Author Topic: The word is ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ, not "gαy"! (Read 4832 times)

Zenith · « **on:** May 23, 2011, 05:42:04 PM »

I've noticed that a lot of Catholics use the word "gαy" when refering to ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs. I personally think that we should not use it because the word was hijacked by the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs and their agenda.

The word gαy means happy and it was hijacked to make the general population believe that a life of sin and depravity is normal and brings happiness.

Notice also that they cleverly selected a single syllable word for people use so that it roles of the tongue so easily when refering to ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs.
A clever trap and easy habit to fall into!

Lets not go along with this agenda and use the correct wording when referring to ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs.

The correct word is ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ or sodomite!

Jitpring · « **Reply #1 on:** May 23, 2011, 05:51:31 PM »

The word ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ is itself a neologism, having been invented in the 1892 edition of Psychopathia sɛҳuąƖis. Look into it. I think only sodomy and its cognates should be used, as they retain the full weight of the stigma.

By the way, you may have already seen the following, but if not:

Tactics of the Sodomite Movement

Raoul76 · « **Reply #2 on:** May 23, 2011, 05:57:58 PM »

I second Jitpring. Now that I think about it, ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ is a politically correct term.

If someone comes up to you and says "Do you believe in gαy marriage?" or "Do you believe in same-sex adoption?" imagine how that would sound if you inserted the word sodomite. "Do you believe in sodomite marriage?" "Do you believe sodomites should adopt?" Makes it sound as shockingly ugly as it really is.

Zenith · « **Reply #3 on:** May 23, 2011, 06:05:16 PM »

Yes now that I think of it, you are probably correct. Its simply a slow and gradual process as per usual.

1. Sodomite. Thats just a nasty way to refer to someone.
2. ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ. Well thats a little more politically correct and not as nasty.
3. gαy. Thats a nice word. Now we're cooking with gas!
4. Same-sex. Well thats just the scientific term for a "completely natural occurance".

Jitpring · « **Reply #4 on:** May 23, 2011, 06:21:13 PM »

Quote from: Zenith

Yes now that I think of it, you are probably correct. Its simply a slow and gradual process as per usual.

1. Sodomite. Thats just a nasty way to refer to someone.
2. ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ. Well thats a little more politically correct and not as nasty.
3. gαy. Thats a nice word. Now we're cooking with gas!
4. Same-sex. Well thats just the scientific term for a "completely natural occurance".

Exactly. Notice that same-sex can be seen as a kind of translation of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ, but of an even more morally neutral quality. That's the key with all these terms other than sodomite. They're about neutralizing the moral disapprobation attached to sodomy, and even turning it into something positive, or "gαy."

The problem is that once you use the word sodomite, your worldling listener/reader will immediately brand you as a religious fanatic and thus dismiss everything you say. So, practically speaking, I actually do use the word ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ when dealing with worldlings - as it's retained at least some of the stigma. But I never call sodomites gαy or attach same-sex to anything.

Sigismund · « **Reply #5 on:** May 24, 2011, 05:36:41 PM »

It seems to me that "sodomite" is needlessly offensive. ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs are not likely to be moved to conversion by being insulted.

And no, I do not support same sex marriage, open and proud ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ priests, or anything of the sort. I just think St. Francis de Sales was right when he noted that you attract more flies with honey. I expect that is even true of fruit flies.

I expect my reputation is about to plummet to single digits again. Oh, well, it it was nice while it lasted.

Zenith · « **Reply #6 on:** May 24, 2011, 05:48:04 PM »

Quote from: Sigismund

It seems to me that "sodomite" is needlessly offensive. ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs are not likely to be moved to conversion by being insulted.

And no, I do not support same sex marriage, open and proud ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ priests, or anything of the sort. I just think St. Francis de Sales was right when he noted that you attract more flies with honey. I expect that is even true of fruit flies.

I expect my reputation is about to plummet to single digits again. Oh, well, it it was nice while it lasted.

The same can be said for the word abortionist or prostitute or murderer. The word simply describes something accurately.

