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Offline Viva Cristo Rey

Re: The Coyote Saint
« Reply #90 on: July 23, 2018, 08:18:47 AM »
The present generation that is coming to USA is coming for free medical, housing, food, clothes and cash.   And this is includes people coming from Muslim countries and Asians.  They aren't working.  

Daca equals brainwashed clueless immoral millenials    
They are pawns of the Democratic Party.  Dems want free college to further brainwash them.  

Sanctuary cities equal welfare cities where sex trafficking and drugs and exploitation by their own people. Some are working under table while working.  

Many have left the Catholic Church and started their own heretic Church.  The NO has special parishes with Spanish Protestant masses.  No 4 marks. 

Many leaves spouses behind and take new spouses and create new families.   Most children are in government brainwashing daycare called Reach. 

The generation x of women immigrants cook, sew , clean and work in fields and were good Catholics.  This Daca generation are lazy and protest our President when they should protest their own.  Daca are liberal feminists who can't boil water.  They want big money for little work. Dada males are gender brainwashed after they leave free college.  And Daca children become like American millennials who are Communist atheists.  Daca and American millennials especially the females have a handbook that they must wear pajamas and wear thick ugly glasses.

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Offline poche

Re: The Coyote Saint
« Reply #91 on: July 23, 2018, 08:52:07 AM »
Quote from: klasG4e on July 23, 2018, 03:21:42 AM
No, a more nominally Catholic population would not necessarily be an improvement.  The corruption of the best (Catholics) is the worst corruption and sad to say most of the Catholic population both North and South of the border is quite corrupt in a lot more ways than one.

But let's keep things on track.   The OP was about a novus ordo saint.  I couldn't find any official canonization degree on him at the Vatican's website or anywhere else.  The scarce biographical information I did find out about him makes him appear rather unremarkable, especially for a priest in Mexico at the time of his priesthood.
He was a martyr. He gave his life for Christ during the Cristero war. 
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Offline AlligatorDicax

"Martyr"?/Re: The Coyote Saint
« Reply #92 on: July 23, 2018, 12:00:57 PM »
Quote from: poche on July 23, 2018, 08:52:07 AM

He was a martyr.  He gave his life for Christ during the Cristero war.

I'm sure that both claims would be made to honor every faithful Catholic--especially all clergy--who died as a result of that war in defense of the Catholic faith.  What qualified Toribio Romo González as a modernist saint, and as distinctly more worthy than other clergy who died?  It was under the Novus Ordo "churn 'em out" rules of "John Paul II" Wojtyła that he qualified, was it not?

Despite the articles cited in this topic promoting the alleged Novus Ordo saint being quite easily accessible to interested readers via an ordinary link from your posted URLs, you've refused to let it go at that, instead beating the drum by posting short excerpts of those same articles [#].  But you've been suspiciously uninformative about the exact circuмstances of his death.

Let's get real : Being shot to death by unidentified person(s) while he was sleeping in "his" "home" hardly seems to qualify for sainthood.

In particular, that means that he was not shot in a rectory nor monastery.  So he was obviously also not shot in a church or chapel while in the act of providing the sacraments to the faithful.

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Offline poche

Re: "Martyr"?/Re: The Coyote Saint
« Reply #93 on: July 23, 2018, 10:30:33 PM »
Quote from: AlligatorDicax on July 23, 2018, 12:00:57 PM
I'm sure that both claims would be made to honor every faithful Catholic--especially all clergy--who died as a result of that war in defense of the Catholic faith.  What qualified Toribio Romo González as a modernist saint, and as distinctly more worthy than other clergy who died?  It was under the Novus Ordo "churn 'em out" rules of "John Paul II" Wojtyła that he qualified, was it not?

Despite the articles cited in this topic promoting the alleged Novus Ordo saint being quite easily accessible to interested readers via an ordinary link from your posted URLs, you've refused to let it go at that, instead beating the drum by posting short excerpts of those same articles [#].  But you've been suspiciously uninformative about the exact circuмstances of his death.

Let's get real : Being shot to death by unidentified person(s) while he was sleeping in "his" "home" hardly seems to qualify for sainthood.

In particular, that means that he was not shot in a rectory nor monastery.  So he was obviously also not shot in a church or chapel while in the act of providing the sacraments to the faithful.

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Note #: So that their accuмulated text eventually seems to contain the entire articles for which you previously provided a fully operational URL.  It's antisocially spammy activity that's transparently intended to bloat your postings-count on CathInfo, adding to what you've already done thro' your other postings-count-bloating habits.  "Hero Member" my [donkey]!
His home was the parish rectory.
There are different aspects of his life and his holiness that bear separate postings. For example as a saint he is known for being the saint who is there when someone lost in the desert needs help. Most of the time he gives the help that the people need and want. Every now and then he may tell someone that they should go back, that it is not the will of God for them to go to the United States.
It is interesting that this saint, known for helping those who are lost in the desert, in life was against the migration of Mexicans to the United States. He even wrote a play making fun of the migrant who went to the United States and came back looking like a fool.      
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Offline poche

Re: The Coyote Saint
« Reply #94 on: July 24, 2018, 11:46:45 PM »
Father Toribio Romo later became one of the 25 Mexican Martyrs of the Cristero War honored by the Catholic Church. He was later beatified and then canonized.  Since his canonization in the year 2000 great interest has developed in the saint and thousands of people flock to the tiny town of Santa Ana de Guadalupe to visit his shrine and to see where he spent his youth.  As with many shrines in Mexico, supporting businesses have grown up alongside the attraction to serve the multitudes of pilgrims who come each year.  Where there were no restaurants in Santa Ana, there are now 3, along with an ice cream shop and many other stores to cater to tourists.  It was said by one of the locals that Santo Toribio managed to accomplish in death what he couldn’t in life:  the local population is more permanent now.  The people of Santa Ana are not forced to go to the United States looking for work, rather, they now live off the steady income that the tourist trade provides.

http://mexicounexplained.com/saint-toribio-romo-mexican-martyr-angelic-coyote/

He is like Father Pro. Father Pro always said that he would like to win the lottery. today the location where he was put to death is now the headquarters of the Mexican lottery,
 :laugh1: :laugh1: :laugh1: 
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