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Offline Mat183

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Re: The Problem with Fuentes
« Reply #60 on: December 06, 2025, 08:03:01 PM »
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  • If someone attends non-Catholic religious services as a practice of their faith, then they do not profess the true Faith. Putting aside whether or not the NO priest is even a real priest, there would be no remission of sins there because he is unrepentantly participating in non-Catholic religious services. Someone who attends the non-Catholic NO mass and then dies without having repented of that sin is damned. I don't take pleasure in saying this as I've known many NOers, but 50/50 doesn't cut it..and it never has. You are either Catholic or you are not. A single grain of incense to the pagan gods is an act of apostasy


    What do you say if the person from no fault of his own and who had been subjected to nothing but bad catechesis since the age of reason attended the NO Mass without realizing the nature of what he was attending or perhaps not even knowing that there ever had been a traditional Latin Mass and went there in his mind to faithfully honor the Lord's Day and lead a just life and did not fall into any subjective state of mortal sin.? If he died while attending the NO Mass would he in your opinion automatically go to hell for dying outside the Catholic Church?

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    Re: The Problem with Fuentes
    « Reply #61 on: December 06, 2025, 08:49:36 PM »
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  • The 16 Vatican II docuмents started to be promulgated on 12/4/63 and ended on 12/7/65 with the NO Mass being promulgated on 4/3/69 and first implemented on 11/30/69.  Obviously, a time of great confusion and shattered catechesis with many, if not most,  in the above time frame and succeeding years not even realizing that the Church was being utterly hijacked by a ruinous praxis.  They were being told by those "in authority" that it was a new springtime.

    You say that the Conciliar Church came in to being "at least 65 years ago."  That would be in 1960 before Vatican II even started.
    Yes, my mistake! I meant at least 60, i.e. ~1965

    What do you say if the person from no fault of his own and who had been subjected to nothing but bad catechesis since the age of reason attended the NO Mass without realizing the nature of what he was attending or perhaps not even knowing that there ever had been a traditional Latin Mass and went there in his mind to faithfully honor the Lord's Day and lead a just life and did not fall into any subjective state of mortal sin.? If he died while attending the NO Mass would he in your opinion automatically go to hell for dying outside the Catholic Church?
    Why has anyone at all who was in the Conciliar Church rejected it, and begun to profess the true Catholic Faith? Because God offered them the grace to do so, and they accepted that grace. I believe that anyone of good will, who earnestly seeks the truth, will be granted the graces necessary to reject the V2 sect and enter the Catholic Church. Our Lord calls, you either do or do not answer

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    Pope Leo XII, Ubi Primum (# 14), May 5, 1824:
    “It is impossible for the most true God, who is Truth itself, the best, the wisest Provider, and the Rewarder of good men, to approve all sects who profess false teachings which are often inconsistent with one another and contradictory, and to confer eternal rewards on their members… by divine faith we hold one Lord, one faith, one baptism… This is why we profess that there is no salvation outside the Church.”
    John 15:19  If you had been of the world, the world would love its own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.


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    Re: The Problem with Fuentes
    « Reply #62 on: December 13, 2025, 10:53:37 AM »
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    Re: The Problem with Fuentes
    « Reply #63 on: December 13, 2025, 12:43:37 PM »
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  • https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15375021/Nick-Fuentes-anger-management-pepper-spray-Marla-Rose.html
    She described herself as “ furious” and “ wanted him to know there were consequences for speaking” and nick is the one to get arrested. I guess if a fat Jєωιѕн woman shows up at your house furious and starts doxing you there is nothing you can do about it. You just deal with the “ consequences”. What ever they may be, like a guy showing up with a gun one month later. 🤷‍♂️ sounds legit.

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    Re: The Problem with Fuentes
    « Reply #64 on: December 13, 2025, 03:43:02 PM »
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  • I think Fuentes is controlled opposition, and he probably overreacted a bit here, especially when he pushed her down ... BUT

    ... it's quite clear this woman decided to become her own paparazza.  She admittedly had been taking videos of his house for several minutes before walking up to the door.  She wasn't just randomly going up to the door to ask if he had a cup of sugar she could borrow for a recipe.  She was effectively stalking him, violating his privacy (by taking video of his home, which could in theory capture things inside, which is where the line gets drawn), and trepassing ... going onto his property without authorization to take video to post online.

