Author Topic: Think CathInfo should be as big as Catholic Answers or Fisheaters? (Read 1294 times)

Matthew · « **on:** September 01, 2009, 11:37:03 AM »

Here is an example of the "numbers" we don't have. Do you really think CathInfo would be a better place if "Catholics" like this were regular posters here?
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sstark15:
My husband is a devout Catholic, passionate about his faith, and loves his God. I found out I was pregnant, and for reasons of my own, wanted to terminate the pregnancy. My husband was adamant that abortion was not an option and that I would be having this baby. As a result, I went behind his back and had the abortion anyway. I do not regret my decision. However, I am worried that the Catholic Church will hold him responsible for my sin even though he had no part in it. Is this true? Can my husband be excommunicated for my decision?
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Michelle Arnold:
(Catholic Answers Apologist)

If he did not will the abortion or participate in helping you attain it, he is not morally responsible for the abortion. You say though that he "was adamant that abortion was not an option and that I would be having this baby. As a result, I went behind his back and had the abortion anyway." If that is an accurate description of his attitude and actions, it might be that his insensitivity and controlling behavior contributed to your decision to prove yourself independent of him by having the abortion to spite him. If so, then he may want to assess his own behavior as a husband and take that to confession.

As for you, you have acknowledged that you committed a sin. If you consider yourself Christian (as your Profile indicates) and believe that you committed a sin, then you seriously need to re-evaluate your decision to have an abortion. I urge you to read the question-and-answer linked below and to discuss your decision with a post-abortion counselor from an apostolate such as Project Rachel or Rachel's Vineyard. God bless.

Recommended reading:

Can I be forgiven if I don't regret my abortion?

Matthew · « **Reply #1 on:** September 01, 2009, 11:39:11 AM »

Nevermind the woman who had the abortion; I don't think I'd want that established member (the so-called Apologist) on this board either --

She is equating a man getting passionate about not killing his baby with a man who is a control freak and has issues to work out -- she even suggests that he might be sinning!

Of course, any male-led family is going to be frowned upon by modern liberals such as those at Catholic Answers.

Belloc · « **Reply #2 on:** September 01, 2009, 11:39:20 AM »

I emailed some people over last few weeks promoting this forum, seeing if they would put this site as a link as some do FE or CA.......

Belloc · « **Reply #3 on:** September 01, 2009, 11:41:12 AM »

Quote from: ChantCd

Nevermind the woman who had the abortion; I don't think I'd want that established member (the so-called Apologist) on this board either --

She is equating a man getting passionate about not killing his baby with a man who is a control freak and has issues to work out -- she even suggests that he might be sinning!

Of course, any male-led family is going to be frowned upon by modern liberals such as those at Catholic Answers.

True...the woman needs first to repent and confess, then get counseling, but repentance is first step.......if hte man said "no" to abortion, she went around him, why would it be his sin? it is hers......

Matthew · « **Reply #4 on:** September 01, 2009, 11:42:27 AM »

It's true there are good Catholics out there that still don't post on CathInfo (or don't even know of its existence) but those people are obviously not looking for another forum. My site is not exactly buried in Google -- on the contrary.

A lot of the best Catholics refrain from the Internet, spend lots of time reading, praying, working, raising kids, etc. so I guess that is bad for a forum like CathInfo, which appeals to the "serious Catholic" set.

Matthew

Belloc · « **Reply #5 on:** September 01, 2009, 11:44:10 AM »

Quote from: ChantCd

It's true there are good Catholics out there that still don't post on CathInfo (or don't even know of its existence) but those people are obviously not looking for another forum. My site is not exactly buried in Google -- on the contrary.

A lot of the best Catholics refrain from the Internet, spend lots of time reading, praying, working, raising kids, etc. so I guess that is bad for a forum like CathInfo, which appeals to the "serious Catholic" set.

Matthew

well, we can all do our part to promote it.......

Matthew · « **Reply #6 on:** September 01, 2009, 11:50:59 AM »

Indeed, I encourage all CathInfo members to spread the word. Every good member that joins makes CathInfo a better place with even more good news and information for Catholics.

