The book of Daniel talks about the good being purified during the anti Christ reign

I don't feel as though I'm being purified, I'm still struggling with sin.

Dows anyone else feel they are ? Has anybody been getting dreams from our Lord?

The book of Daniel talks about the good being purified during the anti Christ reign

I don't feel as though I'm being purified, I'm still struggling with sin.

Does anyone else feel they are ? Has anybody been getting dreams from our Lord?

I don't give a second thought to my own "purification".  I just live each day and try to do what God wants me to do. 

I don't think the Church has traditionally advised us to pay any attention to dreams and so on.  I just dream about random things, and these days, I stay so busy taking care of my family, I sleep very soundly, and not nearly enough.  Got a lot going on.

Well said MM.

To know our predominant temperament provides a way to seek purification by ridding ourselves of obstacles thus making space for God's graces to strengthen us.  We keep praying that we will be strong should martyrdom be in the offing, but we have to do our homework to show we mean it.

See attached.

Thank you.  I did read your attachment.  However, it is difficult to be objective about oneself in the "Method of Self-training" portion for each temperament.  I would think this is better done with the guidance of an ordained spiritual director.

It's also an unusual, though valuable, i.m.o., approach to sanctification, in that rather than addressing all of the Capital Sins, it emphasizes those vices most connected with our individual temperaments. I wonder how universally approved that approach is, among traditional priests, in terms of becoming purified before death.

Without going into detail it bears pointing out that most of us have been treated to a system of 'one-size-fits-all' and counselled to imitate the saints.The problem is though that the advice to a Choleric would differ to that given to a Sanguine, a Melancholic to a Plegmatic and so on.....

Yes.  Good point. 

And who has the great fortune 

to meet trained and trusted spiritual directors?   St. Teresa of Avila has a lot to say about that subject.   In today's situation it is virtually impossible for the majority of Catholics.

I had been under the guidance of one for many years, until recently.  Some trad priests are still doing SD, but none in my immediate area.

The advice given during a retreat was:  Be aware of the items listed in the dark side, do not judge yourself but acknowledge what you recognise as a fault; confess deliberate sins in the Sacrament of Penance before going to Mass.  Then, at the time the Chalice is raised for adoration pour your recognised faults/wounds into the Chalice that they may be healed by the wounds of Christ Himself.   We cannot heal our own wounds.   These are not sins, but they prevent us from making progress in purifying our souls.

A great number of Catholics have little or no access to traditional priests.   The advice given was that at such times pray through the Mass liturgy offering a spiritual Communion in union with Masses pleasing to Our Lord by faithful priests throughout the world.  Imagine you are still present at the last Mass you attended.

That sounds beautiful.  Did the retreat you mention feature temperaments as the theme?  Feel free to PM me as well.

Did the retreat you mention feature temperaments as the theme?  Feel free to PM me as well.

I would say it was the main theme.  The priest, over a period of time, made it his business to get to know each person in his small flock. I got the impression that he was being spiritually aware of the temperaments of each one of us.  Ever single person I met that spoke to him felt that he had given them the best advice they had ever had.  It seemed so effortless to him.  It is the first time I have experienced meeting a priest that was nothing but a priest - as if he had no other identity.   Having studied him myself for a while, I have come to the conclusion that he knew immediately the person's chief temperament, thereby he knew the beautiful qualities as well as the dark side.   He always gave very thoughtful answers to any one he spoke to individually, yet when addressing us all together he had a way of answering his questioner according to that person's temperament, yet saying nothing that would go against the rest of the flock with varying temperaments.   Reflecting on this further, (and of course that is all I am doing) I would say that the question and answer would prompt further enquiries from others-according-to-their-temperaments.  This latter is pure speculation on my part - but that is the best description of the peace that always prevailed during his Masses, sermons, catechism lessons - and when others spoke of how they had been helped.


He specifically went after the 'lost sheep' as he called us.  He encouraged us to invite non-catholics into a home if he said Mass there which he did, and would do, if it meant going after one of his strays.  
At the retreat we each had a print-out with lots of little drawings and diagrams that he used for us to refer to as he proceeded through each section.

The more I think about this, I realise that if priests are taught about the temperaments in their training - then such knowledge could be used to achieve a specific result....such as influencing a penitent to
believe what he believes.   I think it is the danger that a 'singular priest' can fall into even if his intentions are good.  I dare not touch on speculating (at least out loud) what damage a priest with evil intentions might bring about. (Ugh!)

Reply #8 was helpful, thank you.  You were very blessed to have that experience.
Was the retreat advertised as being about that?

Not specifically advertised as such MMagdala.  It was advertised as an Ignation Retreat, but it only lasted over two days (week-end).  
Indeed we were blessed.   We've been a long, long time in the cold.  By the grace of God this priest was trapped in Comrade Dan Andrews state of Victoria where I live.
All because of the Covid lockdown draconian measures he took.  A classic case of good coming out of evil.  

There has been zero from diocesan bishops for years.  And most in bed with Biden and Demoncrats

I need a retreat or vacation ASAP.

The question was more. , Do you feel you are being supernaturally purified ?

Yes.  But there are two parts to purification: the opportunity for it and the active assent to it.  I'm being given lots of invitations; whether I am always responding to those as I should is a separate question, but there is no question that the compelling call is there.