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  • I am with you, Matto.  I watch some sports, like football.  If "Person of Interest" wasn't on, then my TV time would be even smaller.


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  • St. clare Assisi as the parton saint of television? Facepalm. This should be a NO invention I think.


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  • The TV stations love to give the impression that they are not as bad as you think.

    To create the impression, between their useless or stupidifying or immoral programmes (depending on time of the day), they would insert some good meaningful programmes. Just to FOOL people. It is just a bait.

    They have to do that, otherwise the number of viewers would continue to decrease
    if all they offer is rubbish programmes.

    When you see that there are meaningful programmes , you'll think TV is not that bad after all.

    But even their best programmes cannot be compared to READING.

    I would advise people to turn off the TV set unless they have subscribed to Catholic TV channels.

    (I am only talking about the situation in HONG KONG -- especially TVB)

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    This is the first of 4 newsletters from the website,

    Our Lady's Apostolate for No TV


    http://www.ourladysapostolatefornotv.org/2007.htm



    September 2007 Newsletter

    This newsletter is the first to be published since the direction of the Apostolate has been handed on from its founder, Fr. Frank Poncelet, to his long-time secretary, Patti Petersen.  Father remains the spiritual director of the Apostolate, however.  We realize that many of you have enjoyed the writing of Fr. Poncelet, and ask your patience as this change takes place.  Anyone wishing to contact Fr. Poncelet may do so by sending a letter to the Apostolate at the above address.  Your letter will be faithfully transmitted to Father.  If the contents are personal or confidential, please make that clear on the envelope, and it will be forwarded unopened.  God bless you all!

     

    The following article, written by Dr. Carol Byrne, was published in the Autumn 2005 issue of Mater Dei magazine, the press organ of the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) in the United Kingdom.  It is being re-published in a two-part series in Our Lady’s Newsletter with the permission of the author.

     

    Do not  bring an abomination into your house, as you shall become accursed like it.

     Deut. 7:26

     

    TV OR NOT TV?  THAT IS THE QUESTION

    And why abstention rather than moderation is the answer

     

     So please, oh please, we beg, we pray,

     Go throw your TV set away…

    That nauseating, foul, unclean.

    Repulsive television screen!

     

    “Who said that?” I hear you ask. “Bishop Tissier de Mallerais?” Not so.

    “Fr Morgan, then?” Wrong.

     “Well, it must be Bishop Williamson or an American branch of the SSPX who condemn women’s trousers and pop music!”   Wrong again.

    Many readers will be surprised to know that the above exhortation to kill your TV – to get the box completely out of your house – is not, as it is sometimes alleged, a modern form of extremism invented by the SSPX but an impassioned plea from the children’s fiction writer, Roald Dahl, written as early as 1964 [1] to warn parents of the dangers of television for children. They will be even more surprised to know that anti-television advocacy has existed for decades among representatives of different religions [2] as well as a growing number of secular groups [3] and individuals who are so concerned about the harmful effects of the medium on people’s spiritual, moral and intellectual life that they call for its total elimination.

     

    Now here’s the rub. It is not difficult to come across people who would concede that television exerts a negative influence on society. “I couldn’t agree with you more”, they would say, and might even add that we would all be much better off without it.

    But how is it that the same people who deplore the existence of television find the idea of eliminating it from their own lives utterly unthinkable? It would seem that, although they hate television, they hate even more the idea of getting rid of it. And so they resort to a raft of subterfuges and excuses, objecting to a blanket rule against television on the grounds that there are some programmes which are wholesome or at least relatively harmless. So why prohibit the good along with the bad? Why not allow adults to use their discernment in the choice of material for themselves and their children to view? Then they point to the other electronic media such as radio, video recorders, computers and the Internet, all of which could be potentially as harmful as television - should they be banned too for exactly the same reasons?  

    And if they really wanted to be obstructive they might even resort to a reductio ad absurdum: shall we ban all books, newspapers and magazines? Next they will accuse you of being weird and unrealistic in expecting people to actually give up a habit that has permeated the whole of society (but that argument was used about smoking which has become less and less socially acceptable as soon as its dangers were demonstrated, and has now been completely banned in many public places).

