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Traditional Catholic Faith => Catholic Living in the Modern World => Topic started by: Aleah on August 25, 2022, 08:17:47 PM
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https://youtu.be/hjxKG4mR3U4
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https://www.cathinfo.com/catholic-living-in-the-modern-world/shia-labeouf-to-play-padre-pio!/msg843183/#msg843183
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Thanks! I ran a search before posting but I must not have used the correct keywords.
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Good video. I watched only the first 15 minutes of the video so far. At minute 12:02, Shia says...."The Latin Mass affects me deeply, deeply....." He then goes on to say that certain NO masses affect him deeply, too, but at least he sees something in the TLM, and he seems willing to learn.
The idiot Bp. Barron appears to be learning a thing or two also, from this interview, but he could just be pretending. I can't stand Bp. Barron. Barron is the only drawback so far to this video.
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Conversion is one thing, living as a Catholic is another. I hope someone tells him of the commandments of God and of His Church. That is the condition of a conversion.
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Conversion is one thing, living as a Catholic is another. I hope someone tells him of the commandments of God and of His Church. That is the condition of a conversion.
What are you talking about? If he has enough sense and knowledge to be able to contrast the Tridentine Mass with the NOM, he surely has heard about the commandments. If this was an oblique attack on his past sinful life, then why are you attempting to hold his past against him to the point of impugning his conversion?
That this comment somehow received thumbs-up from people I find rather disturbing.
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What are you talking about? If he has enough sense and knowledge to be able to contrast the Tridentine Mass with the NOM, he surely has heard about the commandments. If this was an oblique attack on his past sinful life, then why are you attempting to hold his past against him to the point of impugning his conversion?
That this comment somehow received thumbs-up from people I find rather disturbing.
This is the first time I ever read about a guy called Shia. I have no idea of his past life. How dare you suggest I was referring to his 'sins' when I made the very obvious conditions of 'conversion,' that is, keep the commandments. I know many who have attended the TM and who left and are no longer the perfect non-sinning traditionalists you seem to think they all are. Tell me how many who post on CIF have not a sinful past, including myself?
As for those thumbs-up people, I have no doubt they agreed with the principle that true conversion is not just going to the TM but living a Catholic life thereafter. You suggest they too were attacking Shia's past sinful life which is totally unfounded..
As for thumbs up and down, I find those thumb downers far more disturbing. They remind me of those driven to ѕυιcιdє from the bullies who anonymously text insults to others. If I had my way I would do away with the secret thumbs up and down which only result in ceasing true debate.
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This is the first time I ever read about a guy called Shia. I have no idea of his past life. How dare you suggest I was referring to his 'sins' when I made the very obvious conditions of 'conversion,' that is, keep the commandments. I know many who have attended the TM and who left and are no longer the perfect non-sinning traditionalists you seem to think they all are. Tell me how many who post on CIF have not a sinful past, including myself?
As for those thumbs-up people, I have no doubt they agreed with the principle that true conversion is not just going to the TM but living a Catholic life thereafter. You suggest they too were attacking Shia's past sinful life which is totally unfounded..
As for thumbs up and down, I find those thumb downers far more disturbing. They remind me of those driven to ѕυιcιdє from the bullies who anonymously text insults to others. If I had my way I would do away with the secret thumbs up and down which only result in ceasing true debate.
Thanks for clarifying your other post. I wasn't sure what you meant by it exactly. Don't understand why you were downvoted for it though.
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This is the first time I ever read about a guy called Shia. I have no idea of his past life. How dare you suggest I was referring to his 'sins' when I made the very obvious conditions of 'conversion,' that is, keep the commandments. I know many who have attended the TM and who left and are no longer the perfect non-sinning traditionalists you seem to think they all are. Tell me how many who post on CIF have not a sinful past, including myself?
As for those thumbs-up people, I have no doubt they agreed with the principle that true conversion is not just going to the TM but living a Catholic life thereafter. You suggest they too were attacking Shia's past sinful life which is totally unfounded..
As for thumbs up and down, I find those thumb downers far more disturbing. They remind me of those driven to ѕυιcιdє from the bullies who anonymously text insults to others. If I had my way I would do away with the secret thumbs up and down which only result in ceasing true debate.
Agree with paragraph 1 and 2.
