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The Catholic Church and the Confederate States of America
« on: July 18, 2015, 02:15:39 PM »
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  • The Catholic Church and the Confederate States of America

    http://brasildogmadafe.blogspot.com.br/2015/07/the-catholic-church-and-confederate.html?m=1
     
    The Confederate Battle Flag, under fire by liberals and used shamefully by racist/extremist groups, is a symbol of Southern Pride and culture based on conservative world views.  The flag is based on the Scottish national flag and the X represents the Cross of St. Andrew the Apostle.  St. Andrew didn't consider himself worthy enough to be crucified on a cross as Christ was and requested to be crucified in this manner.  It should be noted also that the motto of the CSA was the Latin phrase     DEO VINDICE! : Under God, our Vindicator!  

    Letter of Pope Pius IX to Jefferson Davis

     in Varina Davis, Jefferson Davis: Ex-President of the Confederate States of America: A Memoir by His Wife Varina Davis, (Baltimore: The Nautical and Aviation Publishing Company of America, Inc., 1990), II, 448.

    Illustrious and honorable sir, greeting:
    We have lately received with all kindness, as was meet, the gentlemen sent by your Excellency to present to us your letter dated on the 23rd of last September. We have received certainly no small pleasure in learning both from these gentlemen and from your letter the feelings of gratification and of very warm appreciation with which you, illustrious and honorable sir, were moved when you first had knowledge written in October of the preceding year to the venerable brethren, John [Hughes], archbishop of New York, and John [Odin], archbishop of New Orleans, in which we again and again urged and exhorted those venerable brethren that because of their exemplary piety and episcopal zeal they should employ their most earnest efforts, in our name also, in order that the fatal cινιℓ ωαr which had arisen in the States should end, and that the people of America might again enjoy mutual peace and concord, and love each other with mutual charity. And it has been very gratifying to us to recognize illustrious and honorable sir, that you and your people are animated by the same desire for peace and tranquility, which we had so earnestly inculcated in our aforesaid letters to the venerable brethren above named. May it please God at the same time to make the other peoples of America and their rulers, considering seriously how cruel and how deplorable is this internecine war, would receive and embrace the counsels of peace and tranquility. We indeed shall not cease with most fervent prayer to beseech God, the best and highest, and to implore Him to pour out the spirit of Christian love and peace upon all the people of America, and to rescue them from the great calamities with which they are afflicted. We, at the same time, beseech the God of pity to shed abroad upon you the light of His grace, and attach you to us by a perfect friendship.

    Given at Rome at St. Peter’s on the 3rd of December, 1863, in the eighteenth year of our pontificate.
    Illustrious and Hon. Jefferson Davis

    President of the Confederate States of America, Richmond


    Read on ,, Great Catholic Bishops defending the South...



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    The Catholic Church and the Confederate States of America
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  • There are truly some great facts about the Confederate States of America.  I myself was born and raised in the Volunteer State.  If we overlook the negative aspects, there is a lot to be learned by this history.  The South is Protestant, but it almost could've emerged as the greatest English speaking Catholic nation.


    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...


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    « Reply #2 on: July 18, 2015, 02:26:15 PM »
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  • There is an excellent video about the South Has Risen Again Confederados in Brazil, but I couldn't include it in this post because there is an immodest image flashed at the beginning and unrelated as a reference to Brazil carnival. But for those who are history geeks there is so much interesting stuff to learn about this part of American history.
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...

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    The Catholic Church and the Confederate States of America
    « Reply #3 on: July 18, 2015, 02:48:51 PM »
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  • "This principle is most certain: The non-Christian cannot in any way be Pope. The reason for this is that he cannot be head of what he is not a member. Now, he who is not a Christian is not a member of the Church, and a manifest heretic is not a Christian, as is clearly taught by St. Cyprian, St. Athanasius, St. Augustine, St. Jerome, and others. Therefore, the manifest heretic cannot be Pope." -- St. Robert Bellarmine