    Let us now turn to the big picture on TV.

     

    SOUNDING THE ALERT IN THE 1950s

    As soon as television showed signs of becoming a popular form of mass entertainment, the question arose as to whether a niche could be found for religious broadcasting in the TV network and whether, in spite of its obvious countervailing influences, the electronic medium could be successfully pressed into action as a tool for evangelization.

     

    The USA

    The Catholic Church in America led the way when Mgr Fulton Sheen launched his highly popular and successful series of television talks on the Faith, “Life is Worth Living” (1952-55) which were watched by millions of viewers throughout the world and brought many converts into the Catholic Church.

     

    So far so traditional. But a crucial distinction to keep in mind is that the 1950s era of television did not represent the same degree of corruption or danger to faith and morals as it does today, and that it was then possible to use the medium as a means of spreading and strengthening the Faith, a point made by Pope Pius XII. [4]  He went on to remind the faithful that because of the obligation of Divine Law not to expose oneself to material harmful to faith and morals, it is the duty of bishops to establish committees for the promotion of decent material for viewing and to inform priests and faithful of their judgment, [5] noting that “In several countries, the bishops kept these directives before their eyes and set up offices of this kind not only for motion pictures, but also for radio and television.” [6] So in the circuмstances of the time, Church leaders judged it expedient to issue warnings to the faithful to use their discrimination in programme selection, rather than recommend a total ban.

     

    Ireland

    Evangelisation was also the driving force behind the pioneering efforts of Archbishop McQuaid of Dublin to make Ireland’s first television production unit, Telefis Eireann, worthy of a Catholic country. [7]  That could not be achieved without the Church’s constant battle to promote Christian standards and avoid elements of moral corruption. In a magnificent display of solidarity, he was supported on all sides – in the pastorals of Cardinal D’Alton and the Irish bishops, sermons from priests at Sunday Mass, speeches by President De Valera, in the debates of members of the Oireachtas (Parliament), meetings of the Gaelic Athletic Association, addresses given by Heads of schools to pupils, in the seminars of the Knights of St Columbanus, in the Irish press and in the journals of the Catholic Truth Society of Ireland whose President was Cardinal D’Alton, all of whom issued dire warnings about the dangers television might exert on the Catholic population. There was not a corner of Irish society untouched by the early warning system, and one could say that the whole of Irish society experienced a high level of apprehension at the prospect of having its own national television station. This was eventually to materialize on New Year’s Eve, 1961.

     

    One of the reasons for procrastination in the arrival of Irish television (apart from the Finance Minister’s view that it was an “unaffordable luxury”, an expensive irrelevance in an impoverished country) was the concerns of the Irish hierarchy about the corrosive effects of television on Ireland’s religious and cultural heritage. The 1956 Report of the Television Committee [8] criticized the content of BBC programmes which Irish citizens were already receiving, as “quite alien to this country” on the grounds that they included “exploitation of semi-nudity, ‘blue’ jokes in comedy shows, docuмentaries of the unmarried mother, plays hinging on the theme of adultery”. The Report reflected the dominant view of the Irish clergy in the 1950s who regarded television as spreading a “gospel of pleasure” and bringing “'pagan propaganda into the family circle”. One priest [9] even suggested that television sets should be fitted with lockable shutters, so that parents could physically prevent their children from viewing unsuitable material – thus prefiguring the modern V-chip!

     

    Under the influence of the Catholic clergy who attended all policy meetings,[10] McQuaid’s system worked well in the early stages with high quality production standards and good journalism. Irish TV featured religious programmes as part of its regular output with prayers, sermons, pious commentaries, religious discussions, coverage of liturgical ceremonies and news of the foreign missions, not to mention efforts to promote the Irish language and culture. But the Archbishop had reckoned without the effects of the Second Vatican Council which exerted a liberalizing influence on faith and morals. His carefully planned efforts backfired when the priests he had chosen to exert a moral influence on productions were converted to the new ways of thinking and started to use the screen to promote the very modernist ideas about the Faith and the Missions that the Archbishop consistently condemned! And what is more, with the connivance of the modern clergy, producers began to introduce “soaps” dramatizing sordid and immoral lifestyles of the “kitchen sink” variety while prime time was given to chat shows featuring the frank disclosure of subjects never before aired in public such as cohabitation, contraception and divorce.

