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Offline DigitalLogos

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Re: The Conversion of Shia
« Reply #30 on: September 07, 2022, 10:19:17 AM »
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    • Quote from: josefamenendez on September 07, 2022, 10:12:27 AM
    No it's true- Shia as Pio Says the F bomb to a woman(?) in a scene who he suspects is the devil. It's in one of the trailers listed for the Venice film festival.
    :facepalm: My bad.

    I'm not watching this.

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    Francesco (Padre Pio) didn’t like to go out and play with children his age because, as he said, “They are not honest; they use bad language, and they swear.”
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    Re: The Conversion of Shia
    « Reply #31 on: September 17, 2022, 06:42:48 PM »
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    • Quote from: Incredulous on September 07, 2022, 08:32:39 AM

    I missed it, in his Padre Pio movie trailer, where he acts out the Saint telling a woman to: “Shut the F up!”

    This is a big red flag 🚩

    Italian temper? Yes.
    But since Padre Pio was uniquely graced with a supernatural stigmata very early in his priesthood, I absolutely doubt he uttered the F bomb.

    In addition, if you have read Chiesa Viva’s research and expose’ on the masonic Padre Pio shrine, you will understand that our Saint is a special target of the devil.

    The fact that Shia is Jєωιѕн and has been mentored by Mel (Marrano) Gibson are more red flags 🚩 🚩

    As you may recall, in Gibson’s “Passion of Christ” he brought to life the Protestant heresy of Our Lord crushing the head of the serpent, when in fact, that act is an exclusive license of Our Lady.

    Gibson knew what he was doing when he created that scene. 

    And if Shia is a zealous convert to tradition, as he wants us to believe, he wouldn’t have done the F bomb scene.
    https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/who-will-crush-the-serpents-head
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    Re: The Conversion of Shia
    « Reply #32 on: September 17, 2022, 07:26:28 PM »
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    • Jimmy Akin not exactly a reliable (Catholic) apologist or source.
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    Re: The Conversion of Shia
    « Reply #33 on: September 17, 2022, 10:31:41 PM »
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    • Quote from: Incredulous on September 07, 2022, 08:32:39 AM

    I missed it, in his Padre Pio movie trailer, where he acts out the Saint telling a woman to: “Shut the F up!”

    This is a big red flag 🚩

    Italian temper? Yes.
    But since Padre Pio was uniquely graced with a supernatural stigmata very early in his priesthood, I absolutely doubt he uttered the F bomb.

    In addition, if you have read Chiesa Viva’s research and expose’ on the masonic Padre Pio shrine, you will understand that our Saint is a special target of the devil.

    The fact that Shia is Jєωιѕн and has been mentored by Mel (Marrano) Gibson are more red flags 🚩 🚩

    As you may recall, in Gibson’s “Passion of Christ” he brought to life the Protestant heresy of Our Lord crushing the head of the serpent, when in fact, that act is an exclusive license of Our Lady.

    Gibson knew what he was doing when he created that scene. 

    And if Shia is a zealous convert to tradition, as he wants us to believe, he wouldn’t have done the F bomb scene.


    Not to nitpick, but he told her to "Get the F out".

    It's hard for me to be shocked by anything from Hollywood, but this clip really shocked me. And shame on this wretched man for portraying Padre Pio speaking in such a filthy manner. In this scene he is admonishing this evil woman about the state of her soul and telling her she will be condemned to hell if she doesn't repent, and his demeanor is very spiritual, and all of a sudden he starts screaming obscenities at her. The whole thing is completely disgusting, and I have to say, if this guy is going to portray this kind of behavior and attribute it to a saint like Padre Pio in a movie, then I really question what kind of conversion he had.
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    Re: The Conversion of Shia
    « Reply #34 on: September 18, 2022, 07:38:01 AM »
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    • Well, Yeti, to his credit, its not like he converted while he was in the role. He converted after portraying the role. Second, the director has made very filthy films in the past, why he is helming a Pio movie is beyond me. Third, the just man falls seven times a day [Prov. 24:16], yet Pio abhorred this kind of language, even under duress. This is out of character and should be removed.
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    Re: The Conversion of Shia
    « Reply #35 on: September 18, 2022, 09:03:03 AM »
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    • Quote from: Incredulous on September 07, 2022, 08:32:39 AM

    The fact that Shia is Jєωιѕн and has been mentored by Mel (Marrano) Gibson are more red flags 🚩 🚩

    As you may recall, in Gibson’s “Passion of Christ” he brought to life the Protestant heresy of Our Lord crushing the head of the serpent, when in fact, that act is an exclusive license of Our Lady.

    Gibson knew what he was doing when he created that scene. 
    What makes you say that Mel Gibson is Marrano?  I thought he was from a Catholic family and I read that he holds the sedeprivationist position?  Is it because of this scene in his movie?
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    Re: The Conversion of Shia
    « Reply #36 on: September 18, 2022, 02:35:52 PM »
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    • Quote from: DigitalLogos on September 18, 2022, 07:38:01 AM
    Well, Yeti, to his credit, its not like he converted while he was in the role. He converted after portraying the role. Second, the director has made very filthy films in the past, why he is helming a Pio movie is beyond me. Third, the just man falls seven times a day [Prov. 24:16], yet Pio abhorred this kind of language, even under duress. This is out of character and should be removed.
    It’s not good, but to expect a brand new convert to instantly recognize this AND push for its removal or he isn’t genuine feels overly perfectionist
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    Re: The Conversion of Shia
    « Reply #37 on: September 18, 2022, 02:47:31 PM »
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    • Quote from: Melanie on September 18, 2022, 09:03:03 AM
    What makes you say that Mel Gibson is Marrano?  I thought he was from a Catholic family and I read that he holds the sedeprivationist position?  Is it because of this scene in his movie?

