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Offline Meg

Re: The Montessori Method
« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2022, 11:14:08 AM »
However confused Montessori's personal theology was her teaching methods, which have no doubt been
substantially modified, are far more sensible than what goes on in contemporary gladiator academies(public schools).
If you want your child to be a complete drone than public schools are ideal. In addition to practical education being reduced to the lowest common denominator, expect your child to be exposed to the most coarse and vulgar
behavior and trends of popular culture, as their classmates will be walking ambassadors of this social dysfunction.

Montessori was correct in the sense that the role of education is help a child discover and encourage them in their true passions and talents.
I believe most people are unhappy not just because they shut God out of their lives but because they never
found their purpose or calling.
Many of those in the West dread going to work at meaningless jobs that are utterly unfulfilling.
We live in a horribly unnatural and artificial system compared to just about any other culture in human history.
Women are conditioned to focus on silly careers that preclude, delay or interfere with motherhood.
Men are no longer connected to the land or their community as bakers, farmers, blacksmiths, warriors, explorers,
craftsman. They are paper shufflers, bent over computer monitors and working on spreadsheets.
How do they cope with the monotony, the conformity?
Drugs, video games, an obsessive devotion to professional sports, alcoholism, porn, promiscuity.

Any independent, creative or imaginative child will flourish far more in a Montessori school

 
 

Just my opinion here, but I don't think I'd send my children to a Montessori school, even if the method has been substantially modified. Though it may of course be less dangerous than the public schools these days. I too used to believe that education should bring out the natural abilities of children, which is the main reason why I homeschooled, before my conversion. But now I'm inclined to think that that's not is what is so important, and that it's better to learn the three R's well, and to learn discipline, since our Faith requires discipline.

You are so right about us living in a horribly unnatural culture, for the reasons you've cited. It would be good if there were a way to train children in the old ways that you mention, such as how to be farmers, blacksmiths, warriors, explorers, etc. And in addition - for girls - cooking, crafts, sewing, household management, gardening, etc. I'm not sure that the Montessori method would lend itself toward this aim, but I don't really know enough about it to judge that.

Re: The Montessori Method
« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2022, 11:27:03 AM »
The purpose of life is to obey the hidden command which ensures harmony among all and creates an even better world. We are not created only to enjoy the world, we are created in order to evolve the cosmos” (Montessori 1949b: 90). Such writings are truly and unmistakably freemasonic and esoteric in their origin.
  And this is where she goes wrong, even if she didn't do anything else.  The Baltimore Catechism wisely states, in the very beginning, that the purpose of life is to know, love, and serve God in this life, and to be happy with Him forever in the next.

Without this, life is meaningless.


Offline Meg

Re: The Montessori Method
« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2022, 12:16:25 PM »
Meg, thank you for sharing your own personal experience and knowledge. Your post jogged my own memory.

I remembered that I had attended a theosophy meeting In Sydney, maybe 45 years back. I really could not work out what they were on about, and never went back. Also when I first met my husband he was an admirer of Krishnamurti, have attended some of his talks and read his writings. That didn’t jibe with me, either.

Then I recalled the psychotherapy training institute where I worked in London for 2 years. I had to allocate and book rooms and times for sessions. Each room was identified by a person’s name and one of those names was C W Leadbeater. I used to wonder who he was, so since your post I know. Now I realised that the Foundation I worked for was based on theosophical ideals.

A friend of mine (from the past, now deceased) belonged to the Liberal Catholic Church, and she was married, very unhappily, to a Bahai!

I will pray for your husband’s conversion to the true faith.

What a mess I escaped from, thanks be to a loving and merciful God.

Thank you so much for your prayers for my husband! I really appreciate it. I've been praying for him almost daily for many years, and I'm still hopeful that one day he will convert.

It's interesting to see that you too have some experience with Theosophy from long ago. My in-laws were big fans of Krishnamurti. Perhaps you are aware that the T.S. had chosen and trained him to be the world teacher (of the new religion), but he eventually declined that role, much to the disappointment of the T.S., but he never left behind his false beliefs as far as I know. London was a hot spot for Theosophy for some years. Not surprised that there was an institute there based on Theosophical ideals.

Yes, it is thanks to God that those of us who were error did leave it due to His great Love and Mercy, for which I will always be grateful.

There are some here who believe that the Novus Ordo is evil beyond compare, but there are far worse things to belong to and believe in, IMO. The ability of humans to cling to error is a very common thing these days. 