     

    England

    The attitude of the English clergy to television in the 1950s was also very much in line with the papal directives that had been emanating from Rome in recent years. Within weeks of the publication of the Pope’s Encyclical the bishops in their Advent pastoral letters were warning the faithful of their grave obligation in conscience not to watch programmes that could in any way endanger their faith or morals. A sample of their teachings was published in The Catholic Times dated 6 December 1957 [11] which reproduces two hard-hitting messages, one from Archbishop Godfrey of Westminster and the other from Bishop Murphy of Shrewsbury.

    Both bishops show the harmful effects of television on the life of the soul, particularly the innocent souls of children, and explain that it “can undermine and bring to lasting ruin the whole structure of purity, goodness and wholesome personal and social upbringing.” No one listening to or reading the English bishops’ pastorals could conclude that they were talking about a minor matter to be left to the judgement of the individual conscience, or be left in any doubt that the subject of television viewing was of the most fundamental importance to the life of the nation.

     

    It was only to be expected that the clergy and members of religious orders would take their cue from the bishops and instruct the laity under their charge on the dangers of television viewing. It was not long before the message to beware of television percolated down to the young people who populated Catholic schools, as many people today will testify. “Don’t watch television” was the universal acclamation. [12]

     

    THE CHURCH’S EARLY WARNINGS ARE VINDICATED BY MODERN RESEARCH

    If we examine the teachings of the pre-Vatican Popes, starting with Pius XI’s Vigilanti Cura (1936) on the dangers of the “motion picture” as it was then called, which came into our homes in the form of television, we can see an important fact: that TV is an intrinsically addictive medium and has more power to convince than any other device of communication. That is why it was singled out by Pope Pius XII:

     

    But television, besides the element it shares in common with the other two inventions [cinema and radio] we have spoken of for the spreading of information, has a power and efficacy of its own. [13]

     

    So what is so distinctive about television compared with the other media and what exactly is it that makes the experience of watching it more harmful than, say, the custom of people in former times listening to the radio? Very few people concerned themselves with those questions in the heady days of early television, and the Popes’ words were submerged in the flood of 1960s liberal mores, only to resurface in the 1980s when their enduring truth value was “rediscovered” by researchers working in the fields of education, health and social studies.

     

    An Anti-TV prophet

    Canadian-born Marshall McLuhan [14] (1911-1980), who became a Catholic in 1936 under the influence of G. K. Chesterton, was one of the first laymen and certainly one of the most prescient of his generation to raise public awareness about the inherent dangers of television viewing.  He is best known for his aphorism “The medium is the message”, which became a catch-phrase in the 1960s, and in 1973 he was appointed as a Consultor of the Pontifical Commission for Social Communications.

    McLuhan set out his ideas in 1967 in his book The Medium is the Massage – an obvious pun on his own aphorism – where he explains that the electronic media were shaping people’s ideas in ways they did not suspect, and, more importantly, that the way we acquire information affects us more than the programme content itself. He believed that the electronic medium is not “neutral”: “It does something to people. It takes hold of them”, he continued, “It massages them.”  Television in particular comes under his special censure as having a profound impact on viewers, especially children.  He noted that the experience of staring at a glowing screen which projects moving pictures directly into their eyes produces a trance-like fixation in which the normal processes of thinking and discernment are not fully functional, if at all.  Their minds were being filled with images of places and times and events and personalities which were merely the product of other people’s minds, edited and processed through the lenses of a cameraman.  From this observation he concluded that viewers unwittingly laid themselves wide open to the danger of deception and manipulation by social controllers who wish to dominate our minds.

