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The Problem with Fuentes
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  • Here's the problem with Fuentes...he's just preaching despair.  He's getting rage-bait-clicks and despair-clicks.  He's preaching to the choir of men who have already made up their minds that life is against them.  He's preaching to give up.

    This is not to say that life is easy.  Even if you find a Trad Catholic wife, it's still going to be difficult.  The world, society, (even family members) are against men (and good women).

    But this isn't the only generation that has faced difficulties.  God knew from all eternity who you would be born to, into what family, the exact day, month and year.  He knew what society would be like, what govts would be like, what your family would be like.  God knows all.  So if you decide to forgo despair and accept fortitude and perseverance, then life will work out (through God's grace).

    This is not to say that you should get married (or shouldn't...there are still problems out there).  Or that most women can be changed by grace/prayers (they cannot).  Or that society can be ignored, if you live a good, catholic life (it cannot be ignored).  Or that govts won't try to control you, if you are a good catholic (they will; God's grace does not stop free will of evil people).

    But it does mean that you stop living life like Fuentes implies (and does not directly say)...which is to despair.  NO!

    Life is not over, if you don't have a great job.
    Life is not over, if the govt hates you.
    Life is not over, if you're not married.
    Life is not over, if society doesn't care.

    God cares.  God is on your side.  God created you for a reason, and NO ONE can stop His reasons.  No power on earth can stop God, when He decides to act.  No amount of sin can stop the power of God's grace.  No amount of evil can stop the holiness of God's Church, which enlightens the world.  No amount of planning by evil men can hold a candle to God's Almighty Providence, who knew you from all eternity.

    So stop listening to immature, inexperienced, idiots like Fuentes.  He's only talking to gain a crowd.  To make a $ buck.  To gain an audience.

    He has no insight into the future; only God does.
    He has no experience of your life, but God does.
    He has no knowledge of your talents, your desires, your goodness, but God does.


    For thus saith the Lord: When the seventy years shall begin to be accomplished in Babylon, I will visit you: and I will perform my good word in your favour, to bring you again to this place.  11 For I know the thoughts that I think towards you, saith the Lord, thoughts of peace, and not of affliction, to give you an end and patience.

    12 And you shall call upon me, and you shall go: and you shall pray to me, and I will hear you.
    13 You shall seek me, and shall find me: when you shall seek me with all your heart.
    (Jeremiah 29: 10-13)




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    Re: The Problem with Fuentes
    « Reply #1 on: Yesterday at 07:46:18 PM »
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  • Wow!  Where is all this vitriol of yours coming from?  Why the diatribe?

    You have put forth a gross misrepresentation of Fuentes, an individual who certainly does not preach despair.  He is humble and honest enough to openly recognize his personal shortcomings. but this litany of faults you attribute to him is simply not true.  You hit your high, or rather low, point when you say, "So stop listening to immature, inexperienced, idiots like Fuentes."  If he was that simple a name calling caricature that you make him out to be he certainly would not be where he is today.  That said, I'm sure you will nevertheless find individuals on CathInfo who will be only too happy to agree with your extremely one-sided negative views you have expressed in this rant and more.


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    Re: The Problem with Fuentes
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  • Honestly he gives me hope that the younger generation is seeing through the madness. I’ve been a “ truther” since 9/11 when I was 15 and it was lonely out there. No one wanted to talk about it a we were outcast. If you spoke out about the Iraq war you were a communist and anti American. You didn’t support the troops. If you thought Obama was a communist subversive when he ran for his first term you were a kook. When you questioned D.j.t and were wondering why everyone would take a shot because a billionaire democrat from New York City told it was super safe and effective you were nuts. When you talked about skull and bones and all the occult societies running government you were crazy. Now it’s all mainstream! Now it’s what all the kids are into. He raised the Jєωιѕн question to a whole new generation. If you liked David Irving in the early
    2000s and just maintained Germany got screwed in the world wars your were a total outcast now he’s considered a hero. I see the awareness aspect as a really good thing. Of course they are going to the extreme calling Adolph himself a hero now but as they are open to learning more we can work with that and teach them the Catholic perspectives. And teach them they may have found themselves in dachau for speaking out as a Christian against him, of course but it’s a lot less lonely now discussing these topics especially with the younger generation because honestly the “boomers” as he calls them in my experience didn’t want to hear it. He’s not the only one speaking out against the war on men and I don’t agree with the racial aspects and categories he forms but I definitely understand the frustrations. I put Catholics as my first category Americans 2nd and I don’t divide us in any way from there. And as an enemy category I see it as team satan and the oligarchy. I’m sure I can break it down a little more but I don’t buy into the black white yellow stuff at all.