    Most people on here know that I don’t hold the Fr. Feeney position on EENS, but Gibson, from what I’ve heard from his own mouth, holds an undeniably heretical view on EENS. With that said, I don’t have any reason to believe that he’s a marrano.
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    Re: The Conversion of Shia
    « Reply #38 on: September 18, 2022, 02:50:34 PM »
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    • Quote from: ByzCat3000 on September 18, 2022, 02:35:52 PM
    It’s not good, but to expect a brand new convert to instantly recognize this AND push for its removal or he isn’t genuine feels overly perfectionist
    Exactly. We are all sinners and constantly converting.

    I've seen people use foul language on CI. What's their excuse? Is their Catholic belief disingenuous? It doesn't excuse the film or the writers for putting such obscenity in the mouth of a holy monk, but let's not get beyond ourselves here and start judging the guy's move toward the Truth just because he isn't perfect right out of the gate. His own words in the interview paint him as a much more genuine Catholic than the so-called "bishop" interviewing him.
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    Re: The Conversion of Shia
    « Reply #39 on: September 20, 2022, 03:08:49 PM »
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    • Quote from: Quo vadis Domine on September 18, 2022, 02:47:31 PM
    Most people on here know that I don’t hold the Fr. Feeney position on EENS, but Gibson, from what I’ve heard from his own mouth, holds an undeniably heretical view on EENS. With that said, I don’t have any reason to believe that he’s a marrano.
    What’s the “undeniably heretical” view that he holds and is it actually any different than what Lefebvre held?
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    Re: The Conversion of Shia
    « Reply #40 on: September 20, 2022, 04:11:14 PM »
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    • Quote from: DigitalLogos on September 18, 2022, 02:50:34 PM
    ... let's not get beyond ourselves here and start judging the guy's move toward the Truth just because he isn't perfect right out of the gate. ...
    Weren't you the one that failed to watch the trailer first, rushed to his defense anyway, and then did a quick "my bad" as an apology? That didn't seem to slow you down at all.

    Quote from: DigitalLogos on September 07, 2022, 08:53:28 AM
    The saint does not say that. Just some extra in a scene unrelated to Pio. Watch the trailer instead of rashly judging.
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    :facepalm: My bad.

    I'm not watching this.
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    Re: The Conversion of Shia
    « Reply #41 on: October 12, 2022, 06:10:24 AM »
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    • Gang sign.  Not easy to do.  Try it.

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    Re: The Conversion of Shia
    « Reply #42 on: October 12, 2022, 06:28:09 AM »
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    • Quote from: Miser Peccator on October 12, 2022, 06:10:24 AM
    Gang sign.  Not easy to do.  Try it.

    It's great to see you necrobump this thread just to dredge up more trash right after we discussed the fact that charity requires we give people the benefit of the doubt unless you have evidence to the contrary.

    So, holding a baseball cap against your stomach is a gang sign.  I'm not all that "hip" to gang signs, but this looks like how I would hold a baseball cap against my stomach.  He probably took it off out of respect, and with his other arm behind Barron's back, he's finding a somewhat dignified way to hold it while posing for a picture.

    It would be no wonder if Shia gravitated toward Barron and the Conciliar Church instead of Traditional Catholicism with this garbage out there.  I pray that the man doesn't come on here and read this crap.
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    Re: The Conversion of Shia
    « Reply #43 on: October 12, 2022, 06:35:26 AM »
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    • Quote from: ByzCat3000 on September 20, 2022, 03:08:49 PM
    What’s the “undeniably heretical” view that he holds and is it actually any different than what Lefebvre held?

    I'm not 100% sure what he's referring to, but the only thing I recall was when he was saying that his wife was a better Christian than he was.  But there may be more.  As Quo said, however, it's probably just due to human respect and not wanting to "offend" the Hollywood types that he spouts a religious indifferentist line.

    Mel Gibson is a bit of a schizophrenic.  You can see it with the way his eyes are always darting (I've seen it in other people too) ... where he's having an argument or a conversation with himself in his own head.  He's almost a split personality.  There's the Traditional Catholic part of him that's constantly fighting with the Hollywood Mel side of him.

    He's got plenty of money and just needs to retire from that scene completely so that he can set about saving his soul ... and getting some peace of soul.
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    Re: The Conversion of Shia
    « Reply #44 on: October 12, 2022, 07:19:15 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on October 12, 2022, 06:35:26 AM
    Mel Gibson is a bit of a schizophrenic.  You can see it with the way his eyes are always darting (I've seen it in other people too) ... where he's having an argument or a conversation with himself in his own head.  He's almost a split personality.  There's the Traditional Catholic part of him that's constantly fighting with the Hollywood Mel side of him.
    Okay but that's your opinion. I didn't know you were a psychiatrist, too.

    Quote from: Ladislaus on October 12, 2022, 06:28:09 AM
    It's great to see you necrobump this thread just to dredge up more trash right after we discussed the fact that charity requires we give people the benefit of the doubt unless you have evidence to the contrary.
    More opinion. Your not considering it proof does not dismiss any evidence presented.
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