As for paragraph 3, perhaps people thumb-down because they dis-"agree with the principle"?
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I really enjoyed that video. Now I'm curious how good the movie turned out.
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The idiot Bp. Barron appears to be learning a thing or two also, from this interview, but he could just be pretending. I can't stand Bp. Barron. Barron is the only drawback so far to this video.
Barron teaches "even atheists of good will can be saved and go to Heaven"
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Barron teaches "even atheists of good will can be saved and go to Heaven"
Barron is one of the worst. On another show, he was basically condoning sodomy.
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Barron is one of the worst. On another show, he was basically condoning sodomy.
Can you link this? I’m aware of his crypto universalism and what have but I’ve never seen this.
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Barron is one of the worst. On another show, he was basically condoning sodomy.
He is an utter heretic. Don't forget this zinger where he unpacks the total indifferentism of Vatican II for Shapiro.
https://youtu.be/EevRrWyBllY
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Somone would perform a great service by taking this video and editing out Barron and letting Shia speak. I've only listened to the first 10-15 and Shia tried several times to start discussing his conversion, and Barron kept trying to make him talk about acting. I'm guessing that the edit would make it 65% shorter.
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Somone would perform a great service by taking this video and editing out Barron and letting Shia speak. I've only listened to the first 10-15 and Shia tried several times to start discussing his conversion, and Barron kept trying to make him talk about acting. I'm guessing that the edit would make it 65% shorter.
It really shows you where Barron's heart lies
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Can you link this? I’m aware of his crypto universalism and what have but I’ve never seen this.
https://www.crisismagazine.com/2020/the-troubling-kinship-of-bishop-barron-and-father-martin
It's interesting how Barron is viewed as "conservative" when he has denied the historicity of Sacred Scripture (says that there was not historical Adam but that the Adam of Scripture was an allegory for "the first scientist", believes that it's possible that no one is in hell (heresy), believes in subjective soteriology (where even atheists can be saved), and effectively endorses sodomy (and moral relativism in general).
I haven't found the shorter clip from the interview, but it took place somewhere during this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bphyucResSY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYWBNMOCrlo
There's more about him here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6efbqi8hd4s
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It's interesting how Barron is viewed as "conservative" when he has denied the historicity of Sacred Scripture
The "goal posts" or whatever you want to call it, keep shifting.
What is liberal today is conservatism tomorrow.
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What are you talking about? If he has enough sense and knowledge to be able to contrast the Tridentine Mass with the NOM, he surely has heard about the commandments. If this was an oblique attack on his past sinful life, then why are you attempting to hold his past against him to the point of impugning his conversion?
That this comment somehow received thumbs-up from people I find rather disturbing.
Thank you for posting in defense of Shia. I am blown away by the negativity instead of rejoicing for a miraculous conversion! The man was sitting at a table with a gun! He had no idea that Christ ate His meals with the depraved. Have we also forgotten that " charity covers a multiple of sins?
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Shia seems deeply spiritual and discerning, and Barron seems so pretentious and "Hollywood".
I think Barron was hoping for less intense conversion speak and more woke pop-culture conversation. I think the depth of it made Barron a little uncomfortable.
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Conversion is one thing, living as a Catholic is another. I hope someone tells him of the commandments of God and of His Church. That is the condition of a conversion.
Instead of falling all over ourselves, it’s prudent to remain cautious about Shia’s conversion.
What do we really know about him? When a Hollywood jew says he converted, we need to know more.
If he starts evangelizing… like the convert jews, Roy Schoeman or the Protestant Opus Dei, Dr. Taylor Marshall… be on the watch for a Marrano agenda.
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Conversion is one thing, living as a Catholic is another. I hope someone tells him of the commandments of God and of His Church. That is the condition of a conversion.
Russia?
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This is what I was going for but written much better.
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I had a thought: maybe he'll have a vocation to the priesthood and donate all he has earned in Hollywood to build a chapel or start a free Catholic school. Who knows? He shows a deeper love of God and His Holy Mass in one person than most of these very lax Novus Ordo folk in a lifetime.
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Another interview with him:
https://youtu.be/nnVKqQiQyTQ
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I had a thought: maybe he'll have a vocation to the priesthood and donate all he has earned in Hollywood to build a chapel or start a free Catholic school. Who knows? He shows a deeper love of God and His Holy Mass in one person than most of these very lax Novus Ordo folk in a lifetime.