Re: The Montessori Method
« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2022, 12:17:42 PM »
However confused Montessori's personal theology was her teaching methods, which have no doubt been
substantially modified, are far more sensible than what goes on in contemporary gladiator academies(public schools).
If you want your child to be a complete drone than public schools are ideal. In addition to practical education being reduced to the lowest common denominator, expect your child to be exposed to the most coarse and vulgar
behavior and trends of popular culture, as their classmates will be walking ambassadors of this social dysfunction.

Montessori was correct in the sense that the role of education is help a child discover and encourage them in their true passions and talents.
I believe most people are unhappy not just because they shut God out of their lives but because they never
found their purpose or calling.
Many of those in the West dread going to work at meaningless jobs that are utterly unfulfilling.
We live in a horribly unnatural and artificial system compared to just about any other culture in human history.
Women are conditioned to focus on silly careers that preclude, delay or interfere with motherhood.
Men are no longer connected to the land or their community as bakers, farmers, blacksmiths, warriors, explorers,
craftsman. They are paper shufflers, bent over computer monitors and working on spreadsheets.
How do they cope with the monotony, the conformity?
Drugs, video games, an obsessive devotion to professional sports, alcoholism, porn, promiscuity.

Any independent, creative or imaginative child will flourish far more in a Montessori school

 
 
Children want to socialize and have fun. Ask a child if he prefers to study math, study lenguage or go play football with his friends, almost all of them will say to play football. That is why the Montessori method of leaving children on their own doesn't work. 

I'm not saying that you have to take it to public school, even less now that the satanists who govern us have turned it into a perversion machine. But well-planned homeschooling works much better than Montessori. Children need to learn discipline and have a well thought out and planned curriculum.

jobs. Okay, I'm Spanish and this may be different in the US.

But I think that the rejection of those jobs and the preference for more qualified jobs is because they are very poorly paid. Here a salary farm worker earns the minimum wage and many times even less because they work without a contract and earn less than the minimum wage. 

If that same worker had studied to be an engineer, doctor, high public worker, etc, he would be earning triple or more money. That is why most people prefer to study at the university than have a manual job.

When the construction bubble 20 years ago, a bricklayer earned double or more than now. Many young men left the high school to go to work at the construction site. 

Now hardly anyone wants to be a bricklayer, because the salaries are much lower, the working conditions are worse and massive immigration has greatly deteriorated this type of work, the same happens with the countryside salary jobs, etc.

Public job oppositions are overloaded with people who apply, even for a simple administrative assistant position, why? By vocation? No, because they are paid more than in the private sector and the labor agreement is respected, if they work overtime they are paid, they are not (illegally) forced to do overtime without getting paid as often happens in the private sector.

I remember that here in Murcia, when the government said it was going to multiply labor inspections by five, many businessmen in the agricultural and construction sectors got angry and even the minister received threats for this. ¿Why? Because many of them have their workers working without a contract to pay them less than what they put in the agreement, or they do overtime without getting paid, or they have illegal immigrants working for a pittance (then these are the same ones who complain about the problems of illegal immigration, that's the level of hypocrisy)

And people know this, that's why  in my opinion nobody wants those jobs. But when they paid well there was no this problem.

The main hobby of our elders were playing cards, dominoes or whatever was played in the town/village/city (here there was no difference between the urban or rural population)





Here this was called "Echar la partida" which would be translated as "play the game". 

we younger used to play this in college cafeteria in the class break:


They didn't play video games, it's true, but they played card or board games. I agree that board or card games are better than video games.

Re: The Montessori Method
« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2022, 05:36:54 PM »
However confused Montessori's personal theology was her teaching methods, which have no doubt been substantially modified, .....

Her personal theology was pantheist and the Montessori method is still pantheistic today. What makes you think think that any modifications have not been tailored for the purpose of getting a foot in the door of say, Catholic Catechetics?

Montessori was correct in the sense that the role of education is help a child discover and encourage them in their true passions and talents......

Speaking of true passions, the main problem is that the Montessori system denies the existence and influence of original sin and concupiscence on the child. Without instruction and discipline the child flounders.

Women are conditioned to focus on silly careers that preclude, delay or interfere with motherhood.......

Montessori is the perfect model of a rabid feminist. She bore one child, refused to marry so as not to put her career in jeopardy, and put her child up for foster care. Even if promoters are not themselves consciously feminist what has a pantheist system to offer to prevent or repair the ravages of feminism?

Any independent, creative or imaginative child will flourish far more in a Montessori school.

I would not be so sure. Depending on how he uses his talents, by the grace of the One True God such a child might make his way into His Kingdom, or the other hand would may end his days in despair.


You have me wondering if you read the article by Fr MacDonald or watched either of the videos