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Offline Markus

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The Abandoned Coffee Saucer: Another Concession to the Revolution
« on: December 18, 2018, 08:34:15 PM »
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    • http://reignofmary.blogspot.com/2018/12/the-abandoned-coffee-saucer-another.html

    An article I wrote about why traditional Catholics should use a saucer when drinking coffee, because I reflects a Catholic spirit.
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    Re: The Abandoned Coffee Saucer: Another Concession to the Revolution
    « Reply #1 on: December 18, 2018, 08:42:44 PM »
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    • I actually have a whole tea set I use when people come over. But when I’m by myself is a regular mom mug 😂

    This was an interesting read, and interesting take! 
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    Re: The Abandoned Coffee Saucer: Another Concession to the Revolution
    « Reply #2 on: December 19, 2018, 01:18:45 AM »
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    • What?  And give up my souvenir colonoscopy coffee mug?  Never!  It's the only mug never stolen from the kitchen at work!
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    Re: The Abandoned Coffee Saucer: Another Concession to the Revolution
    « Reply #3 on: December 19, 2018, 03:10:19 AM »
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    • Quote from: Seraphina on December 19, 2018, 01:18:45 AM
    What?  And give up my souvenir colonoscopy coffee mug?  Never!  It's the only mug never stolen from the kitchen at work!
    Hand it over, you revolutionary, you!
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    Re: The Abandoned Coffee Saucer: Another Concession to the Revolution
    « Reply #4 on: December 19, 2018, 04:25:39 AM »
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    First, I would say that although politesse can be employed even in the rudest of circuмstances, to intentionally (or, habitually un-intentionally) neglect the saucer is to establish a whole new state of soul while drinking coffee. Repeated on a daily basis, this state of soul will translate into other areas of life—mealtimes no doubt being the first casualty—and eventually create in you and your ambiences a rustic, hillbilly mannerism. I know from experience as someone working to overcome these deficiencies in myself and my own household.   
    I see you are overcompensating for your rustic hillbilly background with your pompous arrogant manner. Why should anybody be ashamed of the home and family God chose for him?

    I found the article mainly a source of amusement, a bit like watching an episode of the two great BBC series, Yes, Minister, and Yes, Prime Minister. Markus, you would make a great Humphrey Applebee. IF you haven't seen it, you really must. 

    I can honestly say after reading your article, thank God I am just Catholic (rather than "tradtionalist") in spite of my never having owned a butter knife in 72 years of practicing the Faith. And my butter dish is plastic.

    But if you ever come around we serve great Italian coffee. And you'd get a warm welcome.
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    Re: The Abandoned Coffee Saucer: Another Concession to the Revolution
    « Reply #5 on: December 19, 2018, 07:24:55 AM »
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    • "Coffee is good for both the body and the soul."  - Padre Pio

    Anyone else ever see this quote?
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    Re: The Abandoned Coffee Saucer: Another Concession to the Revolution
    « Reply #6 on: December 19, 2018, 07:56:52 AM »
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    • Quote from: Nadir on December 19, 2018, 04:25:39 AM
    I see you are overcompensating for your rustic hillbilly background with your pompous arrogant manner. Why should anybody be ashamed of the home and family God chose for him?

    I found the article mainly a source of amusement, a bit like watching an episode of the two great BBC series, Yes, Minister, and Yes, Prime Minister. Markus, you would make a great Humphrey Applebee. IF you haven't seen it, you really must.

    I can honestly say after reading your article, thank God I am just Catholic (rather than "tradtionalist") in spite of my never having owned a butter knife in 72 years of practicing the Faith. And my butter dish is plastic.

    But if you ever come around we serve great Italian coffee. And you'd get a warm welcome.
    I actually got my tea set after watching Downton Abbey. I wasn’t hoping to bring some class in my life!
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    Re: The Abandoned Coffee Saucer: Another Concession to the Revolution
    « Reply #7 on: December 19, 2018, 08:37:20 AM »
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    • Quote from: Seraphina on December 19, 2018, 01:18:45 AM
    What?  And give up my souvenir colonoscopy coffee mug?  Never!  It's the only mug never stolen from the kitchen at work!
    :jester: :facepalm: :jester:
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    Re: The Abandoned Coffee Saucer: Another Concession to the Revolution
    « Reply #8 on: December 19, 2018, 08:56:12 AM »
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    • Quote from: Merry on December 19, 2018, 07:24:55 AM
    "Coffee is good for both the body and the soul."  - Padre Pio

    Anyone else ever see this quote?
    No, but he's been attributed to saying many things, as an old Italian, Augustinian priest once told me.

    For example: "The Jєωs are the enemies of Jesus Christ and our Holy religion".

    But I do believe St. Pio said this about coffee and the Jєωs because it's Catholic, common sense.

    Once read that the Little Flower was a coffee bug and praised Our Lord for creating the bean because it gave her more endurance in her religious studies.  



    Just guessing, she used a petite French saucer & coffee-cup too?
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    Re: The Abandoned Coffee Saucer: Another Concession to the Revolution
    « Reply #9 on: December 19, 2018, 09:32:45 AM »
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    • N’est-ce pas ? Mais qui!