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    Re: The Problem with Fuentes
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  • Wow!  Where is all this vitriol of yours coming from?  Why the diatribe?

    You have put forth a gross misrepresentation of Fuentes, an individual who certainly does not preach despair.  He is humble and honest enough to openly recognize his personal shortcomings. but this litany of faults you attribute to him is simply not true.  You hit your high, or rather low, point when you say, "So stop listening to immature, inexperienced, idiots like Fuentes."  If he was that simple a name calling caricature that you make him out to be he certainly would not be where he is today.  That said, I'm sure you will nevertheless find individuals on CathInfo who will be only too happy to agree with your extremely one-sided negative views you have expressed in this rant and more.
    My post included specific reasons why I said what I said.  Your post (as usual) was general and generic, offering ZERO substance. 

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    Re: The Problem with Fuentes
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  • Honestly he gives me hope that the younger generation is seeing through the madness. I’ve been a “ truther” since 9/11 when I was 15 and it was lonely out there.
    You're right, but only partially.  The younger men are waking up, but Fuentes is the gatekeeper who is trying to corral them to follow him to …where?  He preaches anger and truth but does he point to God as the answer?  No.  He agrees with “the people”, but does he point to prayer as a solution?  No.  He talks about going to church, but does he urge young men to use their Faith as a means to overcome problems?  No.  

    He's the younger generation’s Alex Jones.  Preaching to the people, with no purpose but to help people vent frustrations, and let the political system continue on.  He offers ZERO real-life solutions, other than whining about the problem.  Without whining, he wouldn’t have a job, so this proves he’s a politician wanna be. 


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    Re: The Problem with Fuentes
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  • You're right, but only partially.  The younger men are waking up, but Fuentes is the gatekeeper who is trying to corral them to follow him to …where?  He preaches anger and truth but does he point to God as the answer?  No.  He agrees with “the people”, but does he point to prayer as a solution?  No.  He talks about going to church, but does he urge young men to use their Faith as a means to overcome problems?  No. 

    He's the younger generation’s Alex Jones.  Preaching to the people, with no purpose but to help people vent frustrations, and let the political system continue on.  He offers ZERO real-life solutions, other than whining about the problem.  Without whining, he wouldn’t have a job, so this proves he’s a politician wanna be.
    I'm afraid it you who is doing all the whining.  Let people actually listen to what he says and they would realize that you have grossly misrepresented him.

    See this various recent interviews: https://rumble.com/c/nickjfuentes

    Here is just one of many which is all broken down for anyone who cares to actually hear what the man has to say for himself, rather than rely on what others say about him:




    00:00
    - Intro
    01:20 - What Exactly Did You Say That Made You So Dangerous?
    06:10 - Who Invented Cancel Culture?
    11:00 - Nick Talks About His Background in Speech and Debate
    13:55 - Nick Breaks Down The Power Structure of Those Who Truly Rule Us
    19:55 - Why Would Anyone Want to Be in Power if There Are So Many Hidden Players in Government?
    21:30 - If You Could Make a Federal Agency Disappear, Which One Would it Be?
    23:35 - Why High-Level Politicians Are Afraid of Nick
    27:00 - When Did Trump Become Compromised?
    29:20 - Is Trump in the Epstein Files?
    34:50 - What Did Rock Bottom Look Like?
    37:10 - Why Does Everything Feel “Off” in 2025?
    40:35 - Why is Gen Z Men Drawn to Nick?
    42:55 - Nick Talks About How Boredom is the Most Dangerous Feeling
    43:24 - What is the Biggest Moral Challenge Facing Young Men Today?
    47:25 - What Do You Admire About Gen Z?
    49:20 - Why Are Gen Z Women Obsessed With Astrology?
    52:00 - Nick Explains Why He Believes Women Should Have Fewer Rights
    55:30 - Why is Modern Dating so Feminine?
    01:00:30 - What’s the Craziest Email You’ve Ever Received?
    01:01:35 - Who Are Your Top 5 Favorite Artists?
    01:03:50 - Nick Describes Political and Famous Figures With One Word
    01:04:55 - Did You Buy Trump Coin?
    01:07:25 - When Was the Last Great Year in America?
    01:14:30 - What’s the Darkest Thing You’ve Learned in Catholic School?
    01:17:20 - If You Could Force Americans to Read One Book, Which One Would it Be?
    01:19:10 - Nick Shares His Views on Segregation
    01:26:10 - Should America Be a Christian Nation?
    01:30:05 - Is AI Part of God’s Plan?
    01:32:30 - Did Nick Go to Mass During the Pandemic?
    01:33:10 - Do You Regret Not Becoming a Priest?
    01:35:35 - If You Had 5 Minutes With Jesus Christ, What Would You Tell Him?
    01:36:25 - What Does Your Prayers Look Like?
    01:38:15 - Nick Shares Some of His Dreams That Became Real
    01:40:15 - If You Had a Conversation With Charlie Kirk, What Would You Ask Him?
    01:42:00 - What Do You Think About Erika Kirk?
    01:47:00 - Nick Talks About Why He Denied Any Charlie’s Kirk cօռspιʀαcιҽs?
    01:51:45 - What’s Something Your Mother Taught You?
    01:54:25 - Who’s the Person You Call When You Get in Trouble?
    01:56:45 - Did the Fed think Nick Was a Paid Actor on January 6th?
    02:00:55 - Nick Explains Why He Believes GOP Leaders Are Vulnerable to Blackmail
    02:02:50 - Is There a Coordinated Reason Nick is Becoming Mainstream?
    02:04:35 - What is Something Nick Isn’t Allowed to Say?
    02:09:15 - What is the Plan With JD Vance?
    02:13:50 - Can Gavin Newsom Beat JD Vance?
    02:15:50 - Nick Discusses His Thoughts on Replacing America’s Current Political System
    02:19:00 - Nick Talks About Situations Where Political Movements Could Turn to Violence
    02:22:05 - What Would Day One of Nick’s Presidency Look Like?
    02:27:30 - What Would Nick Ask the Guys in Suits?
    02:30:10 - Nick Explores His Take on an Alternate WWII Outcome Favoring the Axis Powers
    02:33:30 - What’s Your Biggest Fear About The Future?
    02:34:40 - Nick Fuentes Talks About His Legacy
    02:35:30 - If You Could Say a Prayer For America, What Would it Look Like?











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    Re: The Problem with Fuentes
    « Reply #6 on: Yesterday at 09:35:02 PM »
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  • I'm afraid it you who is doing all the whining.  Let people actually listen to what he says and they would realize that you have grossly misrepresented him.

    See this various recent interviews: https://rumble.com/c/nickjfuentes

    Here is just one of many which is all broken down for anyone who cares to actually hear what the man has to say for himself, rather than rely on what others say about him:




