No posts, just lots of views. I'll take that as a silent majority approval of the video. Its nothing to do really with intricate theological issues, just prayer and Catholic life.

I saw the other day on a cable channel called "H2" an offshoot to the History Channel a show about Fatima and the Third Secret, under some series about Nostradomus. "Br". Michael Dimond was one of those interviewed. He came across as intelligent and articulate. I was surprised how young he is (or appeared in that segment). All things considered as anything from the History Channel or even its sister, H2 it was very well balanced.

"Prayer in Solitude"


This is valuable and all here should check this out, if you have not already... I know its old but I remember watching over a year ago and was floored.




Comments, opinions?

John Paul and Benedict and Vatican II said some very true, admirable and beautiful things.  C'mon, why don't you just give 'em a listen?  

PiO- My DC Brother! Don't despair! You're right- this is a ploy of the devil to ruin everyone! The other thread I started on these guys was meant for another person on Cathinfo (I think you know who), this may be why you were defending them here, but now I fear where you may be at spiritually. Forgive me if I caused this in any way.

May I?

Pio- the fact of the matter is, that, sadly, you're right. We can not 'trust' anyone outright. Just like we condemn the NO's for blindly trusting the NO church, we can not go trust the SSPX, CMRI, MHFM, anyone in our day and age.

And, to me, the "party-lining'... well this is why I'm so against it. Its useless and, in my opinion, counter productive. Party lining is when people start defending various groups (sspx, CMRI) or positions (sedevecantism, anti-sedevecantism, BOD, etc.) without any possibility of doing any real good; there's never any progress. Not only that, but to blindly follow any group or priest, in any-and-all things is wrong; we become just as blind as those we call out to in the NO.

The only party-lining one should be doing in this state of punishment our Church is in, is to defend endlessly the True Church, Her teachings and to developing an interior life, where one can hear God. I don't think anyone will go to hell for doing these things, right? And there's not much to despair in, if we are focused on Truth, as given to us through Christ and his Saints. But if we focus, endlessly, on who's right and who's wrong, scandal, politics, defending the unknowable and 'up for debate' issues, well this isn't really as secure a position I think.

I don't think you're doing this in this case of MHFM, but I do think you're possibly not in a good place right now my brother.I suggest forgetting any label (CMRI, SSPX, etc) and go receive some sacraments. Use this feeling (which I presume you to have) as a tool during advent. Remember how the OT saints must have felt, needing to believe in the coming of a man (who wasn't even born into physical existence!), and as Christmas approaches, perhaps remove yourself from discussing these matters and focusing on spiritual things.

I like to use Hobbeldehoy as an example, because while he's a sede, and I'm not, he is 'Mr. Anti-party-line'; yet he seems so focused on the interior life, and the related writings of the great theologians. You can really see when he's dragged into a situation that involves politics or scandal, it discourages him immensely, and he goes into his own dark place, and I think that's why he tries to avoid it. But when he's sharing his good library with us here, and helping individuals have access to beautiful teachings of the Church, all is well; and I assume he's also more focused, mentally and spiritually, on things which are not up for debate, and this is a spiritual benefit.

I am the least able, or worthy, person to make comments to you, but I do care about you as a brother, and know that our position isn't all that great. I mean- you're a Jєωιѕн convert to Catholicism for crying out loud! I'm sure this didn't happen by 'chance'. I would imagine our Lord has special plans, and continues to have them, and has guided your life thus far. I will make a special intention for you during mass today and include you in my rosary brother. I'm sorry if any of my actions caused you to go down this route.

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I like to use Hobbeldehoy as an example, because while he's a sede, and I'm not, he is 'Mr. Anti-party-line'; yet he seems so focused on the interior life, and the related writings of the great theologians. You can really see when he's dragged into a situation that involves politics or scandal, it discourages him immensely, and he goes into his own dark place, and I think that's why he tries to avoid it. But when he's sharing his good library with us here, and helping individuals have access to beautiful teachings of the Church, all is well; and I assume he's also more focused, mentally and spiritually, on things which are not up for debate, and this is a spiritual benefit.

I appreciate that Hobbledehoy is a mystic and has nourished his spiritual life, this is all too rare today.  But there is nothing wrong with sticking up for a correct theological position; and that is what sedevacantism is.

There is a kind of attitude out there like "Ah, it doesn't matter, SSPX or sedevacantism, we're all Catholic."  This wishy-washiness will never, ever be something God can accuse me of ( although He will be able to accuse me of almost everything else that is bad ).  Do you think that Gallicanism doesn't matter, because Gallicans were all Catholics?  No, it matters.  It matters a lot.  The Church is without any stain of error, ANY error, not just heresy.  SSPX isn't quite heretical; neither were Gallicans.  But there are dangerous implications to their errors.  

SSPX is erroneous in its theology and it gets worse all the time, now they say that the New Rite of Consecration is valid... They are helping to wipe out the priesthood with things like this.  

Question for Raoul: Why do you claim the SSPX has "erroneous theology" that has "dangerous implications" yet you also claim the SSPX is not quite heretical?

What would the SSPX have to do in your opinion to qualify them as heretical?

Though I believe, yes, we are indeed all Catholic, how many people have you seen changed positions from dishonest debate on websites? (and sorry, its mostly all dishonest on internet forums nowadays. Now, honest discussion is a different thing, but I think people are more scandalized and sin more (through calumny, etc) when they go with party-lines. Plenty of SSPX do it, plenty of CMRI do it, I've done it (regrettably), I think most do it.

Here's a challenge- if you convince Matt (the forum owner or even Caminus) of your positions, I'll shut up. Until then, you have to admit that these times aren't as clear as they might otherwise be, and there is going to be discord because we have no leadership from Rome. So simply saying, "the SSPX is wrong cause I said so" (which is essentially what you're implying), is fluff (hence the Matt Challenge). Same for those who say CMRI is wrong.

If you can determine your sacraments are valid, and focus on your interior life, thats it. And no, it doesn't matter if you go to CMRI or SSPX. Get the sacraments. Go home after if you have to, I'm not saying you have to take lessons from your priest (though its good to find a good spiritual director). Attending this or that priestly fraternity doesn't immediately mean you ascribe to 100% of its positions, though usually this is the case more often than not.

In other words, "everybody is OK as long as they have goodwill EXCEPT MHFM who are evil personified?"

In other words, "everybody is OK as long as they have goodwill EXCEPT MHFM who are evil personified?"

The Novus Ordo is also not good.