questions.
One thing I have often wondered: what do the Russians think of the Americans? And specifically, do the Russians ever have any thoughts about struggling right-wing Americans who are sort of trapped in this culture?
Another thing I'd like to ask is if the Russians (or anyone else in the world) believes that America went to the moon. There's been a lot of discussion lately in my circles about "moon landing hoaxes," so I'd like to know what the Russians (the USA's competitor) think of it.
Maybe more questions later, but this is all for now. Glad to be able to talk to you again, by the way. -Laramie
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I read/listen to all those guys! And, to ruin my rep here even more, I've been listening to Luke Ford a lot lately.
Yeah, you, also, listen to, and unite yourself with, pagan heathen witches and their enablers on YouTube because you think that will save America and the white race. This same heathen witch and her male simp enablers allow blasphemous comments against Jesus Christ on their livestreams, but they ban anyone critical of the witch herself. What real trad Catholic allies himself with Godless heathens who, also, allow blasphemy against Our Lord?
How are those "folkbuilding" events going? LOL
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Yeah, you, also, listen to, and unite yourself with, pagan heathen witches and their enablers on YouTube because you think that will save the white race. This same heathen witch and her male simp enablers allow blasphemous comments against Jesus Christ on their livestreams, but they ban anyone critical of the witch herself. What real trad Catholic allies himself with Godless heathens who, also, allow blasphemy against Our Lord?
How are those "folkbuilding" events going? LOL
Ha ha ha! I love this! You're referring to my association with banned Youtuber Davis Aurini! I love it when different elements of my online life come together! Cool.
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Ha ha ha! I love this! You're referring to my association with banned Youtuber Davis Aurini! I love it when different elements of my online life come together! Cool.
I see you avoid the factual points I made...
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I see you avoid the factual points I made...
You've stated your points, and they are now public, online, and out here for everyone to read. Congratulations! :applause:
You haven't asked me anything, asked for any clarifications, or showed any kind of genuine interest in where I'm coming from. So, why should I bother carrying on with you?
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Howdy Greg. I've had a lot of questions about Russia these past couple of years. So I thought I'd make a thread asking you some questions.
One thing I have often wondered: what do the Russians think of the Americans? And specifically, do the Russians ever have any thoughts about struggling right-wing Americans who are sort of trapped in this culture?
Just as the typical American who has not bothered to investigate Russia thinks they are still "Commies" or that Putin is motivated purely by self gain, because they have lazily taken the media line, likewise the typical Russian probably thinks that most right wing Americans don't think of themselves as trapped. They would typically think of America as a rich, militaristic, dominant super power where the rich and middle class dominate and the poor are in a worse position than the poor in Russia.
They wouldn't understand Trump, other than he was a protest vote and think of him a quixotic.
The religious Russians and those who associate with them plus the English speaking Russians who tend to be the well educated under 40 and or women (who are overrepresented in language schools) would understand that there is a large contingent of people in the west who know that their governments are lying. These people both care and can read the positive comments about Russia and Putin on forums and comments section on YouTube and the like.
Another thing I'd like to ask is if the Russians (or anyone else in the world) believes that America went to the moon. There's been a lot of discussion lately in my circles about "moon landing hoaxes," so I'd like to know what the Russians (the USA's competitor) think of it.
All Russians I know believe the USA went to the moon. I have never met a Russian flat earther though they probably exist. Russians do hold to some pretty bizarre cօռspιʀαcιҽs theories, but usually ones involving Russia. They are a superstitious bunch.
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Thanks for the reply, Greg.
I was also wondering if you had any suggestions for good platforms (forum/social networking/blog?) for interacting with Russians interested in talking to Westerners or Americans?
I've had a soft spot for Russians since the 90s. Love their literature, the Russian mind, and I respect their history. I was on a Russian forum once a couple of years ago--I can't remember the name of it anymore or even find the link to it in my records--but they didn't seem to want any Americans in their midst. It was enlightening.
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Rum, you appear to already know what I think so I am not sure how explaining what I think will help.
I am neither pro Jєωιѕн nor anti-Jєωιѕн. I have travelled most of the world (113 countries at the last count) and met and interacted with many cultures. Some like Pakistan, Palestine, China I have found to be disgusting countries with many disgusting and uncivilised habits which appears to be a trait in their people. Other cultures I have prefered. I thought Burma was great for example, really liked the place, so if they are slaughtering Muslims then I am figuring they must be pretty pissed off with them and have a good reason for it. I found Burmese to be a naturally virtuous bunch of people and like a land that time forgot.