    Although McLuhan was most interested in the televisual experience itself, he did not neglect the content of television, and with reference to this he told his Fordham University students in 1967: “The public has yet to see TV as TV. Broadcasters have no awareness of its potential.” What could be more prophetic? Looking back from our vantage point almost four decades later, we can regard McLuhan as a visionary. His expertise in media studies pioneered later generations of research into his message that “we become what we watch.” [15]

    McLuhan’s ideas were taken up, developed and substantiated by researchers in the fields of education and social studies and their findings were made known by a host of authors from the 1970s up to our day.

    1.      Who’s in control, you or your TV?

    In the 1970s, that is the question that began to be asked by more and more people concerned about the hypnotic effect of television. Marie Winn’s landmark study, The Plug-In Drug: Television,Children and the Family, first published in 1977, shows how easy it is for children to get hooked on television and how hard it is for parents to control the situation because they themselves are too hooked on it to break the habit. Television is shown to be an addictive medium that holds the viewer in its thrall:

    Just as alcoholics are only vaguely aware of their addiction, feeling that they control their drinking more than they do (“I can cut it out at any time I want – I just like to have three or four drinks before dinner”), people similarly overestimate their control over television watching. Even as they put off other activities to spend hour after hour watching television, they feel they could easily resume a different, less passive style. But somehow or other, while the television set is in their homes, the click doesn’t sound. [16]

    Winn attributes bondage to the screen to the “television experience” itself, the seductive act of watching the box, regardless of the content. It is a one-way communication that requires the taking in of visual images in a particular way that “takes over “ people’s minds and can even alter children’s relationship with the real world.  

    The author cites studies which show a correlation between increased TV viewing and decreasing academic scores in children, and shows examples from the lives of families without TV of how breaking the habit is of enormous benefit, resulting in increased family interaction, more creative and satisfying pursuits and a better understanding of the real world.  For those wishing to follow suit, Winn includes a helpful chapter entitled “Giving up Television for Good”, and says that her own grandchildren are growing up TV-free.

    2.      Is TV “neutral”?

    Already in the 70s the argument that television was “neutral”, a harmless instrument in itself which, depending on the hands into which it falls, can be used for good or ill, was being seriously challenged. People were beginning to think that television as a medium was not only inherently mind-numbing but that it was also irreformable. It is all very well suggesting reforms to curb its worst elements – reduce violence, erotic material and aggressive advertising, raise the cultural standard of programmes etc., but if television is intrinsically biased towards passive viewing, mind-control and the creation of vicarious experiences and artificial realities, the fundamental problem remains. That is the central argument of Four Arguments for the Elimination of Television [17] by American author and former advertising executive, Jerry Mander, who was so concerned about the effects of television making people confuse reality with unreality (while watching TV they were not looking at the world as it is, but as it is “recreated” by TV presenters) that he wanted it banned – literally banned – forever! That was the first time that anyone had gone so far as to suggest that personal withdrawal from the medium or controlled watching were not enough, but that we should do away with television altogether.

    Mander’s work is another step along the road of anti-televisionism. To the debate he adds his own insider’s point of view on TV advertising, having had knowledge of the extremely clever and sophisticated techniques used by commercial companies to create false needs and sell their products. His message is that both adverts and programmes are put together with the conscious objective of creating a consumer society. TV viewers are much more susceptible to the advertisers and the image makers than they realize, and have no control over the images.

    3.      Amusing Ourselves to Death

    But the most significant leap forward in knowledge of how television exerts a negative influence on society was made by Neil Postman,[18] an intellectual heir to McLuhan. With Amusing Ourselves to Death (1985) he brought a new dimension to the question. The book is an indictment of television as an image-driven industry which reduces everything it broadcasts – history, science, current affairs, politics, art, religious thought, news and even the weather – to entertainment. "Television, in other words, is transforming our culture into one vast arena for show business," he declared. And as television is programmed for maximum ratings, its content is determined by commercial feasibility, not critical assessment, still less the concern for truth. Postman explains:

    The problem is not that television presents us with entertaining subject matter, but that all subject matter is presented as entertaining, which is another issue altogether…it is the nature of the medium that it must suppress the content of ideas in order to accommodate the requirements of visual interest; that is to say, to accommodate the values of show business. [19]

    And we know that those values have turned TV into an instrument of seduction which panders to people’s basest instincts and even the foulest perversions, an image-factory which produces obscenity, blasphemy, vulgarity and brutality in ever increasing quantities. As prurience on the screen means profits, those are the values which launch the careers of certain individuals who mock God and go sneering all the way to the bank.

