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Offline Zenith

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« on: May 19, 2011, 06:34:13 AM »
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  • I'm not sure how many people have seen this before as obviously Ted Bundy was executed a long while back though this powerful video and is an honest and accurate annalysis of where any form of pornography can lead, whether it is Mens sport magazines or Hard core pornography.

    It is a very steep and slippery slope.

    He says in here that every murderer he knew in prison had a history with pornography without exception.

    In another clip of Charles Manson, where he is asked what he thought of of Ted Bundy's confession and links to pornography, Charles Manson scoffed at the question and said, "Well I've been watching it all my life and there's nothing wrong with me!" or words to that effect.

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    « Reply #1 on: May 19, 2011, 10:16:24 AM »
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  • I dont know about Bundy, but with people like Manson it has very little (if anything) to do the regular porn addiction. People like him are tortured and programed monsters consecrated to the devil at a young age, not kids who happened to pick up an adult magazine or stumbled upon a porn site and ran with it.
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    « Reply #2 on: May 19, 2011, 04:49:02 PM »
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    I dont know about Bundy, but with people like Manson it has very little (if anything) to do the regular porn addiction. People like him are tortured and programed monsters consecrated to the devil at a young age, not kids who happened to pick up an adult magazine or stumbled upon a porn site and ran with it.


    Yes this may be true though Manson himself admits that he had watched it all his life. Ted Bundy in this video says that every murderer he knew in prison had a history with pornography, so what does that tell you?

    Did you watch the video? Like any addiction, it starts out with something small and if it is not stamped out then the addiction calls for more and more and a stronger "fix" just like drugs. A person could start out with binge drinking then move to marajuana and then Heroin and then Cocain, ect, etc...

    Its no different with pornography, people start by looking at the girl of the month calendars or mens sport mags and then to soft core and then to hard core and then it just get sicker and sicker. Lets face it, most people who look at the extreme sadomasochistic material would not have started with that sort of material as my guess is that any normal person would probably die of shock if that was their first encounter with pornography just as any normal non drug addict injected himself with a dose of cocain that a heavy cocain addict normally does would also die of an overdose straight away.

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    « Reply #3 on: May 19, 2011, 04:49:56 PM »
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  • Sorry thats cocaine, not cocain.

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    « Reply #4 on: May 19, 2011, 05:30:22 PM »
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    He says in here that every murderer he knew in prison had a history with pornography without exception.


    Probably 95% of men have a history with pornography, and that's a very moderate estimate.  Not that I'm excusing it or saying that anyone should watch it, of course, but in a time where the Church is under attack and the world has apostasized, people are slaves to whatever the devil wants to do with them.

    It is true that pornography breeds a desire to see more and more salacious things.  To say that it will drive people to become Charles Manson, well, it's possible though it would be uncommon.  I'd say more often it just leads to dehumanization and a spiritual estrangement between the sexes.  Pornography will give you a very diseased view of women.  It can lead to a sort of gnawing sɛҳuąƖ jealousy that can certainly lead to murder if someone is so inclined, in the same way as adultery, or even immodest dress ( like when you hear about a murderer who killed a girl because she was teasing men or whatever ).  

    I wonder how many women know just how fragile the male ego is or how much they play with fire when they tease and play around with certain men.  

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    « Reply #5 on: May 19, 2011, 05:49:45 PM »
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    He says in here that every murderer he knew in prison had a history with pornography without exception.


    Probably 95% of men have a history with pornography, and that's a very moderate estimate.  Not that I'm excusing it or saying that anyone should watch it, of course, but in a time where the Church is under attack and the world has apostasized, people are slaves to whatever the devil wants to do with them.

    It is true that pornography breeds a desire to see more and more salacious things.  To say that it will drive people to become Charles Manson, well, it's possible though it would be uncommon.  I'd say more often it just leads to dehumanization and a spiritual estrangement between the sexes.  Pornography will give you a very diseased view of women.  It can lead to a sort of gnawing sɛҳuąƖ jealousy that can certainly lead to murder if someone is so inclined, in the same way as adultery, or even immodest dress ( like when you hear about a murderer who killed a girl because she was teasing men or whatever ).  