    Let's say you had some other type of celebrity, say, Mel Gibson, and he saw some woman taking video of his house for some time, and then she goes up to his door (camera still rolling), and rings the doorbell.  I don't think anybody would fault him for opening the door and engaging pepper spray.  These people have no business there harrassing them, violating their privacy, and ... how do you know that they're not actually coming up there with evil intent?  What if it's some obsessed fan, or, in the case of Fuentes, somebody who hates him for his "Anti-Semitism".  Could she be armed?  You just never know.  If I tried doing this to some big name, whether an actor, or a politician, etc. ... I'd consider myself lucky if had gotten out of there with my life, that they hadn't blown me away, worried about my intentions.


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    Re: The Problem with Fuentes
    « Reply #65 on: December 13, 2025, 05:07:18 PM »
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  • I think Fuentes is controlled opposition, and he probably overreacted a bit here, especially when he pushed her down ... BUT

    ... it's quite clear this woman decided to become her own paparazza.  She admittedly had been taking videos of his house for several minutes before walking up to the door.  She wasn't just randomly going up to the door to ask if he had a cup of sugar she could borrow for a recipe.  She was effectively stalking him, violating his privacy (by taking video of his home, which could in theory capture things inside, which is where the line gets drawn), and trepassing ... going onto his property without authorization to take video to post online.

    Let's say you had some other type of celebrity, say, Mel Gibson, and he saw some woman taking video of his house for some time, and then she goes up to his door (camera still rolling), and rings the doorbell.  I don't think anybody would fault him for opening the door and engaging pepper spray.  These people have no business there harrassing them, violating their privacy, and ... how do you know that they're not actually coming up there with evil intent?  What if it's some obsessed fan, or, in the case of Fuentes, somebody who hates him for his "Anti-Semitism".  Could she be armed?  You just never know.  If I tried doing this to some big name, whether an actor, or a politician, etc. ... I'd consider myself lucky if had gotten out of there with my life, that they hadn't blown me away, worried about my intentions.
    I hadn’t seen this story about Fuentes. I don’t understand the ‘your body my choice’ or the ‘my body my choice’ because this is not her body it’s an unborn baby with a separate soul, created by God. ‘Your body my choice’ is just designed to rage bait the liberal pro abortion women. But it is actually playing into their false narrative. They think somehow men are trying to decide what they do with their bodies whereas the moral point is that murder of an innocent unborn baby is a very very serious sin.
    I think this Rose woman looks quite good for 58. Perhaps Fuentes overreacted  but her behaviour could have indicated she was a nutter who was armed. He wasn’t to know any different. 

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    Re: The Problem with Fuentes
    « Reply #66 on: December 14, 2025, 12:37:19 AM »
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  • Why open the door at all?

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    Re: The Problem with Fuentes
    « Reply #67 on: December 14, 2025, 02:09:09 AM »
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  • Why open the door at all?
    Yes, most people probably would not open the door or would speak to the woman from behind the door, ask her what she wanted. Fuentes does seem rather angry in disposition.


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    Re: The Problem with Fuentes
    « Reply #68 on: December 14, 2025, 10:32:02 AM »
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  • I think Fuentes is controlled opposition...

    Absolutely zero question at this stage.
    "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is all man."

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    Re: The Problem with Fuentes
    « Reply #69 on: December 14, 2025, 02:57:50 PM »
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  • Fuentes is controlled opposition
    Indeed. Why else would the Jew York Times run an article on him, propping him up?

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    Re: The Problem with Fuentes
    « Reply #70 on: Yesterday at 04:39:43 AM »
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  • Yes, I was kind of on the fence about Fuentes, but it makes sense that he is controlled opposition after all. I was told by some that there were hopes with him due to thinking he had political and influential potential and simply needed to mature, but it is not really that as Gladius and Geremia pointed out. 
    "Non nobis, Domine, non nobis; sed nomini tuo da gloriam..." (Ps. 113:9)


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    Re: The Problem with Fuentes
    « Reply #71 on: Yesterday at 05:47:09 AM »
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  • It's impossible to get past more than a few thousand followers if you're telling the complete truth, or enough of the truth to expose the real master of puppets.

    You'll get kicked off Jewtube in a second, and even the more "pro free speech" sites will have an agent to axe the "waking up" operation. They have gatekeepers in the fringe sphere as well. 

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    Re: The Problem with Fuentes
    « Reply #72 on: Yesterday at 10:53:40 AM »
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  • Why open the door at all?
    Publicity and to further his street cred among young men.