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Re: Thread4Greg: An Englishman's Perspective on Russian Perspective
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2019, 03:07:13 AM »
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  • Rum, you appear to already know what I think so I am not sure how explaining what I think will help.

    I am neither pro Jewish nor anti-Jewish.  I have travelled most of the world (113 countries at the last count) and met and interacted with many cultures.  Some like Pakistan, Palestine, China I have found to be disgusting countries with many disgusting and uncivilised habits which appears to  be a trait in their people.  Other cultures I have prefered.  I thought Burma was great for example, really liked the place, so if they are slaughtering Muslims then I am figuring they must be pretty pissed off with them and have a good reason for it.  I found Burmese to be a naturally virtuous bunch of people and like a land that time forgot.

    Iranians are also very nice people.  I have never met an Iranian I did not like.  It is a fabulous place for a long holiday.  If God was going to convert a country to Catholicism, Iran would be my top choice.  I would move there in a heartbeat.

    No Jewish in me to the best of my knowledge.  Scots, English, Belgian going back 5 generations at least.

    My experience of the Jews I have interacted with has generally been positive.  They are a hard working bunch, worldy for sure, myopic for sure, they tend to neglect their children emotionally, (similar to rich Italians and Spanish and Greeks), but they also run successful solvent businesses that employ a lot of gentiles.  Plenty of them are high IQ and industrious.  Those are very useful people to know if you want to live in a 7 bedroom house and have money to raise a family.

    The Jews who run Hollywood like Harvey Weinstein and the other liberal Jews I don't like.

    There is a class in Israeli Jew I tend not to get on with, those grasping in the Tel Aviv technology parks.  But the main reason for this is that they often want something for nothing and behave in a very arrogant manner.  But the Germans are like this and the French are even worse.  My experience with Israelis, in general has been good.  I have one very good conservative Jewish friend who lives in Natanya.  My "boss" is a Jewish athiest Trump supporter originally from Odessa and one of the nicest, most honest and most loyal people I know and his son is a very good friend of mine also and a naturally virtuous person.  Does not sleep around with women and has not being corrupted by the sexualised culture, which today is a rare thing in a secular man.

    If he was a Catholic he would be just the sort of man one would want his daughter to marry.


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    Re: Thread4Greg: An Englishman's Perspective on Russian Perspective
    « Reply #16 on: January 12, 2019, 03:07:41 AM »
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  • Thx to you both.  I'd love to know about the Russian culture.


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    Re: Thread4Greg: An Englishman's Perspective on Russian Perspective
    « Reply #17 on: January 12, 2019, 03:09:57 AM »
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  • I think their Russian Facebook equivalent is called onaklassniki and there is a competitor that has a V at the start of the name.

    Those are the main two.

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    « Reply #18 on: January 12, 2019, 03:23:21 AM »
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  • Thanks for the reply, Greg.  

    I was also wondering if you had any suggestions for good platforms (forum/social networking/blog?) for interacting with Russians interested in talking to Westerners or Americans?  

    I've had a soft spot for Russians since the 90s.  Love their literature, the Russian mind, and I respect their history.  I was on a Russian forum once a couple of years ago--I can't remember the name of it anymore or even find the link to it in my records--but they didn't seem to want any Americans in their midst.  It was enlightening.  
    I lived in Russia, 1993 and 2002 to 2003.  2 years total.
    During the 1990s there were Americans who came over and involved themselves in very corrupt practices in the oil, banking and mining sectors.  They went to Moscow nightclubs, bribed officials and politicians and generally behaved in a very arrogant way.  English language newspapers mocked the Russians and treated them like sheep for sheering.  There was an international crowd of people all seeing what they could get from a country.  Yeltsin was a drunk and allowed this all to happen. They country was bankrupt and everyone with drive was grasping to get ahead, but the best and biggest graspers were the expats, mainly populated by Americans, though it was an international contingent.  Nobody paid taxes, it was a free for all.

    Russians were left with the impression that America does not care about spreading freedom just enriching itself.  They were told not to trust America by their school teachers during times of communism and Americans having a tendancy to be very unsympathetic world travellers and not behaving like Romans in Rome played into all of those stereotypes.

    The 1990s was the chance to repair international relations and America blew it by letting their most grasping people come over and not caring about their behavior.  Expanding NATO and surrounding Russia made things even worse.