You can make any word sound nasty by the way you say it. You can scream, "You Saint" in someone's face and it can look and sound offensive just as you can use the word sodomite in a charitable way as we are all supposed to.

Lets call a spade a spade. What word do you think St. Francis de Sales would have used? I don't think he would have used same-sex, gαy, or ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ as none of them were around in his day.

Jitpring · « **Reply #7 on:** May 24, 2011, 06:54:00 PM »

Quote from: Zenith

The same can be said for the word abortionist

That is, surgical hitman or surgical terrorist.

Sigismund · « **Reply #8 on:** May 24, 2011, 08:17:03 PM »

Quote from: Zenith

Quote from: Sigismund
It seems to me that "sodomite" is needlessly offensive. ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs are not likely to be moved to conversion by being insulted.

And no, I do not support same sex marriage, open and proud ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ priests, or anything of the sort. I just think St. Francis de Sales was right when he noted that you attract more flies with honey. I expect that is even true of fruit flies.

I expect my reputation is about to plummet to single digits again. Oh, well, it it was nice while it lasted.

The same can be said for the word abortionist or prostitute or murderer. The word simply describes something accurately.

You can make any word sound nasty by the way you say it. You can scream, "You Saint" in someone's face and it can look and sound offensive just as you can use the word sodomite in a charitable way as we are all supposed to.

Lets call a spade a spade. What word do you think St. Francis de Sales would have used? I don't think he would have used same-sex, gαy, or ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ as none of them were around in his day.

True enough. "ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ" wasn't around then, but it is now. It is not much more palatable to the "gαy"advocates than "sodomite".

Your point about the word "abortionist" is well taken. I used to refer to the people who perform abortions as doctors, if I referred to them at all. My son, who is a Byzantine rite priest, suggested that I used abortionist instead, and I have ever since.

I am afraid to ask, but is there a politically correct term for "prostitute"?

Jitpring · « **Reply #9 on:** May 24, 2011, 09:22:30 PM »

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I am afraid to ask, but is there a politically correct term for "prostitute"?

Sex-industry worker and escort are ones I've heard.

Zenith · « **Reply #10 on:** May 25, 2011, 12:35:32 AM »

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I used to refer to the people who perform abortions as doctors, if I referred to them at all. My son, who is a Byzantine rite priest, suggested that I used abortionist instead, and I have ever since.

Yes a doctor is someone who looks after people's health in order to preserve life, not someone who destroys life. Actually abortionist should changed to infanticide expert or just simply murderer.

Hobbledehoy · « **Reply #11 on:** May 25, 2011, 12:51:05 AM »

I would just call them "degenerate." It connotes the fact that they have repudiated the true masculinity of their forefathers, and even basic human dignity. It also relates to the fact that their unnatural vices violate the instinct naturally inherent in every [normal] man to be a father [by natural means].

But "sodomite" is a term that has Scriptural connotations, so it ought to be used in Catholic discourse. It's really an umbrella term that embraces all the perversions the sodomites commit (whether carnal, cultural, philosophical, political, &c.), just like "fornication" and "adultery" were sometimes used in Holy Write to describe apostasy and idolatry.

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Actually abortionist should changed to infanticide expert or just simply murderer.

That or "baby-butcher," which is bound to get the appropriate reaction to such a horrible crime as abortion.

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I am afraid to ask, but is there a politically correct term for "prostitute"?

Oh Sigismund, you do tempt me with such a question, so I will answer it: "politician."

Zenith · « **Reply #12 on:** May 25, 2011, 12:54:56 AM »

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Oh Sigismund, you do tempt me with such a question, so I will answer it: "politician."

:applause: Or mainstream media Jounalist!

Sigismund · « **Reply #13 on:** May 25, 2011, 06:10:45 AM »

:smile:

Sigismund · « **Reply #14 on:** May 25, 2011, 06:13:23 AM »

Thanks. I guess I had heard "escort" used before, but "sex Industry worker" is a new one.