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The Dolorous Passion of Our Lord Jesus Christ
« on: March 28, 2020, 12:55:59 PM »
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  • My wife has been reading this book by Ann Catherine Emmerich throughout Lent, telling me one cannot imagine the pain and suffering Jesus went through to open Heaven up for us. This book, available from TAN, inspired Mel Gibson's film Passion Of The Christ. Given many of us are going to have time to read a bit more while our churches are closed, I can assure you this book will keep your faith foremost in your mind as we come closer to Easter.

    This morning she read out a chapter on Calvary to me and I found it fascinating. I have always known that there are no coincidences when it comes to the life and times of Jesus Christ. I remember once saying to myself that it was no coincidence that there was a donkey there for Jesus on Psalm Sunday. Even that had been planned from eternity. Such was my interest and willingness to share a little of this book with you now, that I typed this little chapter out on Calvary, the place we know where Jesus was crucified. Here is that chapter:

    On the Name of Calvary

    'While meditating on the name of Golgotha, Calvary, the place of skulls, borne by the rock upon which Jesus was crucified, I became deeply absorbed in contemplation, and beheld in spirit all ages from the time of Adam to that of Christ, and in this vision the knowledge of the name became known to me. I here give all that I remember on the subject.

    I saw Adam after his expulsion from Paradise, weeping in the grotto where Jesus sweated blood and water, on Mount Olivet. I saw how Seth was promised  to Eve in the grotto of the manger at Bethlehem, and how she brought him forth in that same grotto. I also saw Eve living in the same caverns near Hebron, where the Essenian Monastery of Maspha was afterwards established. I then beheld the country where Jerusalem was built, as if it appeared after the Deluge, and the land was all unsettled black, stony, and very different from what it had been before. At an immense depth  below the rock which constitutes Mount Calvary (which was formed in this spot by the rolling of the waters), I saw the tomb of Adam and Eve. The head and one rib were wanting to one of the skeletons, and the remaining head was placed within the same skeleton, to which it did not belong. The bones of Adam and Eve had not all been left in the grave, for Noah had some of them with him in the Arc, and they were transmitted from generation to generation by the Patriarchs. Noah and also Abraham, were in the habit, when offering sacrifice, of always laying some of Adam’s bones upon ther altar, to remind the Almighty of his promise.  When Jacob gave Joseph his variegated robe, he at the same time gave him some bones of Adam, to be kept as relics. Joseph always wore them on his bosom, and they were placed with his own bones in the first reliquary which the children of Israel brought out of Egypt. Ihave seen many similar things, but some I have forgotten, and the others time fails me to describe.

    As regards the origin of Calvary, I here give all I know. I beheld the mountain that bears this name as it was in the time of the Prophet Eliseus. It was not the same then as at the time of Our Lord’s Crucifixion, but was a hill, with many walls and caverns, resembling tombs, upon it. I saw the prophet Eliseus descend into these caverns. I cannot say in reality or only in a vision, and I saw him take out a skull from a stone sepulchre in which the bones were resting. Someone who was by his side – I think an angel – said to him, “this is the skull of Adam.” The prophet was desirous to take it away but his companion forbid him. I saw upon the skull a few hairs of fair colour.

    I learned also that the prophet having related what had happened to him, the spot received the name of Calvary. Finally I saw that the cross of Jesus was placed vertically over the skull of Adam. I was informed that this spot was exactly the centre of the Earth; and at the same time I was shown the numbers  and measures proper to every country, but I have forgotten them individually as well as in general. Yes, I have seen this centre from above, as it were from a birds-eye view. In that was a person sees far more clearly than on a map all the different countries, mountains, deserts, seas, rivers, towns and even the smallest places, whether distant or near at hand.

     As I was meditating on these words ot thoughts of Jesus when hanging on the Cross: “I am pleased like wine placed here under the press for the first time; my blood must continue to flow until water comes, but wine shall no more be made here.” Asn explanation weas given me by means of another vision relating to Calvary. I saw this rocky country at a period anterior to the Deluge; it was then less wild and less barren rthan it afterwards became, and was laid out in vineyards and fields.