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    Re: Thread4Greg: An Englishman's Perspective on Russian Perspective
    « Reply #19 on: January 12, 2019, 09:28:18 PM »
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  • The 1990s was the chance to repair international relations and America blew it by letting their most grasping people come over and not caring about their behavior.  Expanding NATO and surrounding Russia made things even worse.
    I know.  Such a damned shame.  I blame the Trotskyites.  
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    Re: Thread4Greg: An Englishman's Perspective on Russian Perspective
    « Reply #20 on: January 13, 2019, 10:12:15 PM »
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  • You and LaramieHirsch and JayneK are total frauds. PaxVobis as well?
    Fun.  Tell me how.  What cause am I betraying?
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    Re: Thread4Greg: An Englishman's Perspective on Russian Perspective
    « Reply #21 on: January 13, 2019, 10:35:37 PM »
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  • I know.  Such a damned shame.  I blame the Trotskyites.  
    Are u a Stalinist? -- i am just aksing? :confused:
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'

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    Re: Thread4Greg: An Englishman's Perspective on Russian Perspective
    « Reply #22 on: January 14, 2019, 12:02:24 AM »
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  • Are u a Stalinist? -- i am just aksing? :confused:
    Must it be either/or?  I'm neither.  They are both a subspecies of Communist.  

    Trotskeyites morphed into what we know as the Neo-Cons of today.  Trotskeyites desire not a nationalist communism--as Stalin wanted.  Rather, they want a cultural world revolution in order to attain the dream of Marx.  They are globalists.  And this is why Neo-Cons have always supported the imperialist idea of "making the world safe for democracy."
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    Re: Thread4Greg: An Englishman's Perspective on Russian Perspective
    « Reply #23 on: January 14, 2019, 04:10:37 AM »
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  • They country was bankrupt and everyone with drive was grasping to get ahead, but the best and biggest graspers were the expats, mainly populated by Americans, though it was an international contingent.  Nobody paid taxes, it was a free for all.

    The 1990s was the chance to repair international relations and America blew it by letting their most grasping people come over and not caring about their behavior.  Expanding NATO and surrounding Russia made things even worse.

    Harvard Jews Loot Russia

    RUSSIAN COMMUNISM FELL in 1991. The Jews could not wait to sink their greedy claws into the new scenario in Russia.

    Jeffrey Sachs, who at that time was a Professor of Economics at Harvard University, was one of these Jews.

    Jeffrey Sachs saw an opportunity that he and his Jewish buddies just could not pass up. The Jew Jeffrey Sachs and his Jewish buddies, set themselves up as advisors and investors to “help” Russia from their perches of the financial and political world of the West.

    But their Jewish agenda was not to help Russia, but to rape Russia once again, just as their Jewish counterparts did with their international socialist program when sovietizing Russia in the early 20th Century.

    But now, Jeffrey Sachs and his Jewish buddies were going to do it with their international capitalist system. Privatization was both theirs and Russia’s new watchword.

    Sachs teamed up with his Harvard colleague, the Jew David Lipton, and Yegor Gaidar, a Russian Jew, who became Yeltsin’s first prime minister.

    Sachs, Lipton, and Gaidar initiated a plan which they called economic shock therapy to eliminate subsidies and price controls that had kept the Russian economy stable for decades. What was the result of this shock therapy? Hyperinflation.

    Just as planned, the hyperinflation wiped out the capital reserves of Russian factories, banks, utilities, and all other institutions. This eliminated any chance for real Russian competition in the bidding for Russian assets which was about to begin.

    The Russian institutions and manufacturing facilities were now eager to turn their assets into cash, playing into the hands of Sachs, Lipton, and Gaidar Because the value of rubles was now at an all time low, they wanted Western currency.

    Under the cover of international banking loans, (Jewish bankers of course), Sachs and friends began to buy out Russian companies at next-to-nothing prices.

    THE JEWISH OLIGARCHS OF RUSSIA, as they began to be called, did not completely get away with their looting.

    Here is a list of some of these Jews who looted Russia and their resultant status:

    1. Jeffrey Sachs: After being exposed for making a “killing” off of the privatization of Russia, he was allowed by Harvard to quietly leave and take a professorship at the Jewish-run Columbia University in NY.