    Postman also rectifies a common presupposition that modern television can be educational - an impossibility for two reasons: because presentation always outweighs quality and because the compellingly visual nature of television’s fast moving graphic imagery requires only short attention spans; it gives us no time to reflect and invites emotional rather than intellectual responses.  What is not often realized is that once a person becomes reliant on visual stimulation, there is an increased demand for constant entertainment of that nature, to the detriment of intellectual activities such as thinking and reading. In short, TV cannot be educational because it presents things that make good TV rather than food for the intellect. To put it even more succinctly, with television, seeing really is believing.

    In an interview on Canadian Television, CBC, he summed up the changes to television in the last 25 years:

    the main change that television has made…is that it's become the command centre of our culture…television has become a kind of analogue to what the medieval Church was in, say, the 14th or 15th centuries. For anything to be legitimate it has to come through television. And in that sense we have become a television people.

    This touches on the very heart of the problem which is that TV has become a substitute for religion manoeuvering its viewers into a controlled environment where it can dominate collective consciousness and indoctrinate with falsehood and the gospel of consumerism. As Faith in the Box becomes our new religion and TV the only source of information to be believed, the danger is that the only world we would know is the television world.

    (DR. BYRNE’S ARTICLE TO BE CONTINUED IN THE OCTOBER NEWSLETTER…)

     

    [1] Roald Dahl, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, first published by Penguin (USA) 1964

    [2] These include leaders of various Protestant sects, branches of the Greek Orthodox Church, Islamic Muftis and some Orthodox Jєωs who forbid their followers to have television in their homes or even to watch it at all.

    [3] Since the 1980s anti-television groups have been operating world wide, such as Catholics Unplug your Television (CUT) and White Dot in Britain, Adbusters in Canada, The Society for the Eradication of Television (a.k.a. SET Free), Federation Without Television and TV Turnoff Network in the USA, the latter being endorsed by a large number of health, educational and social organisations.. Their aim is to make a public protest against television and spark debate about its harmful effects and the extent to which it has dominated our lives. Some even take direct action against TV sets in public places.  The Guardian (25.4.05) reported that anti-TV activists operate during National TV Turnoff Week, an annual event that takes place in various locations in the UK in the last week of April. Armed with a remote control called TV-B-Gone, they enter bars, cafes, stores and waiting rooms where they blank out TV screens by zapping them from a range of 45 feet. This information is not provided for the purposes of condoning aggressive policies of anti-TV groups, but simply to show that the SSPX is not alone in calling for the elimination of television from our lives.

    [4] “However, religious ceremonies seen on television contribute greatly to strengthening the faith and renewing the fervour of all those who, for some reason, cannot be actually present. Consequently, We are convinced that We may wholeheartedly commend programs of this kind.” Miranda prorsus, On the Communications Field: Motion Pictures, Radio, Television, #150, 8 September 1957.

    [5] "It is absolutely necessary that the bishops set up a permanent national office of supervision to encourage decent films, to give others a recognized classification, and then to publish their judgment and make it known to priests and faithful." Encyclical letter, Vigilanti cura, 29 June 1936, Acta Apostolicae Sedis, pp. 260-261.

    [6] Miranda prorsus, #70

    [7] In 1958, Pope Pius XII  sent two emissaries from the Vatican, Mgr George Roche and Mgr (now Cardinal) Andrea Deskur, Undersecretary for the Pontifical Council for Cinema, Radio and Television, to Dublin to monitor the preliminary discussions of the Irish Television Commission and report back to Rome. The Pope had a great personal interest in the matter, seeing the potentialities of a television service under the auspices of a Catholic government to combat irreligion and materialism. (See Robert J. Savage, Irish Television. The Political and Social Origins, Praeger, Westport, Connecticut, 1996)

    [8] The Committee was chaired by Leon O’Broin, a senior civil servant, to look into ways in which an Irish TV station could be established without financial backing from the State.

