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Offline Meg

Re: The Coyote Saint
« Reply #100 on: July 26, 2018, 10:19:26 AM »
Many people fled Mexico during the Cristeros war and entered the United States without docuмentation.


How do you know that a lot of people fled Mexico and entered the U.S. illegally at that time? 

Offline Meg

Re: The Coyote Saint
« Reply #101 on: July 26, 2018, 11:32:50 AM »

How do you know that a lot of people fled Mexico and entered the U.S. illegally at that time?

Well, I found an answer to my question. It seems that a great many Mexicans did indeed flee to the U.S. at that time.

However, I found several websites that show that Toribio Romo was adamantly opposed to Mexicans going to the U.S. A distant relative of his (second cousin, once removed) wrote an article for Texas Monthly in 2010, after doing a lot of research about his cousin, Fr. Toribio Romo.

This cousin tells a different side of the story of Fr. Toribio Romo. The Texas Monthly article describes Fr. Toribio Romo's opposition to his parishioners going to the U.S.; and in fact, Father had even written a one-act play, called "Let's Go North!" in which he warned against going north to the U.S.

Here's his description of Fr. Toribio Romo's play:

"If you betray your country and go north, Toribio's play warned its Mexican audience, you might come back as a "rooster hen that neither crows no lays eggs." Or worse, a Protestant. Take a look at what becomes of the Mexican who goes north, Sancho says at the end of the play. He ends up a man without a religion, without a country or home....a coward, an afeminado who is incapable of feeling shame for having abandoned responsibilities to his family. Despite this the roads are packed with Mexicans headed towards the United States, in search of bitter bread. Everywhere you hear the rallying cry - "Let's go north!" "

The author of the article says that Fr. Toribio Romo did everything he could to keep his parishioners in Mexico from leaving home.

https://www.texasmonthly.com/articles/my-tio-the-saint/


Re: The Coyote Saint
« Reply #102 on: July 26, 2018, 11:59:55 AM »
Well, I found an answer to my question. It seems that a great many Mexicans did indeed flee to the U.S. at that time.

However, I found several websites that show that Toribio Romo was adamantly opposed to Mexicans going to the U.S. A distant relative of his (second cousin, once removed) wrote an article for Texas Monthly in 2010, after doing a lot of research about his cousin, Fr. Toribio Romo.

This cousin tells a different side of the story of Fr. Toribio Romo. The Texas Monthly article describes Fr. Toribio Romo's opposition to his parishioners going to the U.S.; and in fact, Father had even written a one-act play, called "Let's Go North!" in which he warned against going north to the U.S.

Here's his description of Fr. Toribio Romo's play:

"If you betray your country and go north, Toribio's play warned its Mexican audience, you might come back as a "rooster hen that neither crows no lays eggs." Or worse, a Protestant. Take a look at what becomes of the Mexican who goes north, Sancho says at the end of the play. He ends up a man without a religion, without a country or home....a coward, an afeminado who is incapable of feeling shame for having abandoned responsibilities to his family. Despite this the roads are packed with Mexicans headed towards the United States, in search of bitter bread. Everywhere you hear the rallying cry - "Let's go north!" "

The author of the article says that Fr. Toribio Romo did everything he could to keep his parishioners in Mexico from leaving home.

https://www.texasmonthly.com/articles/my-tio-the-saint/
Good quick find Meg. Well, there you go, another JPII politically correct "saint",  "the coyote saint", is shown to be an invention. (In 2000, "Pope" John Paul II canonized him and 24 other Catholics martyred in the war.)

Re: The Coyote Saint
« Reply #103 on: July 26, 2018, 12:03:54 PM »
Here's his description of Fr. Toribio Romo's play:

"If you betray your country and go north, Toribio's play warned its Mexican audience, you might come back as a "rooster hen that neither crows no lays eggs." Or worse, a Protestant. Take a look at what becomes of the Mexican who goes north, Sancho says at the end of the play. He ends up a man without a religion, without a country or home....a coward, an afeminado ( an effeminate)  who is incapable of feeling shame for having abandoned responsibilities to his family. 

The author of the article says that Fr. Toribio Romo did everything he could to keep his parishioners in Mexico from leaving home.

https://www.texasmonthly.com/articles/my-tio-the-saint/
Everything he said is true. 

Offline Matthew

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Re: The Coyote Saint
« Reply #104 on: July 26, 2018, 12:52:48 PM »
Many people fled Mexico during the Cristeros war and entered the United States without docuмentation.

And the criminals (and they are all 100% criminals) entering the US illegally today are suffering armed persecution for their Catholic beliefs? I don't think so.

They want a comfy life and more luxuries. They usually fall away from the Faith shortly after coming here, too.

But unlike LEGAL immigrants in the past, such as those from Europe:

1. The illegal Mexican immigrants choose to break the law
2. They want no part of America or being American except for the money they can make here. They want to bring Mexico with them. If enough of them come, they will turn American into Mexico part 2. The European LEGAL immigrants, on the other hand, were willing to assimilate. They learned and spoke English for example. They didn't try to change the country they moved to.