    2. Yegor Gaidar: In 1993 he came under attack by the Russian people for his alliance with Sachs. Fearing a Putin investigation, he fled Russia and presently lives in Ireland.

    3. Boris Berzovsky: After grabbing many media institutions and a major television station during the looting in the early 1990’s, Putin finally caught up with him and initiated an investigation. He then fled to England.

    4. Vladimir Gusinksy. He took control of many Russian banks during the looting. He was the leader of the Russian Jewish Congress. Now in exile in Greece, the Russian Courts are trying to have him extradited for his shady business dealings.

    5. Mikhail Khodorkovsky: He bought majority stakes in Yukos oil company for practically nothing during the looting. Putin caught up with him and put him in jail in 2005.

    ALL OF THESE JEWS BELONG IN JAIL, and for that matter, all of the Jews who are “looting” our once Christian culture with their Anti-Christian activities.

    I grew up as a Jew and I wish to inform all of my readers that most Jews care only about themselves and nothing for the Gentile societies in which they reside or can make a profit from.

    What is the answer to this Jewish plague that is rotting our society?The only answer is for Jews to repent of their solidarity with Anti-Christian Judaism and become Christians.

    Then they can use their energies and influence for Jesus Christ rather than for Satan. I did it! Why can’t they?

    http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=57
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    Re: Thread4Greg: An Englishman's Perspective on Russian Perspective
    « Reply #24 on: January 14, 2019, 08:06:41 AM »
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  • Must it be either/or?  I'm neither.  They are both a subspecies of Communist.  

    Trotskeyites morphed into what we know as the Neo-Cons of today.  Trotskeyites desire not a nationalist communism--as Stalin wanted.  Rather, they want a cultural world revolution in order to attain the dream of Marx.  They are globalists.  And this is why Neo-Cons have always supported the imperialist idea of "making the world safe for democracy."

    Our enemies are legion. The Crisis is the way it is because it is a rolling avalanche of nearly every single antichrist movement in history, starting with the first heresies to the writing of the Talmud up through today. So Judaism, Islam, Eastern Schismatics, Protestantism, Freemasonry, Zionism, Marxism, Communism, Modernism, Neopaganism, Satanism, witchcraft, and the many nations who never once converted, are all still coming at the Church with their own strains of Hell. Stalin acknowledged the need for Soviet Russia to have an ally in the Middle East and thus, Israel was first recognized by Stalin's Russia. Then of course Russia being Russia, starts fomenting war even with their own "friends."

    Putin claims communism is like a primitive extract of the Bible, he compares Lenin's hellish plastic corpse display to holy relic: https://themoscowtimes.com/news/putin-compares-communism-christianity-60181

    The ongoing celebration of all things Stalin/Lenin during their victory day parade: https://www.cathinfo.com/politics-and-world-leaders/the-fatima-re-education-project/

    He tells the Muslims that Orthodoxy has more in common with them than with Catholicism: https://risu.org.ua/en/index/monitoring/society_digest/39697/

    And who could overlook his commissioning of the world's largest Jewish Museum in Moscow? http://jewish-heritage-europe.eu/focus/museums/huge-new-jewish-museum-opens-in-moscow/   ****Note the emphasis on Multiculturalism here!

    And let's not forget how he praised the talents of Elton John here: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/putin-praises-elton-john-rules-672461

    Can't we see beyond the puppet show?

    Throughout the entire globe there are two cities: the city of God and the city of the world. It's always been true that citizens of one city can be found in another, though the idea of a truly Catholic Kingdom has gone extinct over the past two hundred years.  So now it's a universal situation where Catholics have to contend with life in anti-Christian places. All it seems we have now are Republics or Caliphates with an ever decreasing tolerance for the Catholic way of life and belief.

    But if there was one city built on seven hills, one city who draws all the world's heresies unto herself, the one who plainly and openly lies to everyone she speaks to, who styles herself as the Third Rome, the one like Pagan Rome before her took all conquered religions under her pantheon, the one who is drunk with the blood of Martyrs, it is Moscow. And now Cossacks in cassocks are having their horses drink from the fountains of St. Peter's. Since many desperately need a hero among thieves, they will become their propagandists even if it means becoming a poor facsimile. Don't be one of them.