    I wonder how many women know just how fragile the male ego is or how much they play with fire when they tease and play around with certain men.  



    Granted. Yes I am well aware that most men have a hisory of pornogrphy as I myself came across it many many times during my years in the navy. It is accepted as normal amoungst males and if you don't look at it then they think there is something wrong with you.
    I'm not saying that every guy that comes across this material is going to turn into a serial killer/rapist though I firmly believe that one of the major causes of crimes such as this is pornography. It certainly desensitises and dehumanises people and it is completely unnatural and unreal though when people watch it and become desensitised, it can become a type of frenzy and they want to fullfil that unnatural desire. Obviouly this does not happen in most men and if it does, it does not happen overnight but over a long period of time.

    Aside from the these more morbid side effects, pornography would be responsible for a large percentage of divorces and other family break downs as well as those you mentioned such as the viewing of women as objects to be used for pleasure.

    This is also the reason many people do not marry and commit to eachother, because why would you commit to one woman if you had a history of lusting after hundreds and thousands previously.

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    « Reply #6 on: May 19, 2011, 07:58:14 PM »
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  • Age, thou art shamed.*
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    « Reply #7 on: May 20, 2011, 12:12:48 AM »
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    But also listen to the audiosancto sermon. He talks about sacramentals and powerful prayers to protect against the devil. (for any temptation)

    Precious Blood wash over me and protect me from the wickedness and snares of the devil.

    It sounds like this priest has some experience with exorcism.
    Those are some powerful prayers.

    http://www.audiosancto.org/sermon/20070318-Sounding-the-Trumpet-Against-Pornography.html
     


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    « Reply #8 on: May 20, 2011, 12:14:45 AM »
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    Google:
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    But also listen to the audiosancto sermon. He talks about sacramentals and powerful prayers to protect against the devil. (for any temptation)

    Precious Blood wash over me and protect me from the wickedness and snares of the devil.

    It sounds like this priest has some experience with exorcism.
    Those are some powerful prayers.

    http://www.audiosancto.org/sermon/20070318-Sounding-the-Trumpet-Against-Pornography.html
     


    That priest is one of the two priests in my parish. He's probably the star of audiosancto. He's golden.
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    « Reply #9 on: May 20, 2011, 12:55:45 AM »
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    Porn Company is Amassing 1-800 numbers
    Records obtained by The Associated Press show that over the past 13 years, a little-known Philadelphia company called PrimeTel Communications has quietly gained control over nearly a quarter of all the 1-800 numbers in the U.S. and Canada, often by grabbing them the moment they are relinquished by previous users. As of March, it administered more 800 numbers that any other company, including Verizon and AT&T.

    --snip

    All those numbers contain messages redirecting callers to erotic chat lines operated by National A-1 Advertising, a company that shares an office building with PrimeTel, has common ownership and lists many of the same people as executives or business contacts.

    --snip

    The man listed on many government records as the top executive at both PrimeTel and National A-1, Richard Cohen declined interview requests.

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2011-04-19-phone-sex-800-numbers.htm

    Just found on a newsfeed, coincidentlly.



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    « Reply #10 on: May 20, 2011, 02:05:12 AM »
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    Thanks for the link, Zenith. I saw it and carefully pondered thereupon.

    The exposure to pornography may ultimately lead certain individuals (who may have already been predisposed to certain psychopathic patterns of behavior) to  dehumanize themselves in the process of dehumanizing the persons who are portrayed in the material in question by making them the objects of base and bestial desires and fantasies. In pieces they begin to lose themselves, and lose meaningful connections with others, and this is correlative to the intensification that carnal concupiscence experiences in its unceasing hankering for more pleasure.