    00:00
    - Intro
    01:20 - What Exactly Did You Say That Made You So Dangerous?
    06:10 - Who Invented Cancel Culture?
    11:00 - Nick Talks About His Background in Speech and Debate
    13:55 - Nick Breaks Down The Power Structure of Those Who Truly Rule Us
    19:55 - Why Would Anyone Want to Be in Power if There Are So Many Hidden Players in Government?
    21:30 - If You Could Make a Federal Agency Disappear, Which One Would it Be?
    23:35 - Why High-Level Politicians Are Afraid of Nick
    27:00 - When Did Trump Become Compromised?
    29:20 - Is Trump in the Epstein Files?
    34:50 - What Did Rock Bottom Look Like?
    37:10 - Why Does Everything Feel “Off” in 2025?
    40:35 - Why is Gen Z Men Drawn to Nick?
    42:55 - Nick Talks About How Boredom is the Most Dangerous Feeling
    43:24 - What is the Biggest Moral Challenge Facing Young Men Today?
    47:25 - What Do You Admire About Gen Z?
    49:20 - Why Are Gen Z Women Obsessed With Astrology?
    52:00 - Nick Explains Why He Believes Women Should Have Fewer Rights
    55:30 - Why is Modern Dating so Feminine?
    01:00:30 - What’s the Craziest Email You’ve Ever Received?
    01:01:35 - Who Are Your Top 5 Favorite Artists?
    01:03:50 - Nick Describes Political and Famous Figures With One Word
    01:04:55 - Did You Buy Trump Coin?
    01:07:25 - When Was the Last Great Year in America?
    01:14:30 - What’s the Darkest Thing You’ve Learned in Catholic School?
    01:17:20 - If You Could Force Americans to Read One Book, Which One Would it Be?
    01:19:10 - Nick Shares His Views on Segregation
    01:26:10 - Should America Be a Christian Nation?
    01:30:05 - Is AI Part of God’s Plan?
    01:32:30 - Did Nick Go to Mass During the Pandemic?
    01:33:10 - Do You Regret Not Becoming a Priest?
    01:35:35 - If You Had 5 Minutes With Jesus Christ, What Would You Tell Him?
    01:36:25 - What Does Your Prayers Look Like?
    01:38:15 - Nick Shares Some of His Dreams That Became Real
    01:40:15 - If You Had a Conversation With Charlie Kirk, What Would You Ask Him?
    01:42:00 - What Do You Think About Erika Kirk?
    01:47:00 - Nick Talks About Why He Denied Any Charlie’s Kirk cօռspιʀαcιҽs?
    01:51:45 - What’s Something Your Mother Taught You?
    01:54:25 - Who’s the Person You Call When You Get in Trouble?
    01:56:45 - Did the Fed think Nick Was a Paid Actor on January 6th?
    02:00:55 - Nick Explains Why He Believes GOP Leaders Are Vulnerable to Blackmail
    02:02:50 - Is There a Coordinated Reason Nick is Becoming Mainstream?
    02:04:35 - What is Something Nick Isn’t Allowed to Say?
    02:09:15 - What is the Plan With JD Vance?
    02:13:50 - Can Gavin Newsom Beat JD Vance?
    02:15:50 - Nick Discusses His Thoughts on Replacing America’s Current Political System
    02:19:00 - Nick Talks About Situations Where Political Movements Could Turn to Violence
    02:22:05 - What Would Day One of Nick’s Presidency Look Like?
    02:27:30 - What Would Nick Ask the Guys in Suits?
    02:30:10 - Nick Explores His Take on an Alternate WWII Outcome Favoring the Axis Powers
    02:33:30 - What’s Your Biggest Fear About The Future?
    02:34:40 - Nick Fuentes Talks About His Legacy
    02:35:30 - If You Could Say a Prayer For America, What Would it Look Like?
    All you need to do is watch at the 2:14:00 mark, where he poo-poos the idea of a "grand conspiracy" where all the factions are working together.  :facepalm:  He's either incredibly naive/stupid, or a gatekeeper of truth.  Since he knows quite a bit about politics and the powers that be, I suggest he's a gatekeeper.

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    Re: The Problem with Fuentes
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  • All you need to do is watch at the 2:14:00 mark, where he poo-poos the idea of a "grand conspiracy" where all the factions are working together.  :facepalm:  He's either incredibly naive/stupid, or a gatekeeper of truth.  Since he knows quite a bit about politics and the powers that be, I suggest he's a gatekeeper.

    In 2025, as just one example, he appeared on a public broadcast with Tucker Carlson with a near record setting number of views and referred repeatedly to Jews as a cohesive bloc dominating U.S. foreign-policy, media, and power structures.  Not exactly gate keeping!  And as far as all the factions go they are obviously not working all together with all the in-fighting even among the factions themselves, but what he said on Carlson's show and others about the over-arching power and dominance of the Jews speaks for itself.


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    Re: The Problem with Fuentes
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  • A few first principles.

    1. I am not perfect.
    2. Nobody on this site is perfect.
    3. Nobody off this site is perfect.

    In view of these truths… when someone pisses and moans about other Catholics, the first question I ask myself is, "What the hell [!!!] has the complainant done to promote the Catholic Faith?"

    In 99.9% of cases, the answer is "Not much, if anything."

    Sure, there are times when subversives need to be outed, but—damn!—if you think somebody else isn't doing it right, get off your effing ass and do it right yourself!