    Fortuna finem habet.

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    Re: Thread4Greg: An Englishman's Perspective on Russian Perspective
    « Reply #25 on: January 14, 2019, 03:44:24 PM »
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  • And then he goes on to explain what he thinks, avoiding all my questions but the one about Jewish ancestry (but not family members).

    I've met lots of Jews that flatter my ego as well, but then the devil comes in many forms.

    You and LaramieHirsch and JayneK are total frauds. PaxVobis as well? I haven't read much of his stuff.
    Nobody in my family is married to a Jew or descended from a Jew to the best of my knowledge.  That includes the extended family.  We have a French Spaniard, a Russian, a HongKong Chinese, a Roman Italian, a Philippina, and a bunch of Brits. 
    "Total fraud" who has gone to the old Mass since 1978 and had 6 children?
    That is a kinda inconvenient way to live my life - just to mislead a few nutters on the internet?
    Maybe you should check my teeth in case I was replaced with a double in 1969.


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    Re: Thread4Greg: An Englishman's Perspective on Russian Perspective
    « Reply #26 on: January 14, 2019, 03:57:52 PM »
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  • Harvard Jews Loot Russia

    You forgot Bill Browder.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Browder
    At least 2-5 in your list are Russian citizens.
    I met Browder in late 1993.  He was an utter corrupt bastard of the highest order.

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    Re: Thread4Greg: An Englishman's Perspective on Russian Perspective
    « Reply #27 on: January 14, 2019, 05:14:28 PM »
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  • "Total fraud" who has gone to the old Mass since 1978 and had 6 children?
    That is a kinda inconvenient way to live my life - just to mislead a few nutters on the internet?
    There is more to being a traditional Catholic than going to the old Mass and having an above average number of children.  Being Catholic means accepting the Faith handed on from our ancestors and depending on prayer.  You don't talk about faith and prayer.  Your posts are virtually always about money and other worldly matters, to a point that it is difficult to tell you are Catholic from your posts.  You don't even identify yourself as a Catholic most of the time.  On Suscipe Domine you filled in your religion as "Kung Fu".

    I have been reading your posts for around 10 years now and I still have no idea why you attend the traditional Mass.  Is it force of habit?  I do not recall even seeing anything to indicate that you care about it.  You express more passion when you describe repairing washing machines.  Do you believe the Creed?  Do you pray the Rosary?  Do you love Our Lady?  I've seen thousands of your posts and do not recall any mention of such things.

    There are some people who are not comfortable with such topics, feeling that they are private and personal.  I have wondered if you are like that.  But it is not simply that you avoid talking about spiritual matters, you mock the people who do.  You despise the Catholics who are not worldly like yourself.  You call us names like "nutters" and "tossers".  You keep posting about what failures most trads are and looking down on us for not being a success like you.

    Your morality comes from the world rather than the Church.  You argue in favour of lying because "everybody does it" and "it is necessary to get by in the world".  You keep referring to the sins and failures of some priests as an excuse to deny the Church has any authority over you.  You never admit to being wrong.  You never apologize.  You are mean and you are vulgar. You strongly condemn sins that you are not tempted to commit while you do not even acknowledge the sins that you might commit are sins.

    While rum appears to be rather unbalanced and obsessed with a single topic,  I can understand where his "fraud" accusation comes from.  You present yourself as some sort of judge of trads due to all the time you have been attending the old Mass, but you do not seem to think like a Catholic.  You behave like the stereotype of a Jew, worldly and focused on money.  That is actually considerably worse than having Jewish blood.

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    Re: Thread4Greg: An Englishman's Perspective on Russian Perspective
    « Reply #28 on: January 14, 2019, 07:01:45 PM »
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  • People now want to derail this thread and use it as an occasion to attack Greg.  

    As far as I'm concerned, Greg has answered the questions of my original post, and I consider the thread closed.  

    As for rum and Quid Retribuam Domino's various accusations against me, start your own thread and get specific or get a life.  I'm tired of Trad Cat purity spirals, and frankly, it's why I'm scarce these days.
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    Re: Thread4Greg: An Englishman's Perspective on Russian Perspective
    « Reply #29 on: January 14, 2019, 08:32:23 PM »
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  • I agree it should be closed.
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