Iranians are also very nice people. I have never met an Iranian I did not like. It is a fabulous place for a long holiday. If God was going to convert a country to Catholicism, Iran would be my top choice. I would move there in a heartbeat.
No Jєωιѕн in me to the best of my knowledge. Scots, English, Belgian going back 5 generations at least.
My experience of the Jєωs I have interacted with has generally been positive. They are a hard working bunch, worldy for sure, myopic for sure, they tend to neglect their children emotionally, (similar to rich Italians and Spanish and Greeks), but they also run successful solvent businesses that employ a lot of gentiles. Plenty of them are high IQ and industrious. Those are very useful people to know if you want to live in a 7 bedroom house and have money to raise a family.
The Jєωs who run Hollywood like Harvey Weinstein and the other liberal Jєωs I don't like.
There is a class in Israeli Jєω I tend not to get on with, those grasping in the Tel Aviv technology parks. But the main reason for this is that they often want something for nothing and behave in a very arrogant manner. But the Germans are like this and the French are even worse. My experience with Israelis, in general has been good. I have one very good conservative Jєωιѕн friend who lives in Natanya. My "boss" is a Jєωιѕн athiest Trump supporter originally from Odessa and one of the nicest, most honest and most loyal people I know and his son is a very good friend of mine also and a naturally virtuous person. Does not sleep around with women and has not being corrupted by the sɛҳuąƖised culture, which today is a rare thing in a secular man.
If he was a Catholic he would be just the sort of man one would want his daughter to marry.
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Thx to you both. I'd love to know about the Russian culture.
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I think their Russian Facebook equivalent is called onaklassniki and there is a competitor that has a V at the start of the name.
Those are the main two.
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Thanks for the reply, Greg.
I was also wondering if you had any suggestions for good platforms (forum/social networking/blog?) for interacting with Russians interested in talking to Westerners or Americans?
I've had a soft spot for Russians since the 90s. Love their literature, the Russian mind, and I respect their history. I was on a Russian forum once a couple of years ago--I can't remember the name of it anymore or even find the link to it in my records--but they didn't seem to want any Americans in their midst. It was enlightening.
I lived in Russia, 1993 and 2002 to 2003. 2 years total.
During the 1990s there were Americans who came over and involved themselves in very corrupt practices in the oil, banking and mining sectors. They went to Moscow nightclubs, bribed officials and politicians and generally behaved in a very arrogant way. English language newspapers mocked the Russians and treated them like sheep for sheering. There was an international crowd of people all seeing what they could get from a country. Yeltsin was a drunk and allowed this all to happen. They country was bankrupt and everyone with drive was grasping to get ahead, but the best and biggest graspers were the expats, mainly populated by Americans, though it was an international contingent. Nobody paid taxes, it was a free for all.
Russians were left with the impression that America does not care about spreading freedom just enriching itself. They were told not to trust America by their school teachers during times of communism and Americans having a tendancy to be very unsympathetic world travellers and not behaving like Romans in Rome played into all of those stereotypes.
The 1990s was the chance to repair international relations and America blew it by letting their most grasping people come over and not caring about their behavior. Expanding NATO and surrounding Russia made things even worse.
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The 1990s was the chance to repair international relations and America blew it by letting their most grasping people come over and not caring about their behavior. Expanding NATO and surrounding Russia made things even worse.
I know. Such a damned shame. I blame the Trotskyites.
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You and LaramieHirsch and JayneK are total frauds. PaxVobis as well?
Fun. Tell me how. What cause am I betraying?
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I know. Such a damned shame. I blame the Trotskyites.
Are u a Stalinist? -- i am just aksing? :confused:
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Are u a Stalinist? -- i am just aksing? :confused:
Must it be either/or? I'm neither. They are both a subspecies of Communist.
Trotskeyites morphed into what we know as the Neo-Cons of today. Trotskeyites desire not a nationalist communism--as Stalin wanted. Rather, they want a cultural world revolution in order to attain the dream of Marx. They are globalists. And this is why Neo-Cons have always supported the imperialist idea of "making the world safe for democracy."
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They country was bankrupt and everyone with drive was grasping to get ahead, but the best and biggest graspers were the expats, mainly populated by Americans, though it was an international contingent. Nobody paid taxes, it was a free for all.
The 1990s was the chance to repair international relations and America blew it by letting their most grasping people come over and not caring about their behavior. Expanding NATO and surrounding Russia made things even worse.
Harvard Jєωs Loot Russia
RUSSIAN COMMUNISM FELL in 1991. The Jєωs could not wait to sink their greedy claws into the new scenario in Russia.
Jeffrey Sachs, who at that time was a Professor of Economics at Harvard University, was one of these Jєωs.