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    Re: The Problem with Fuentes
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  • In 2025, as just one example, he appeared on a public broadcast with Tucker Carlson with a near record setting number of views and referred repeatedly to Jews as a cohesive bloc dominating U.S. foreign-policy, media, and power structures.  Not exactly gate keeping!  And as far as all the factions go they are obviously not working all together with all the in-fighting even among the factions themselves, but what he said on Carlson's show and others about the over-arching power and dominance of the Jews speaks for itself.
    See, that's the danger.  He's pointing everyone towards Israel as being the big, bad guy.  Which leads (in the future) to those people being labeled as αnтι-ѕємιтєs.  And once that happens, then all the things they believe in, regarding the problems of society, will be ignored by the people who need to hear it (i.e. the sheeple).

    The real issue is masonry, which is a global cabal, and also the satanic elites, who run most every country in the world, as Our Lady of Good Success told us.

    Pointing the finger at Israel is a trap.  Ignoring the Global conspiracy is a major red flag.

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    Re: The Problem with Fuentes
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  • See, that's the danger.  He's pointing everyone towards Israel as being the big, bad guy.  Which leads (in the future) to those people being labeled as αnтι-ѕємιтєs.  And once that happens, then all the things they believe in, regarding the problems of society, will be ignored by the people who need to hear it (i.e. the sheeple).

    The real issue is masonry, which is a global cabal, and also the satanic elites, who run most every country in the world, as Our Lady of Good Success told us.

    Pointing the finger at Israel is a trap.  Ignoring the Global conspiracy is a major red flag.
    That’s really good point and something I hadn’t considered. That the ultimate bad guy is Satan and the satanic elites. I was going to ageee with Knoxville that it’s good the younger generation born post 2000 are seeing as mainstream the info that people like me only woke up to as an adult. All because it’s possible to research more easily now as everything online. But this is a perspective I hadn’t considered. I still prefer Fuentes to Candace. She was pretty rude to him too, telling him off for not being married in one exchange….


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    Re: The Problem with Fuentes
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  • See, that's the danger.  He's pointing everyone towards Israel as being the big, bad guy.  Which leads (in the future) to those people being labeled as αnтι-ѕємιтєs.  And once that happens, then all the things they believe in, regarding the problems of society, will be ignored by the people who need to hear it (i.e. the sheeple).

    The real issue is masonry, which is a global cabal, and also the satanic elites, who run most every country in the world, as Our Lady of Good Success told us.

    Pointing the finger at Israel is a trap.  Ignoring the Global conspiracy is a major red flag.
    Both the Rev Denis Fahey and Mgr Delassus have explained fully out that the orchestra conductor of all the lodges in the world has a small cap. If pointing it out labels one αnтι-ѕємιтє, does it really matter? Anti-semitism is actually quite fashionable these days anyway, even Tucker Carlson is accused of this now. 



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    Re: The Problem with Fuentes
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  • Both the Rev Denis Fahey and Mgr Delassus have explained fully out that the orchestra conductor of all the lodges in the world has a small cap. If pointing it out labels one αnтι-ѕємιтє, does it really matter? Anti-semitism is actually quite fashionable these days anyway, even Tucker Carlson is accused of this now.
    The point is, that saying "joos" means being anti-israel.  Most people don't get the over-arching point that catholics are making (i.e. the satanic, anti-catholic, fake-jewry which is at war against the church).  All the normies hear is "israel", which is NOT what we're against.  Using non-jooish terms makes things clearer and takes away the emotional factor.

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  • The point is, that saying "joos" means being anti-israel.  Most people don't get the over-arching point that catholics are making (i.e. the satanic, anti-catholic, fake-jewry which is at war against the church).  All the normies hear is "israel", which is NOT what we're against.  Using non-jooish terms makes things clearer and takes away the emotional factor.
    It's clearer now. It's tiring people banging on against zionism or israel, as if this issue started in 1948. 

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  • It's clearer now. It's tiring people banging on against zionism or israel, as if this issue started in 1948.
    One can either choose to be "right" or effective.  If I go on and on about jewry, brainwashed people will ignore me because of "hate".  If I show them clips of Bill Gates or some other psychotic elite (who aren't Jєωιѕн, at least not commonly known to be), then you've got a chance to wake the person up about our enemies.  Being an αnтι-ѕємιтє is a losing battle, since WW2.  Fuentes is just being inflammatory for clicks and popularity.  His approach solves nothing, except to corral those who are attracted by a big-mouth.  I'd rather be effective vs right.