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    Re: The Dolorous Passion of Our Lord Jesus Christ
    « Reply #1 on: March 28, 2020, 01:15:39 PM »
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  • One of the revelations in the passage above that caught my imagination was the reference to Calvary as being at the centre of the Earth. I had heard this before but could never figure out how this could be. Now as many of you know I am a geocentrist. Geocentrists believe the Earth is at the centre of the universe otherwise known as the world. I recall writing 'It is fitting that Jesus Christ, our God, should have lived and died at the centre of His creation.'

    But according to the knowledge infused to Catherine Emmerich in her visions, she tells us that where Jesus died was at the centre of the Earth. This surely adds credence to the geocentrist view of God, not only living at the centre of the universe, but even dying at the centre of the Earth. But how does one determine the centre of the Earth in this context?

    It is said when God created the Earth and divided it into land and sea, it was one large portion of land surrounded by sea. It was the Deluge of Noah that caused its division into the lands and seas we now know. If one could extrapolate all back to that first piece of land that God created, I'll bet Calvary was at its centre.


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    Re: The Dolorous Passion of Our Lord Jesus Christ
    « Reply #2 on: March 28, 2020, 01:31:01 PM »
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  • Thank you, Cassini.  I would like to read the book sometime.  

    Donkeys have a cross on their back.  (Mary and Joseph rode a donkey while Jesus was in her womb. )

    May God bless you and keep you

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    Re: The Dolorous Passion of Our Lord Jesus Christ
    « Reply #3 on: March 28, 2020, 04:54:15 PM »
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  • Ideas and visions of Katherina von Emmerich were written by Clemens Brentano and nobody can distiguish between fantasies of Brentano and utterances of Emmerich. 
    Men are not bound, or able to read hearts; but when they see that someone is a heretic by his external works, they judge him to be a heretic pure and simple ... Jerome points this out. (St. Robert Bellarmine)

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    Re: The Dolorous Passion of Our Lord Jesus Christ
    « Reply #4 on: March 28, 2020, 05:56:19 PM »
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  • Ideas and visions of Katherina von Emmerich were written by Clemens Brentano and nobody can distiguish between fantasies of Brentano and utterances of Emmerich.

    Well I for one Struthio totally accept the Passion of Christ exactly as recorded in the book. Why is there always a sceptic to bring doubt about a description what has always been the teaching of the Church? As regards Calvary and its association with Adam's grave, well that too is acceptable to me for it too is very believable to Catholics.


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    Re: The Dolorous Passion of Our Lord Jesus Christ
    « Reply #5 on: April 04, 2020, 02:06:21 PM »
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  • One of the revelations in the passage above that caught my imagination was the reference to Calvary as being at the centre of the Earth. I had heard this before but could never figure out how this could be. Now as many of you know I am a geocentrist. Geocentrists believe the Earth is at the centre of the universe otherwise known as the world. I recall writing 'It is fitting that Jesus Christ, our God, should have lived and died at the centre of His creation.'

    But according to the knowledge infused to Catherine Emmerich in her visions, she tells us that where Jesus died was at the centre of the Earth. This surely adds credence to the geocentrist view of God, not only living at the centre of the universe, but even dying at the centre of the Earth. But how does one determine the centre of the Earth in this context?

    It is said when God created the Earth and divided it into land and sea, it was one large portion of land surrounded by sea. It was the Deluge of Noah that caused its division into the lands and seas we now know. If one could extrapolate all back to that first piece of land that God created, I'll bet Calvary was at its centre.
    It seems to point to flat earth more than geocentrism. 

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    Re: The Dolorous Passion of Our Lord Jesus Christ
    « Reply #6 on: April 04, 2020, 02:43:30 PM »
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  • Well I for one Struthio totally accept the Passion of Christ exactly as recorded in the book. Why is there always a sceptic to bring doubt about a description what has always been the teaching of the Church? As regards Calvary and its association with Adam's grave, well that too is acceptable to me for it too is very believable to Catholics.


    I bring doubt about Clemens Brentano and his writings. And I do not bring doubt about what has always been the teaching of the Church.

    I do though recommend to use Church sources to find out what has always been the teaching of the Church. And Clemens Brentano was a womaniser not known for orthodoxy.

    I am sure, you're able to suffer my comment.
    Men are not bound, or able to read hearts; but when they see that someone is a heretic by his external works, they judge him to be a heretic pure and simple ... Jerome points this out. (St. Robert Bellarmine)