    Alienated thus from self and others, the individual in question begins to lose the very notion of the dignity of the human person, and either with contempt, numb indifference or crazed lust does he (or she) behold others. No longer are they breathing and living people like the individual, but they are just pieces of meat, figments that thrill the retinas, for the individual himself has degraded himself to just a piece of meat, to a figment.

    Such an individual may be lead to more baser acts, even criminal behavior, just as exemplified by Bundy.

    In most cases, however, those who are caught in the vice of pornography do not become criminals (in the eyes of preset day civil law, that is), but give themselves over to a perpetual torpor of sɛҳuąƖ abuse that lulls them to a state of mediocrity, bereft of any authentic interior life, with only naturalistic and materialistic goals and aspirations. Morality is relevant and real only insofar as it useful and practical for them, and they lose the correct notion of religion, either giving up religion altogether or seeking it in idolatry, heresy, schism, or just plain crazy-town cults.

    These are the sorts of chaps who may end up as educators, as politicians, as voters, as consumers, as editors of publications, &c. This is why we have the sort of culture and government we have.
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    « Reply #11 on: May 20, 2011, 02:42:54 AM »
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    These are the sorts of chaps who may end up as educators


    Today's replacement of the word teachers by educators is interesting and, to my mind, not insignificant. What was your calculation in choosing that word instead of teachers?
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    « Reply #12 on: May 20, 2011, 03:32:23 AM »
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  • It was the murdered of St. Maria Goretti who talked about
    his own attraction to pornography, and at that time, it would probably
    seem to be quite "tame" compared to what is being shown these days.

    What I found amazing about this video was that Ted Bundy said that he was shocked that children these days are exposed to pornography far worse than what he was exposed to as a child and he found that very concerning. And that is from a serial killer.

    When they executed this man, they only removed a side effect of the problem and the problem is still there and thriving today.

    Of couse I believe he deserved to die as everyone must pay for their sins, though I hope he did repent for as the Our Lord says in Luke 15:7-10

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    I say to you, that even so there shall be joy in heaven upon one sinner that doth penance, more than upon ninety-nine just who need not penance. Or what woman having ten groats; if she lose one groat, doth not light a candle, and sweep the house, and seek diligently until she find it? And when she hath found it, call together her friends and neighbours, saying: Rejoice with me, because I have found the groat which I had lost. So I say to you, there shall be joy before the angels of God upon one sinner doing penance.


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    « Reply #13 on: May 20, 2011, 01:18:51 PM »
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    Today's replacement of the word teachers by educators is interesting and, to my mind, not insignificant. What was your calculation in choosing that word instead of teachers?


    Uh, I dunno why this would be interesting, but since you asked...

    I used an etymological criterion in order to select the term "educator" instead of "teacher," since it comes from the Latin educare, which is "to bring up," "to train," etc. To me, "educator" is a term that embraces all offices involved in the educational field at all levels of academic training (pedagogical theorists, college professors, deans, rectors, administrative staff, college student interns in academic institutions, classroom teachers, &c.) The term "teacher" bring to my mind someone who teaches children in a classroom, and I therefore perceive it as more narrowed and definite term. But that's just my personal view. "Teacher" is, of course, a general term that can be applied to anyone who teaches anyone anything, but in speaking of the academic world, this is the meaning that it tends to have for me.
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    « Reply #14 on: May 20, 2011, 01:21:48 PM »
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    What I found amazing about this video was that Ted Bundy said that he was shocked that children these days are exposed to pornography far worse than what he was exposed to as a child and he found that very concerning.


    Yes, this is what disturbs me the most. It is subtly pervading the very environment wherein most children are reared more and more as the decades pass by. I cannot see how children can be brought up to observe even natural law without the Catholic faith.

    This is why those traditional Catholics who sacrifice to have their children home schooled or taught at traditional Catholic schools are the recipients of many graces and they shall see the fruits of their sacrifice if they persevere in teaching their progeny aright by word and example.  
    Please ignore all that I have written regarding sedevacantism.