Who do you think is denying the Faith?

josh987654321 has insisted that in The End the Jєωs will convert en masse and that Catholics need "Jєωιѕн understanding of Scripture."

The Deposit of Faith teaches that only a remnant will be saved.

The Deposit of Faith teaches that Catholics need Catholic understanding.

Ergo, josh987654321 denies the Faith two-fold.


Many here treat their opinions as dogma.

I see inserting opinions into the Magisterium as a species of compromising the Faith, denying  the Faith.

Awareness is one thing, bitter zeal is another.

You implied that understanding things against God might not be helpful. I am only hoping for your awareness of such things. I do not seek bitter zeal from you.

josh987654321 has insisted that in The End the Jєωs will convert en masse and that Catholics need "Jєωιѕн understanding of Scripture."

The Deposit of Faith teaches that only a remnant will be saved.

The Deposit of Faith teaches that Catholics need Catholic understanding.

Ergo, josh987654321 denies the Faith two-fold.


Many here treat their opinions as dogma.

I see inserting opinions into the Magisterium as a species of compromising the Faith, denying  the Faith.

Question:

What does Romans  11:26 mean to you?

Romans 11:26--And so all Israel should be saved, as it is written: There shall come out of Sion, he that shall deliver, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob.

Most interpret this as Jews converting in the end.

Here is an article that talks about Jews and conversion. I didn't fact check it, so it may have errors.

 https://catholicism.org/ad-rem-no-310.html

Surprise, surprise. Another effeminate hissy fit from Ladislaus. What a self-important twerp.

He's good when it doesn't count, and bad when it does count. A familiar type.

Anyone who doesn't vigilantly and ruthlessly employ the jw-test isn't productive. And that includes employing the test on oneself. I'm jdaized.

Though I didn't care for Croix, I always got a kick out of his ruffling of Ladislaus' tender feathers.

For those of you who don't know, mainly lurkers (the main forum members are pretty useless), JayneK was promoting trannies 10 years (or so) ago on Fisheaters and said, in so many words, "anti-Judaism has nothing in common with Catholicism." Her laughable defense has always been, "I was new to traditional Catholicism." Any half-wit heathen would spot red flags.

2vermont attacked me for criticizing jws on the defunct TeDeum forum. Both are insincere jwess converts. They only will be critical of jws to save face and gain street cred, but with no real gusto. JayneK said she hasn't told her jwish family members that the holocost is a fraud, because there are more important things to tackle. Yeah, right. She could have just lied, which I wouldn't put past her, and say she did tell her jwish family members. But like a typical jw she prefers to test the waters and see what trad Caths will let her get away with.

Be careful about who you trust.

The jw-litmus reigns supreme!

St Paul persecuted the early Christians in the worst ways one could.  Wonder what you would have thought about his conversion had you been around in those times?

Anyone who doesn't vigilantly and ruthlessly employ the jw-test isn't productive. And that includes employing the test on oneself. I'm jdaized.

Though I didn't care for Croix, I always got a kick out of his ruffling of Ladislaus' tender feathers.

For those of you who don't know, mainly lurkers (the main forum members are pretty useless), JayneK was promoting trannies 10 years (or so) ago on Fisheaters and said, in so many words, "anti-Judaism has nothing in common with Catholicism." Her laughable defense has always been, "I was new to traditional Catholicism." Any half-wit heathen would spot red flags.

2vermont attacked me for criticizing jws on the defunct TeDeum forum. Both are insincere jwess converts. They only will be critical of jws to save face and gain street cred, but with no real gusto. JayneK said she hasn't told her jwish family members that the holocost is a fraud, because there are more important things to tackle. Yeah, right. She could have just lied, which I wouldn't put past her, and say she did tell her jwish family members. But like a typical jw she prefers to test the waters and see what trad Caths will let her get away with.

Be careful about who you trust.

The jw-litmus reigns supreme!

How would you know for sure that a Jєωιѕн convert was sincere?  Would martyrdom even suffice for you?  Because I could say any number of things here, but the reality is you would just say I lied.  Afterall, that's what Joos do, right?  And this is why it is futile for me to interact with you.

And as I have said to others on this site, it doesn't matter what YOU think of my conversion.  The only one that it matters to is God.  Which is why I will never explain myself to YOU.

   
How could your grace miss it?

How could I miss it? You don't hang on my every word and don't stalk me. I don't hang on your every word or stalk you. That's how I missed it and thank you for calling it to my attention. I am pleasantly surprised that you brought the excellent verse to the table.

Quote from: Stubborn 12/3/2024, 9:39:43 AM

Matthew 7:15 "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in the clothing of sheep, but inwardly they are ravening wolves." Snip from a Fr. Wathen sermon on this verse.

Seduced or browbeaten, they knew better and still went willingly. We know this because there were those few who did not go along at all - also of their own free will.

Of course, a solid verse.

I do not think you can make the "they knew better and still went willingly" leap in every case.

Many had Faith in their prelates and had also been processed by the alchemy of Jєωιѕн relativism for their entire lives. Just as cancer infiltrates and weakens the body, Jєωιѕн subjectivism/relativism/gradualism weakened the spiritual "immune system" of many. So, being taught by their trusted and traitorous prelates, many fell. They had not been taught to "know better" so were easily seduced. Many whose spiritual "immune systems" were not full "immune-compromised" fell because they were browbeaten into submission or "canceled."

Then, of course, there are the heresiarchs who you and I would agree are the willful wolves of whom the verse speaks.

I actually think both Josh and Mark are correct.  I think the Church teaches that overall there will only be a remnant of Jєωs that will convert; however, those that are left in the End Times will convert.  I could be wrong, but that seems to make sense to me.

Good Heavens. Please be precise.

Are you saying that in The End every single remaining Jєω is the "remnant" that will be saved?

I am reasonably knowledgeable about Jєωs and about The End. I have never seen anyone (except the heretic josh987654321), Magisterial or otherwise, claim that every single Jєω alive on The Last Day will convert. Everything Magisterial that I have read teaches that from Christ's Ministry until The Last Day a remnant will be saved—here and there, as it were, NOT here and there until The Last Day and then on the Last Day every single one will convert. I have never seen such a bizarre and qualified teaching from the Magisterium. If you have it, let's see it. Not speculation, but Magisterium!

If you have Magisterium saying that every single Jєω alive on The Last Day will convert, I would submit to authentic Magisterium and, if I have been wrong, I will abjure my error.

I'll add this. There is virtual unanimity among the Fathers that The Anti-Christ will be a Jєω and that he will be destroyed, not converted, on The Last Day.  That would certainly be at least one Jєω of the remnant left alive on The Last Day who did not convert, but damned instead. To me, that one exception alone makes the "every single one on The Last Day"  claim to be an absurd, untenable, and heretical claim.

I'll add this. There is virtual unanimity among the Fathers that The Anti-Christ will be a Jєω and that he will be destroyed, not converted, on The Last Day. 

The day the antichrist is killed is not the last day of the world.  After antichrist, there is a period of peace for the Church, where people will convert.  Some saints say this period may be decades long.  This is when the "jew conversion" prophecy will be fulfilled.  This is when Christ will truly be King over all the world.