I wouldn't count on it anytime soon. He has a newborn daughter, and even though he is not married, I have to think that any bishop, canonical or otherwise, would balk at ordaining a man who has responsibilities towards a minor child. Even though that child will obviously be cared for financially, and cared for very well in that respect, there is far more to being a father, than just paying the bills.
I know from my own experience that it's a full-time job, and any child deserves the best from his or her parents, financial and otherwise. His vocation might have to wait a couple of decades.
As a side note, my son took me to task the other day, in a very erudite argument for a teenager, for having sinfully used NFP for many years to avoid having a child. He reminded me that if he'd been born in 1995, he'd be 27 years old now, and he'd rather be 27 than 15. He was absolutely in the right, though I reminded him that he wouldn't be "him", in that every time you combine the 23 and the 23 chromosomes, a unique individual is created. His point, however, was inescapable. He also wanted to talk about penance and what constitutes it. He was the one who brought it up. A young Jean Vianney in the making?
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I missed it, in his Padre Pio movie trailer, where he acts out the Saint telling a woman to: “Shut the F up!”
This is a big red flag 🚩
Italian temper? Yes.
But since Padre Pio was uniquely graced with a supernatural stigmata very early in his priesthood, I absolutely doubt he uttered the F bomb.
In addition, if you have read Chiesa Viva’s research and expose’ on the masonic Padre Pio shrine, you will understand that our Saint is a special target of the devil.
The fact that Shia is Jєωιѕн and has been mentored by Mel (Marrano) Gibson are more red flags 🚩 🚩
As you may recall, in Gibson’s “Passion of Christ” he brought to life the Protestant heresy of Our Lord crushing the head of the serpent, when in fact, that act is an exclusive license of Our Lady.
Gibson knew what he was doing when he created that scene.
And if Shia is a zealous convert to tradition, as he wants us to believe, he wouldn’t have done the F bomb scene.
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I missed it, in his Padre Pio movie trailer, where he acts out the Saint telling a woman to: “Shut the F up!”
This is a big red flag 🚩
Italian temper? Yes.
But since Padre Pio was uniquely graced with a supernatural stigmata very early in his priesthood, I absolutely doubt he uttered the F bomb.
In addition, if you have read Chiesa Viva’s research and expose’ on the masonic Padre Pio shrine, you will understand that our Saint is a special target of the devil.
The fact that Shia is Jєωιѕн and has been mentored by Mel (Marrano) Gibson are more red flags 🚩 🚩
As you may recall, in Gibson’s “Passion of Christ” he brought to life the Protestant heresy of Our Lord crushing the head of the serpent, when in fact, that act is an exclusive license of Our Lady.
Gibson knew what he was doing when he created that scene.
And if Shia is a zealous convert to tradition, as he wants us to believe, he wouldn’t have done the F bomb scene.
The saint does not say that. Just some extra in a scene unrelated to Pio. Watch the trailer instead of rashly judging.
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No it's true- Shia as Pio Says the F bomb to a woman who he suspects is the devil. It's in one of the trailers listed for the Venice film festival.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rfhcLGE4yg
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Sorry- I just wanted to put the URL to the video and not post the whole video due to the language
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No it's true- Shia as Pio Says the F bomb to a woman(?) in a scene who he suspects is the devil. It's in one of the trailers listed for the Venice film festival.
:facepalm: My bad.
I'm not watching this.
Francesco (Padre Pio) didn’t like to go out and play with children his age because, as he said, “They are not honest; they use bad language, and they swear.”
-The Life of Padre Pio, p.10
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I missed it, in his Padre Pio movie trailer, where he acts out the Saint telling a woman to: “Shut the F up!”
This is a big red flag 🚩
Italian temper? Yes.
But since Padre Pio was uniquely graced with a supernatural stigmata very early in his priesthood, I absolutely doubt he uttered the F bomb.
In addition, if you have read Chiesa Viva’s research and expose’ on the masonic Padre Pio shrine, you will understand that our Saint is a special target of the devil.
The fact that Shia is Jєωιѕн and has been mentored by Mel (Marrano) Gibson are more red flags 🚩 🚩
As you may recall, in Gibson’s “Passion of Christ” he brought to life the Protestant heresy of Our Lord crushing the head of the serpent, when in fact, that act is an exclusive license of Our Lady.
