Author Topic: The saddest words youll ever hear (Read 2119 times)

Kephapaulos · « **Reply #5 on:** December 29, 2016, 06:49:34 PM »

Most people will try to excuse leaving the Catholic Church because of sentimental or ecuмenical reasons, but those would not matter period! The person knew and had free will choose no matter if they were misled because they chose to follow schism, heresy, or apostasy freely. Depending on the case, it might be even harder to get a traditional Catholic to come back. I know so many have come and gone at my SSPX chapel. My great great grandfather immigrated from northern Italy (a part of the kingdom of Savoy of the Masonic Vittore Emmanuele II) with his family in the early twentieth century, and I had learned he had some issue with the priests and money back in Italy. He held it against the Church and rejected the priest at his deathbed. He was buried on the Methodist side of the cemetery. Now many may excuse this and appeal to supposed maltreatment on the part of the Church, but that does not matter. It's frightening to think that my great great grandfather may have ended in Hell, but it is a lesson to be learned. People I think may also forget that sin blinds. When souls fall into sin, they fail to then see reality and little by little lose almost all sight of it. That is why we need to pray and sacrifice for such pitiful souls because God has abandoned them to their sin since it is what they want and have almost no other way of seeing the Truth.

B from A · « **Reply #6 on:** December 29, 2016, 06:54:15 PM »

Quote from: Matto

Quote from: Truth is Eternal
This is the first thing I thought of when I read "The saddest word you'll ever here.

Matthew 25:41
Then he shall say to them also that shall be on his left hand: Depart from me, you cursed, into everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels.

Yes, that is exactly what I thought this thread would be about also, "Depart from me you accursed", what Jesus will say to most souls when they are judged.

Same here.
Although then maybe the thread title would have been, "The saddest words you could ever hear."
Let's pray for each other that we don't.
And prayers for those who've said the words in the OP, that they return to the Faith so they don't hear "depart from Me ye cursed" either.

TKGS · « **Reply #7 on:** December 30, 2016, 11:32:15 AM »

Quote from: JezusDeKoning

Quote from: TKGS
Since living in the house I live in now (about 17 years), we've been visited by three pairs of Jehovah's Witnesses. One pair, I was unable to talk with due to things going on--I don't remember what was going on, I just remember that I just didn't have time to talk. The other two pairs, having seen the statue of the Blessed Virgin in next to our sidewalk, told me that they used to be Catholics or were raised Catholic.

They didn't want to talk after I started to actually discuss their religion with them and they ended up having to leave. One guy told me the he and his wife would come back when they had more time to talk, but I haven't seen them or anyone else from his "temple" since.

You're right that this is incredibly sad to hear.

Were they Hispanic? Lots of former Catholics-turned-JWs in that part of the world. I'd know from experience.

No. There are very, very few Hispanics that live in the area. One would have to go to the city where there is, no doubt, no lack of Hispanic former Catholics.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #8 on:** December 30, 2016, 05:39:53 PM »

My experience is that 99% of all "I'm not Catholic anymore" types, i.e. ex-Catholics, become ex-Catholics because of some MORAL issues. Not for theological reasons, not because they actually "saw the light" about the errors of the Church or the truth of "Bible" religion. In fact, the more militantly anti-Catholic the ex-Catholics have become, you can be completely certain that some moral issue was behind it.

-- divorced/remarried

-- issues with "confessing to a man" (too embarrassed to confess and rationalizing why they shouldn't have to)

-- were ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs

-- various sins of the flesh that they don't want to give up (fornication, adultery)

In fact, I've called them out on public forums before. Some ex-Catholic would rip on the Catholic Church and I would post something like, "So, tell us the truth, you're either divorced/remarried or a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ or didn't want to go to Confession." Most of them will reluctantly admit one of these to be the case.

Cantarella · « **Reply #9 on:** December 30, 2016, 07:38:41 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus

My experience is that 99% of all "I'm not Catholic anymore" types, i.e. ex-Catholics, become ex-Catholics because of some MORAL issues. Not for theological reasons, not because they actually "saw the light" about the errors of the Church or the truth of "Bible" religion. In fact, the more militantly anti-Catholic the ex-Catholics have become, you can be completely certain that some moral issue was behind it.

-- divorced/remarried

-- issues with "confessing to a man" (too embarrassed to confess and rationalizing why they shouldn't have to)

-- were ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs

-- various sins of the flesh that they don't want to give up (fornication, adultery)

In fact, I've called them out on public forums before. Some ex-Catholic would rip on the Catholic Church and I would post something like, "So, tell us the truth, you're either divorced/remarried or a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ or didn't want to go to Confession." Most of them will reluctantly admit one of these to be the case.

This is true! Good point.