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Offline Mat183

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Re: The Problem with Fuentes
« Reply #60 on: Yesterday at 08:03:01 PM »
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  • If someone attends non-Catholic religious services as a practice of their faith, then they do not profess the true Faith. Putting aside whether or not the NO priest is even a real priest, there would be no remission of sins there because he is unrepentantly participating in non-Catholic religious services. Someone who attends the non-Catholic NO mass and then dies without having repented of that sin is damned. I don't take pleasure in saying this as I've known many NOers, but 50/50 doesn't cut it..and it never has. You are either Catholic or you are not. A single grain of incense to the pagan gods is an act of apostasy


    What do you say if the person from no fault of his own and who had been subjected to nothing but bad catechesis since the age of reason attended the NO Mass without realizing the nature of what he was attending or perhaps not even knowing that there ever had been a traditional Latin Mass and went there in his mind to faithfully honor the Lord's Day and lead a just life and did not fall into any subjective state of mortal sin.? If he died while attending the NO Mass would he in your opinion automatically go to hell for dying outside the Catholic Church?

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    Re: The Problem with Fuentes
    « Reply #61 on: Yesterday at 08:49:36 PM »
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  • The 16 Vatican II docuмents started to be promulgated on 12/4/63 and ended on 12/7/65 with the NO Mass being promulgated on 4/3/69 and first implemented on 11/30/69.  Obviously, a time of great confusion and shattered catechesis with many, if not most,  in the above time frame and succeeding years not even realizing that the Church was being utterly hijacked by a ruinous praxis.  They were being told by those "in authority" that it was a new springtime.

    You say that the Conciliar Church came in to being "at least 65 years ago."  That would be in 1960 before Vatican II even started.
    Yes, my mistake! I meant at least 60, i.e. ~1965

    What do you say if the person from no fault of his own and who had been subjected to nothing but bad catechesis since the age of reason attended the NO Mass without realizing the nature of what he was attending or perhaps not even knowing that there ever had been a traditional Latin Mass and went there in his mind to faithfully honor the Lord's Day and lead a just life and did not fall into any subjective state of mortal sin.? If he died while attending the NO Mass would he in your opinion automatically go to hell for dying outside the Catholic Church?
    Why has anyone at all who was in the Conciliar Church rejected it, and begun to profess the true Catholic Faith? Because God offered them the grace to do so, and they accepted that grace. I believe that anyone of good will, who earnestly seeks the truth, will be granted the graces necessary to reject the V2 sect and enter the Catholic Church. Our Lord calls, you either do or do not answer

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    Pope Leo XII, Ubi Primum (# 14), May 5, 1824:
    “It is impossible for the most true God, who is Truth itself, the best, the wisest Provider, and the Rewarder of good men, to approve all sects who profess false teachings which are often inconsistent with one another and contradictory, and to confer eternal rewards on their members… by divine faith we hold one Lord, one faith, one baptism… This is why we profess that there is no salvation outside the Church.”
    John 15:19  If you had been of the world, the world would love its own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.