Gibson knew what he was doing when he created that scene.
And if Shia is a zealous convert to tradition, as he wants us to believe, he wouldn’t have done the F bomb scene.
https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/who-will-crush-the-serpents-head
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Jimmy Akin not exactly a reliable (Catholic) apologist or source.
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I missed it, in his Padre Pio movie trailer, where he acts out the Saint telling a woman to: “Shut the F up!”
This is a big red flag 🚩
Italian temper? Yes.
But since Padre Pio was uniquely graced with a supernatural stigmata very early in his priesthood, I absolutely doubt he uttered the F bomb.
In addition, if you have read Chiesa Viva’s research and expose’ on the masonic Padre Pio shrine, you will understand that our Saint is a special target of the devil.
The fact that Shia is Jєωιѕн and has been mentored by Mel (Marrano) Gibson are more red flags 🚩 🚩
As you may recall, in Gibson’s “Passion of Christ” he brought to life the Protestant heresy of Our Lord crushing the head of the serpent, when in fact, that act is an exclusive license of Our Lady.
Gibson knew what he was doing when he created that scene.
And if Shia is a zealous convert to tradition, as he wants us to believe, he wouldn’t have done the F bomb scene.
Not to nitpick, but he told her to "Get the F out".
It's hard for me to be shocked by anything from Hollywood, but this clip really shocked me. And shame on this wretched man for portraying Padre Pio speaking in such a filthy manner. In this scene he is admonishing this evil woman about the state of her soul and telling her she will be condemned to hell if she doesn't repent, and his demeanor is very spiritual, and all of a sudden he starts screaming obscenities at her. The whole thing is completely disgusting, and I have to say, if this guy is going to portray this kind of behavior and attribute it to a saint like Padre Pio in a movie, then I really question what kind of conversion he had.
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Well, Yeti, to his credit, its not like he converted while he was in the role. He converted after portraying the role. Second, the director has made very filthy films in the past, why he is helming a Pio movie is beyond me. Third, the just man falls seven times a day [Prov. 24:16], yet Pio abhorred this kind of language, even under duress. This is out of character and should be removed.
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The fact that Shia is Jєωιѕн and has been mentored by Mel (Marrano) Gibson are more red flags 🚩 🚩
As you may recall, in Gibson’s “Passion of Christ” he brought to life the Protestant heresy of Our Lord crushing the head of the serpent, when in fact, that act is an exclusive license of Our Lady.
Gibson knew what he was doing when he created that scene.
What makes you say that Mel Gibson is Marrano? I thought he was from a Catholic family and I read that he holds the sedeprivationist position? Is it because of this scene in his movie?
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Well, Yeti, to his credit, its not like he converted while he was in the role. He converted after portraying the role. Second, the director has made very filthy films in the past, why he is helming a Pio movie is beyond me. Third, the just man falls seven times a day [Prov. 24:16], yet Pio abhorred this kind of language, even under duress. This is out of character and should be removed.
It’s not good, but to expect a brand new convert to instantly recognize this AND push for its removal or he isn’t genuine feels overly perfectionist
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What makes you say that Mel Gibson is Marrano? I thought he was from a Catholic family and I read that he holds the sedeprivationist position? Is it because of this scene in his movie?
Most people on here know that I don’t hold the Fr. Feeney position on EENS, but Gibson, from what I’ve heard from his own mouth, holds an undeniably heretical view on EENS. With that said, I don’t have any reason to believe that he’s a marrano.
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It’s not good, but to expect a brand new convert to instantly recognize this AND push for its removal or he isn’t genuine feels overly perfectionist
Exactly. We are all sinners and constantly converting.
I've seen people use foul language on CI. What's their excuse? Is their Catholic belief disingenuous? It doesn't excuse the film or the writers for putting such obscenity in the mouth of a holy monk, but let's not get beyond ourselves here and start judging the guy's move toward the Truth just because he isn't perfect right out of the gate. His own words in the interview paint him as a much more genuine Catholic than the so-called "bishop" interviewing him.
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Most people on here know that I don’t hold the Fr. Feeney position on EENS, but Gibson, from what I’ve heard from his own mouth, holds an undeniably heretical view on EENS. With that said, I don’t have any reason to believe that he’s a marrano.
