Author Topic: They are destroying Tulsa, Oklahoma’s diocesan Latin Mass (Read 1082 times)

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #15 on:** June 14, 2025, 08:11:29 AM »

Novus Ordo is getting worse. Nothing left but mostly women in their late 60s, 70’s and 80’s. And they are running everything while their households are not in a state of grace. It is effeminate clergy and feminist older females.

Not much gen x except at hispanic masses.

Most young people are searching for real Catholicism.

SimpleMan · « **Reply #16 on:** June 14, 2025, 10:21:52 AM »

Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey on June 14, 2025, 08:11:29 AM

Novus Ordo is getting worse. Nothing left but mostly women in their late 60s, 70’s and 80’s. And they are running everything while their households are not in a state of grace. It is effeminate clergy and feminist older females.

Not much gen x except at hispanic masses.

Most young people are searching for real Catholicism.

Newchurch in the US is hanging all of its hopes upon Hispanic immigration (both legal and illegal) and greater birth rates among that group. It's about all they've got left.

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #17 on:** June 14, 2025, 10:25:59 AM »

Plus dioceses are getting kickbacks too from Hispanics and non Christians people. While parishioners are neglected.

IllyricumSacrum · « **Reply #18 on:** June 14, 2025, 05:45:47 PM »

Quote from: ElwinRansom1970 on June 13, 2025, 10:52:24 PM

Yes, because they believe that invincible ignorance saves and implicitly that all persons of natural good will are attached to the Church. It is the same ecclesiology as found in Lumen Gentium of Vatican II. It will prove to be the Achilles Heel of the CMRI as well as of the SSPX, the Roman Catholic Institute, and so many other trad groups who share that same ecclesiology which they, in turn, share with Karl Rahner et al.

So, basically, the Church in October 1958.

Minnesota · « **Reply #19 on:** June 14, 2025, 09:43:30 PM »

Quote from: SimpleMan on June 14, 2025, 10:21:52 AM

Newchurch in the US is hanging all of its hopes upon Hispanic immigration (both legal and illegal) and greater birth rates among that group. It's about all they've got left.

Ironically enough, Protestants are making major inroads in Latin America. To the point that some of them have lost their Catholic majority. This is happening in the US as well.

ElwinRansom1970 · « **Reply #20 on:** June 14, 2025, 09:53:48 PM »

Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey on June 14, 2025, 08:11:29 AM

Novus Ordo is getting worse. Nothing left but mostly women in their late 60s, 70’s and 80’s. And they are running everything while their households are not in a state of grace. It is effeminate clergy and feminist older females.

Not much gen x except at hispanic masses.

Most young people are searching for real Catholicism.

And how do you know this? Are you attending Novus Ordo Masses in varioys places around North America and across the world?

Do not generalise. Give concrete evidence, hard data. Otherwise, you do disservice to us other trads.

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