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Offline TraceG

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« on: August 15, 2011, 07:16:39 PM »
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  • This could go here best I guess.  I am considering a simple farm life.  I think it fits best with the catholic life honestly.  Does anyone here have a family farm that they live on/off of?  I was thinking chickens, sheep and family crops.  What land size do you know that "works" for this?  The less one depends on gummit and big aggra the better.


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    « Reply #1 on: August 16, 2011, 01:48:40 AM »
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  • According to this book, five acres is all it takes. : )
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    « Reply #2 on: August 16, 2011, 01:49:36 AM »
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  • I grew up on one, and when people rhapsodize about the beautiful simplicity of farm life, I never hear them talking about how much work it is.

    My memory anyway, was a lot of work. Not a bad thing, but sometimes exhausting.

    I can't imagine that's changed in 20 years, it's a lot of work, be sure to take that into account.

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    « Reply #3 on: August 16, 2011, 02:09:35 AM »
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  • Quote from: Iuvenalis
    I grew up on one, and when people rhapsodize about the beautiful simplicity of farm life, I never hear them talking about how much work it is.

    My memory anyway, was a lot of work. Not a bad thing, but sometimes exhausting.

    I can't imagine that's changed in 20 years, it's a lot of work, be sure to take that into account.


    The nature of the work is also to be considered. Animals don't take vacations.
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    « Reply #4 on: August 16, 2011, 03:08:58 AM »
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  • Farming isn't a livelihood except for well-capitalized farms these days.

    What you can hope for from some small acreage is to have some fresh food and a slight degree of independence from the grocery store - but I wouldn't count on any real savings - just fresher, healthier food and better security at a time when economic disruptions will be getting worse.


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    « Reply #5 on: August 16, 2011, 09:51:45 AM »
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  • Quote from: MaterDominici

    The nature of the work is also to be considered. Animals don't take vacations.


    Man are you telling me.  :facepalm:
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    « Reply #6 on: August 16, 2011, 10:18:57 AM »
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  • Quote from: Telesphorus
    Farming isn't a livelihood except for well-capitalized farms these days.

    What you can hope for from some small acreage is to have some fresh food and a slight degree of independence from the grocery store - but I wouldn't count on any real savings - just fresher, healthier food and better security at a time when economic disruptions will be getting worse.


    Though that is true for some, I'd actually say that's a pessimistic exaggeration. I know people with less than 3 acres making a substantial supplemental income on their produce and livestock, if not making a living almost completely off it. That's not to say that they aren't at odds with the law, because if you were to actually register with the state as a commercial farm you are basically enslaving yourself and throwing money out the window simply because the state tell you to. And if you don't comply with the system and operate anyway, you're likely to have a SWAT team come raid you if anyone decided to rat you out, or if you showed up at your customers establishment while an inspector was there.


    But even if you are not selling any of your produce you would be saving a lot of money on groceries. You'd be surprised by how much a properly organized garden can yield. There are people who have managed to feed over 200 people on 2 acres of land (something the USDA say's is impossible).

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying gardening etc. is some magic money maker/pantry filler. All I'm saying is that if everything is properly organized, and every bit of space and every ounce of waste is utilized, and try and keep your inputs to a minimum, and stay away from monoculture agriculture (which applies to the plant bed), you are guaranteed to produce surplus you can sell or give away, and in the future, barter.
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    « Reply #7 on: August 16, 2011, 01:40:52 PM »
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  • I was looking up the economics of farming based on this thread and I found this website.

    They seem to think it's possible to make money with little land.

    http://www.spinfarming.com/whatsSpin/


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    « Reply #8 on: August 16, 2011, 01:58:43 PM »
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  • Very intersting LP-

    I just found their complete guide here:

    http://bobsfiles.cmsinethelp.com/files/Sustainable%20Farming/SPIN17NEW%5B2%5D.pdf

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    « Reply #9 on: August 16, 2011, 02:09:28 PM »
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  • Quote from: Iuvenalis
    I grew up on one, and when people rhapsodize about the beautiful simplicity of farm life, I never hear them talking about how much work it is.

    My memory anyway, was a lot of work. Not a bad thing, but sometimes exhausting.

    I can't imagine that's changed in 20 years, it's a lot of work, be sure to take that into account.


    This is very true. We always had people coming to visit us on the farm or families wanting to send their sons to work with us over the summer.  :facepalm: :rolleyes: It is WORK. Hard physical labor, no evening and weekends off. Not saying this is your situation Trace, you are probably well-informed, but many people don't have it in them. Or don't want to have it in them, I should say. Unless a person is raised with the country in their blood, the romance dies off quickly.

    In DH and my search for land we are staying far away from large properties. We want 5-10 acres. Just enough for hobby farming and room to run but with a little leisure time left over.