What’s the “undeniably heretical” view that he holds and is it actually any different than what Lefebvre held?
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... let's not get beyond ourselves here and start judging the guy's move toward the Truth just because he isn't perfect right out of the gate. ...
Weren't you the one that failed to watch the trailer first, rushed to his defense anyway, and then did a quick "my bad" as an apology? That didn't seem to slow you down at all.
The saint does not say that. Just some extra in a scene unrelated to Pio. Watch the trailer instead of rashly judging.
:facepalm: My bad.
I'm not watching this.
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Gang sign. Not easy to do. Try it.
(https://i.imgur.com/tlE9TnU.png)
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Gang sign. Not easy to do. Try it.
It's great to see you necrobump this thread just to dredge up more trash right after we discussed the fact that charity requires we give people the benefit of the doubt unless you have evidence to the contrary.
So, holding a baseball cap against your stomach is a gang sign. I'm not all that "hip" to gang signs, but this looks like how I would hold a baseball cap against my stomach. He probably took it off out of respect, and with his other arm behind Barron's back, he's finding a somewhat dignified way to hold it while posing for a picture.
It would be no wonder if Shia gravitated toward Barron and the Conciliar Church instead of Traditional Catholicism with this garbage out there. I pray that the man doesn't come on here and read this crap.
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What’s the “undeniably heretical” view that he holds and is it actually any different than what Lefebvre held?
I'm not 100% sure what he's referring to, but the only thing I recall was when he was saying that his wife was a better Christian than he was. But there may be more. As Quo said, however, it's probably just due to human respect and not wanting to "offend" the Hollywood types that he spouts a religious indifferentist line.
Mel Gibson is a bit of a schizophrenic. You can see it with the way his eyes are always darting (I've seen it in other people too) ... where he's having an argument or a conversation with himself in his own head. He's almost a split personality. There's the Traditional Catholic part of him that's constantly fighting with the Hollywood Mel side of him.
He's got plenty of money and just needs to retire from that scene completely so that he can set about saving his soul ... and getting some peace of soul.
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Mel Gibson is a bit of a schizophrenic. You can see it with the way his eyes are always darting (I've seen it in other people too) ... where he's having an argument or a conversation with himself in his own head. He's almost a split personality. There's the Traditional Catholic part of him that's constantly fighting with the Hollywood Mel side of him.
Okay but that's your opinion. I didn't know you were a psychiatrist, too.
It's great to see you necrobump this thread just to dredge up more trash right after we discussed the fact that charity requires we give people the benefit of the doubt unless you have evidence to the contrary.
More opinion. Your not considering it proof does not dismiss any evidence presented.
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More opinion. Your not considering it proof does not dismiss any evidence presented.
You are a total dirtbag, incapable of giving the man the benefit of the doubt regarding his conversion. There's is no "evidence" ... it's complete garbage. You people remain pertinacious in slandering people without evidence.
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You are a total dirtbag, incapable of giving the man the benefit of the doubt regarding his conversion. There's is no "evidence" ... it's complete garbage. You people remain pertinacious in slandering people without evidence.
More insults. More opinion. More fake doctoring. Why not pull the plank from your own eye before pretending to help others? I won't hold you to an apology here, but this is a really bad habit of yours.
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Gang sign. Not easy to do. Try it.
(https://i.imgur.com/tlE9TnU.png)
Please explain.
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Weren't you the one that failed to watch the trailer first, rushed to his defense anyway, and then did a quick "my bad" as an apology? That didn't seem to slow you down at all.
My rash judgment of the film doesn't call into question whether his conversion was genuine. Like others continue to do. Saying an f-bomb in some film doesn't make you a non-Catholic. Plenty of people around here still do that either online or in our daily lives.
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Please explain.
It's an "M"
It's not easy to do (try it) so it's clearly deliberate.
You can find hundreds, thousands actually, of examples of this with athletes, politicians, actors...all the celebs do it.
It's a big club...
(https://i.imgur.com/OX9T7c6.png)
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My rash judgment of the film doesn't call into question whether his conversion was genuine.
It does your judgment.
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It does your judgment.
You do know going from thread to thread being vindictive isn't a good thing, right?