Jeffrey Sachs saw an opportunity that he and his Jєωιѕн buddies just could not pass up. The Jєω Jeffrey Sachs and his Jєωιѕн buddies, set themselves up as advisors and investors to “help” Russia from their perches of the financial and political world of the West.
But their Jєωιѕн agenda was not to help Russia, but to rape Russia once again, just as their Jєωιѕн counterparts did with their international socialist program when sovietizing Russia in the early 20th Century.
But now, Jeffrey Sachs and his Jєωιѕн buddies were going to do it with their international capitalist system. Privatization was both theirs and Russia’s new watchword.
Sachs teamed up with his Harvard colleague, the Jєω David Lipton, and Yegor Gaidar, a Russian Jєω, who became Yeltsin’s first prime minister.
Sachs, Lipton, and Gaidar initiated a plan which they called economic shock therapy to eliminate subsidies and price controls that had kept the Russian economy stable for decades. What was the result of this shock therapy? Hyperinflation.
Just as planned, the hyperinflation wiped out the capital reserves of Russian factories, banks, utilities, and all other institutions. This eliminated any chance for real Russian competition in the bidding for Russian assets which was about to begin.
The Russian institutions and manufacturing facilities were now eager to turn their assets into cash, playing into the hands of Sachs, Lipton, and Gaidar Because the value of rubles was now at an all time low, they wanted Western currency.
Under the cover of international banking loans, (Jєωιѕн bankers of course), Sachs and friends began to buy out Russian companies at next-to-nothing prices.
THE Jєωιѕн OLIGARCHS OF RUSSIA, as they began to be called, did not completely get away with their looting.
Here is a list of some of these Jєωs who looted Russia and their resultant status:
1. Jeffrey Sachs: After being exposed for making a “killing” off of the privatization of Russia, he was allowed by Harvard to quietly leave and take a professorship at the Jєωιѕн-run Columbia University in NY.
2. Yegor Gaidar: In 1993 he came under attack by the Russian people for his alliance with Sachs. Fearing a Putin investigation, he fled Russia and presently lives in Ireland.
3. Boris Berzovsky: After grabbing many media institutions and a major television station during the looting in the early 1990’s, Putin finally caught up with him and initiated an investigation. He then fled to England.
4. Vladimir Gusinksy. He took control of many Russian banks during the looting. He was the leader of the Russian Jєωιѕн Congress. Now in exile in Greece, the Russian Courts are trying to have him extradited for his shady business dealings.
5. Mikhail Khodorkovsky: He bought majority stakes in Yukos oil company for practically nothing during the looting. Putin caught up with him and put him in jail in 2005.
ALL OF THESE JєωS BELONG IN JAIL, and for that matter, all of the Jєωs who are “looting” our once Christian culture with their Anti-Christian activities.
I grew up as a Jєω and I wish to inform all of my readers that most Jєωs care only about themselves and nothing for the Gentile societies in which they reside or can make a profit from.
What is the answer to this Jєωιѕн plague that is rotting our society?The only answer is for Jєωs to repent of their solidarity with Anti-Christian Judaism and become Christians.
Then they can use their energies and influence for Jesus Christ rather than for Satan. I did it! Why can’t they?
http://www.realJєωnews.com/?p=57
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Must it be either/or? I'm neither. They are both a subspecies of Communist.
Trotskeyites morphed into what we know as the Neo-Cons of today. Trotskeyites desire not a nationalist communism--as Stalin wanted. Rather, they want a cultural world revolution in order to attain the dream of Marx. They are globalists. And this is why Neo-Cons have always supported the imperialist idea of "making the world safe for democracy."
Our enemies are legion. The Crisis is the way it is because it is a rolling avalanche of nearly every single antichrist movement in history, starting with the first heresies to the writing of the тαℓмυd up through today. So Judaism, Islam, Eastern Schismatics, Protestantism, Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, Zionism, Marxism, Communism, Modernism, Neopaganism, Satanism, witchcraft, and the many nations who never once converted, are all still coming at the Church with their own strains of Hell. Stalin acknowledged the need for Soviet Russia to have an ally in the Middle East and thus, Israel was first recognized by Stalin's Russia. Then of course Russia being Russia, starts fomenting war even with their own "friends."
Putin claims communism is like a primitive extract of the Bible, he compares Lenin's hellish plastic corpse display to holy relic: https://themoscowtimes.com/news/putin-compares-communism-christianity-60181
The ongoing celebration of all things Stalin/Lenin during their victory day parade: https://www.cathinfo.com/politics-and-world-leaders/the-fatima-re-education-project/
He tells the Muslims that Orthodoxy has more in common with them than with Catholicism: https://risu.org.ua/en/index/monitoring/society_digest/39697/
And who could overlook his commissioning of the world's largest Jєωιѕн Museum in Moscow? http://Jєωιѕн-heritage-europe.eu/focus/museums/huge-new-Jєωιѕн-museum-opens-in-moscow/ ****Note the emphasis on Multiculturalism here!