Matthew

Telesphorus · « **Reply #7 on:** September 01, 2009, 11:51:47 AM »

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You say though that he "was adamant that abortion was not an option and that I would be having this baby. As a result, I went behind his back and had the abortion anyway." If that is an accurate description of his attitude and actions, it might be that his insensitivity and controlling behavior contributed to your decision to prove yourself independent of him by having the abortion to spite him.

Unbelievable. So a husband who tells his wife she's not to have an abortion is to be suspected of "insensitivity" and "controlling behavior" that might have contributed to the woman's faithless betrayal of her husband and child!

What is the attitude behind this remark?

It sure seems to lack sensus fidei.

There really does seem to be a lack of the sense of gravity of abortion in the Conciliar/Novus Ordo Church.

Lots of pro-life talk, but no stomach for confronting the world.

So someone reputed as one the more pro-life bishops will say:

"abortionists are not evil people."

Buttiglione will say trying to outlaw abortion was a mistake.

l'Osservatore will scandalously undermine the decision to excomunicate made by the bishop in Brazil.

The Pope will smile and gladhand Obama.

Yes, they are selling us out - saying one thing, doing another on the abortion issue.

You can't say the Church is a "symbol of the unity of all mankind" and be willing to stand with the City of God against the City of Man.

We are all living through a catastrophe.

Raoul76 · « **Reply #8 on:** September 01, 2009, 12:10:59 PM »

"I do not regret my decision." Chilling pride, because implicit in that statement is her knowledge that she SHOULD regret it. If it were really a conscionable or decent act, she wouldn't have to remind people that she doesn't regret it.

I feel regret for a bad post on this website but she is A-OK with killing her child. Then she boasts about betraying her husband, the head of the family. "As a result, I went behind his back..." Today I'll pray for this woman's poor husband, because I doubt, now that she's taken this road, that this will be the last time she goes behind his back.

I hate to bring up my pre-Catholic past, but this reminds me of girls I knew who were driven entirely by rebellion. You'd say one thing, and they'd do another. And I wasn't asking them to go to Church at the time -- I mean, if you asked them to wash a dish because you were tired they'd see it as demeaning to their independence. This is a world in rebellion, full of hardened hearts.

I have the impression that, in the neo-pagan world, everything is reversed and men are vassals of their wives, who seem to me like witches who are deliberately populating the earth with the seed of the serpent. Is that paranoia? You have so many women who sow their oats when young, having abortions if need be, and then at around age 26-30, realizing they'll lose their looks, they nab some poor sucker and have lots of babies, who are merely chips on a bargaining table, a business transaction. It's all cold, loveless calculation, and often there's not even a natural, animal love between mothers and their children -- especially among the upper middle-class or rich. Terrifying.

clare · « **Reply #9 on:** September 01, 2009, 12:57:06 PM »

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You say though that he "was adamant that abortion was not an option and that I would be having this baby. As a result, I went behind his back and had the abortion anyway." If that is an accurate description of his attitude and actions, it might be that his insensitivity and controlling behavior contributed to your decision to prove yourself independent of him by having the abortion to spite him. If so, then he may want to assess his own behavior as a husband and take that to confession.

I'm speechless.

Belloc · « **Reply #10 on:** September 01, 2009, 01:17:21 PM »

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You say though that he "was adamant that abortion was not an option and that I would be having this baby. As a result, I went behind his back and had the abortion anyway." If that is an accurate description of his attitude and actions, it might be that his insensitivity and controlling behavior contributed to your decision to prove yourself independent of him by having the abortion to spite him. If so, then he may want to assess his own behavior as a husband and take that to confession.

I'm speechless.

I am also and appalled.......

parentsfortruth · « **Reply #11 on:** September 01, 2009, 01:18:46 PM »

As I've said previously, I'm happy here. I don't need FE or CA for my forum posting needs.

I'll go to PP sometimes, and that is huge, but this place is home to me.