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You do know going from thread to thread being vindictive isn't a good thing, right?
Here is a sampling of your own words:
He is an utter heretic. Don't forget this zinger where he unpacks the total indifferentism of Vatican II for Shapiro. ...
It really shows you where Barron's heart lies
The saint does not say that. Just some extra in a scene unrelated to Pio. Watch the trailer instead of rashly judging.
Exactly. We are all sinners and constantly converting.
I've seen people use foul language on CI. What's their excuse? Is their Catholic belief disingenuous? It doesn't excuse the film or the writers for putting such obscenity in the mouth of a holy monk, but let's not get beyond ourselves here and start judging the guy's move toward the Truth just because he isn't perfect right out of the gate. His own words in the interview paint him as a much more genuine Catholic than the so-called "bishop" interviewing him.
If you are going to dish it out, don't pretend to be a dainty soul when you are called out for your errors. You could have apologized and moved on rather than try to salvage a bad opinion.
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Here is a sampling of your own words:
If you are going to dish it out, don't pretend to be a dainty soul when you are called out for your errors. You could have apologized and moved on rather than try to salvage a bad opinion.
I see nothing wrong with what you quoted. It's consistent with what I just said and I stand by it. "Bishop" Barron is a heretic. I have no reason to see Shia's conversion as disingenuous. And cussing isn't a grave evil, but is ridiculous coming out of the mouth of a saint, tainting my previous desire to see the film. I overlooked the trailer mentioned because I thought they were referring to another trailer.
The instance where I made a rash judgment was acknowledged, but you're drudging it up for no reason other than that you have your panties in a bunch because Lad called you and epiphany out on your BS.
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... The instance where I made a rash judgment was acknowledged, but you're drudging it up for no reason other than that you have your panties in a bunch because Lad called you and epiphany out on your BS.
Oh, epiphany and I are a group now, eh? You couldn't even understand the post you are replying to me over, but here you are judging my motives and inventing associations. No, no, I advised you to stop pretending at being so easily offended.
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Oh, epiphany and I are a group now, eh? You couldn't even understand the post you are replying to me over, but here you are judging my motives and inventing associations. No, no, I advised you to stop pretending at being so easily offended.
K.
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It's an "M"
It's not easy to do (try it) so it's clearly deliberate.
I can easily do the sign on its own and when I held an item to my body my index and pinky were slightly pointed outwards and the middle and ring fingers were just slightly more separated than Shia's.
It's not clearly delibarate. At best it's possible and considering this guy's history it's unlikely. In charity, you are obliged to dismiss the possibility unless a mountain of other circuмstantial evidence supports the theory.
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I can easily do the sign on its own and when I held an item to my body my index and pinky were slightly pointed outwards and the middle and ring fingers were just slightly more separated than Shia's.
It's not clearly delibarate. At best it's possible and considering this guy's history it's unlikely. In charity, you are obliged to dismiss the possibility unless a mountain of other circuмstantial evidence supports the theory.
Well, I'm just sharing some evidence and my opinion. Yours may vary of course.
Are you unsure that the "Triad Claw" or "M"is a M-a-s-o-n gang sign or just that he is actually doing it in this photo?
I can assure you that it is a sign that's been around for ages, but I have no intention of trying to convince anyone. Do your own research and come to your own conclusions.
Some people are more dexterous than others. Some can do the Vulcan sign (another satanic m-a-s-o-n symbol) easier than others as well. Yet these signs don't just happen on accident. They are not natural. And they happen in celeb photos over and over and over and over....
(https://i.imgur.com/gdS7HSu.png)
these are just a couple more examples.
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And at the end of this video, Shia does the "Yoni" sign.
1min 3sec
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVB-ABFw3qc
It's the same one you see Trump do over and over and over and over and over...
(https://i.imgur.com/3lmSy3r.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/x3vhkIs.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/wCpv9nn.png)
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It means female anatomy.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Vulva-handsign-Yoni-mudra.svg
File:Vulva-handsign-Yoni-mudra.svg
(https://i.imgur.com/CnqkZSk.png)
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(https://i.imgur.com/DegpaXD.png)
Here's another one:
(https://i.imgur.com/mKdwN9Y.png)
And this didn't come out very clear so reposting:
(https://i.imgur.com/Gy2KvAx.jpg)