And let's not forget how he praised the talents of Elton John here: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/putin-praises-elton-john-rules-672461
Can't we see beyond the puppet show?
Throughout the entire globe there are two cities: the city of God and the city of the world. It's always been true that citizens of one city can be found in another, though the idea of a truly Catholic Kingdom has gone extinct over the past two hundred years. So now it's a universal situation where Catholics have to contend with life in anti-Christian places. All it seems we have now are Republics or Caliphates with an ever decreasing tolerance for the Catholic way of life and belief.
But if there was one city built on seven hills, one city who draws all the world's heresies unto herself, the one who plainly and openly lies to everyone she speaks to, who styles herself as the Third Rome, the one like Pagan Rome before her took all conquered religions under her pantheon, the one who is drunk with the blood of Martyrs, it is Moscow. And now Cossacks in cassocks are having their horses drink from the fountains of St. Peter's. Since many desperately need a hero among thieves, they will become their propagandists even if it means becoming a poor facsimile. Don't be one of them.
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And then he goes on to explain what he thinks, avoiding all my questions but the one about Jєωιѕн ancestry (but not family members).
I've met lots of Jєωs that flatter my ego as well, but then the devil comes in many forms.
You and LaramieHirsch and JayneK are total frauds. PaxVobis as well? I haven't read much of his stuff.
Nobody in my family is married to a Jєω or descended from a Jєω to the best of my knowledge. That includes the extended family. We have a French Spaniard, a Russian, a HongKong Chinese, a Roman Italian, a Philippina, and a bunch of Brits.
"Total fraud" who has gone to the old Mass since 1978 and had 6 children?
That is a kinda inconvenient way to live my life - just to mislead a few nutters on the internet?
Maybe you should check my teeth in case I was replaced with a double in 1969.
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Harvard Jєωs Loot Russia
You forgot Bill Browder.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Browder
At least 2-5 in your list are Russian citizens.
I met Browder in late 1993. He was an utter corrupt bastard of the highest order.
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"Total fraud" who has gone to the old Mass since 1978 and had 6 children?
That is a kinda inconvenient way to live my life - just to mislead a few nutters on the internet?
There is more to being a traditional Catholic than going to the old Mass and having an above average number of children. Being Catholic means accepting the Faith handed on from our ancestors and depending on prayer. You don't talk about faith and prayer. Your posts are virtually always about money and other worldly matters, to a point that it is difficult to tell you are Catholic from your posts. You don't even identify yourself as a Catholic most of the time. On Suscipe Domine you filled in your religion as "Kung Fu".
I have been reading your posts for around 10 years now and I still have no idea why you attend the traditional Mass. Is it force of habit? I do not recall even seeing anything to indicate that you care about it. You express more passion when you describe repairing washing machines. Do you believe the Creed? Do you pray the Rosary? Do you love Our Lady? I've seen thousands of your posts and do not recall any mention of such things.
There are some people who are not comfortable with such topics, feeling that they are private and personal. I have wondered if you are like that. But it is not simply that you avoid talking about spiritual matters, you mock the people who do. You despise the Catholics who are not worldly like yourself. You call us names like "nutters" and "tossers". You keep posting about what failures most trads are and looking down on us for not being a success like you.
Your morality comes from the world rather than the Church. You argue in favour of lying because "everybody does it" and "it is necessary to get by in the world". You keep referring to the sins and failures of some priests as an excuse to deny the Church has any authority over you. You never admit to being wrong. You never apologize. You are mean and you are vulgar. You strongly condemn sins that you are not tempted to commit while you do not even acknowledge the sins that you might commit are sins.
While rum appears to be rather unbalanced and obsessed with a single topic, I can understand where his "fraud" accusation comes from. You present yourself as some sort of judge of trads due to all the time you have been attending the old Mass, but you do not seem to think like a Catholic. You behave like the stereotype of a Jєω, worldly and focused on money. That is actually considerably worse than having Jєωιѕн blood.
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People now want to derail this thread and use it as an occasion to attack Greg.
As far as I'm concerned, Greg has answered the questions of my original post, and I consider the thread closed.
As for rum and Quid Retribuam Domino's various accusations against me, start your own thread and get specific or get a life. I'm tired of Trad Cat purity spirals, and frankly, it's why I'm scarce these days.
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I agree it should be closed.