    And, Incredulous, so funny about the last bit of info.  I was just getting ready to go help do up the chapel for Christmas, and decided to grab a little coffee to go to brace me for that religious duty!  Good to have The Little Flower's approval - :incense: 
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    Re: The Abandoned Coffee Saucer: Another Concession to the Revolution
    « Reply #10 on: December 19, 2018, 11:17:17 AM »
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    • The article makes some good points, except the assumption that there is a conspiracy against the coffee saucer (specifically).  I agree there is an attack on social customs, and the finer things of life, so that modern man is more "relaxed" and "casual" which, even if one doesn't want to admit it, affects a person's views of life, religion and, ultimately, God.  If you are too casual with yourself, and your fellow man, you will be too casual with God.

    Certainly, the gradual corruption of manners and social customs is due, in direct proportion, to the gradual belief in evolution and modern man's erroneous view that he is "just an animal" or "just 1 type of life among many in the galaxy".  This depressing and subversive view of life is a direct attack on mankind's lofty purpose as heirs to heaven, sons of God and members of God's Holy Court in heaven.  Certainly the devil is behind these evil thoughts!

    Manners/customs used to be practiced regularly which were both a discipline and a celebration of the "dignity of man" (not to be confused with V2's abominable docuмent), which dignity is, as King David exclaimed, a wonderous thing to think about - how much God truly cares for us and how special we are in His eyes:


    What is man that thou art mindful of him? or the son of man that thou visitest him?
    Thou hast made him a little less than the angels, thou hast crowned him with glory and honour: and hast set him over the works of thy hands.
    Thou hast subjected all things under his feet, all sheep and oxen: moreover the beasts also of the fields.  The birds of the air, and the fishes of the sea, that pass through the paths of the sea. O Lord our Lord, how admirable is thy name in all the earth!

    (Psalm 8, 4:9)
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    Re: The Abandoned Coffee Saucer: Another Concession to the Revolution
    « Reply #11 on: December 19, 2018, 11:46:58 AM »
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    • Quote from: Merry on December 19, 2018, 09:32:45 AM
    N’est-ce pas ? Mais qui!

    And, Incredulous, so funny about the last bit of info.  I was just getting ready to go help do up the chapel for Christmas, and decided to grab a little coffee to go to brace me for that religious duty!  Good to have The Little Flower's approval - :incense:

    Yes, and God also made marijuana ... which brings relaxation.   :laugh1:

    roscoe, you there?

    In all seriousness, though, it's amazing how many medicines God has created into nature ... from the poppy seeds from which we get pain relievers, to natural penicillin, to all manner of herbs which are useful for human beings.  But I'm sure that all these things just happened to evolve by accident.
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    Re: The Abandoned Coffee Saucer: Another Concession to the Revolution
    « Reply #12 on: December 19, 2018, 12:54:50 PM »
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    • Quote from: Nadir on December 19, 2018, 04:25:39 AM
    I see you are overcompensating for your rustic hillbilly background with your pompous arrogant manner. Why should anybody be ashamed of the home and family God chose for him?

    I found the article mainly a source of amusement, a bit like watching an episode of the two great BBC series, Yes, Minister, and Yes, Prime Minister. Markus, you would make a great Humphrey Applebee. IF you haven't seen it, you really must.

    I can honestly say after reading your article, thank God I am just Catholic (rather than "tradtionalist") in spite of my never having owned a butter knife in 72 years of practicing the Faith. And my butter dish is plastic.

    But if you ever come around we serve great Italian coffee. And you'd get a warm welcome.
    Hold on a minute. I don't have a "rustic hillbilly background" and I don't know what gives you the idea I'm being "pompous" or "arrogant". The point I made is that many of my relatives and friends are far from the ideals, even if they are sincerely striving to do well.
    That is why I don't speak of persons, rather, I'm speaking of principles and the ideals which we as Catholics should always be striving towards. I do not expect perfection, and definitely not overnight, from anyone, including myself.
    I'm a convert to the Church and to traditionalism, and I am the only one in my family who is Catholic. I don't appreciate your Freudian terms like "overcompensating" or comparing me to some TV characters, because both are mis-charaterisations. I'll look up the show anyway, though. :)
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    Re: The Abandoned Coffee Saucer: Another Concession to the Revolution
    « Reply #13 on: December 22, 2018, 08:21:32 AM »
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    Re: The Abandoned Coffee Saucer: Another Concession to the Revolution
    « Reply #14 on: December 22, 2018, 03:03:11 PM »
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    • Quote from: Markus on December 19, 2018, 12:54:50 PM
    Hold on a minute. I don't have a "rustic hillbilly background" and I don't know what gives you the idea I'm being "pompous" or "arrogant". The point I made is that many of my relatives and friends are far from the ideals, even if they are sincerely striving to do well.
    That is why I don't speak of persons, rather, I'm speaking of principles and the ideals which we as Catholics should always be striving towards. I do not expect perfection, and definitely not overnight, from anyone, including myself.
    I'm a convert to the Church and to traditionalism, and I am the only one in my family who is Catholic. I don't appreciate your Freudian terms like "overcompensating" or comparing me to some TV characters, because both are mis-charaterisations. I'll look up the show anyway, though. :)
    I note that the highlighted is a statement and not a question. Oh, well!
    Ascetik, would you mind explaining what that "word" means, please.
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