    [9] Fr Agnellus Andrew, Advisor for Catholic broadcasts in the Religious Broadcasting Department of the BBC.

    [10] This was in accordance with Pope Pius XII’s directive that “Insofar as television is concerned, it is indispensable for the Church to be represented on the committees entrusted with organising programmes and for Catholic experts to be among the producers.” (“Guiding Principles of the Lay Apostolate. Address of His Holiness Pope Pius XII to the Second World Congress of the Lay Apostolate”, 5 October 1957)

    [11] Mentioned by Fr Morgan in the District Newsletter, January/February 2005

    [12] That was exactly what we were told when I went to a convent school in 1958. I have a lasting recollection of being rooted to the spot by the account which our Headmistress, Sr Magdalen, gave of a scene she had witnessed on television. “The devil walked on to the screen”, she said. I conjured up in my mind the figure of a two-legged creature with horns and hooves staging a dramatic appearance. I was not far wrong: it turned out to be indeed a two-legged creature in the form of a lady dancing in a state of semi-undress!

    [13] Miranda prorsus  #152

    [14] Professor of English at Toronto University, he was appointed in 1963 as Director of the University’s Centre for Culture and Technology, and after his conversion he lectured at various Catholic institutions, including Fordham University.

    [15] In his article  “G. K. Chesterton, A Practical Mystic”, (Dalhousie Review 15, (4), 1936), he stated that making idols of modern technology can produce bad effects on mankind: “Similes fiant illis qui faciunt ea” (Let them that make them become like them) – Psalm 113, 8.

    [16] Marie Winn, The Plug-In Drug: Television, Children and the Family, Viking Penguin, USA, 1977, p. 24

    [17] Amusing Ourselves to Death: Public Discourse in the Age of Show Business, William Morrow & Co., New York, 1978

    [18] (1931-2003), formerly Professor of Media Ecology at New York University. His books include The Disappearance of Childhood, Technopoly: The Surrender of Culture to Technology, The End of Education and Amusing Ourselves to Death in which he discusses the harmful affects of television on people’s ability to think clearly and critically.

    [19] Amusing Ourselves to Death, pp. 87-88

     

    “People who truly care about 'working out their salvation in fear and trembling' should ask themselves what would be the best use of their time. How long has it been since families played games together? What a wonderful way of connecting with your children! When our time at home is spent mute before the television, it is impossible to develop normal relationships that build respect, love, understanding and cooperation between children and parents. People who have thrown out the television have discovered, to their delight, that life becomes more interesting, children gradually become calmer and draw closer to the family. Innocence and peace slowly return to the home.”
    – Quoted from Christine Fitzgerald, The Nefarious Power of Television, Tradition In Action: http://www.traditioninaction.org/Cultural/D006cpTelevision_Fitzgerald.htm


    Blasphemous Movie Alert

    City Lights Pictures has released a vile and blasphemous movie called The Ten into theaters.  The movie purports to be a comedy spoof of the Ten Commandments.  It is filled with graphic sɛҳuąƖ scenes, including a horrible and blasphemous portrayal of Our Blessed Lord committing fornication.  Such a grievous crime against the Divine Majesty is clearly the work of Satan and comes straight out of hell.  Please pray and make reparation against this monstrous attack upon Our Lord!




    [I have a friend who ordered one of these devices, and is able to turn off the
    TV in restaurants when he goes to eat there.  Sometimes, he has to turn it off
    multiple times.  The waiter may keep turning it back on, as if it's his job to
    do so, and perhaps it is, but at some point, he may realize that by not serving
    the tables that will give him tips, and by playing with the TV remote, he is going
    to lose tip revenues, then maybe he'll back off....... TV-B-GONE....]

    [copied from above, in footnote 3..]

    Some even take direct action against TV sets in public places.  The Guardian (25.4.05) reported that anti-TV activists operate during National TV Turnoff Week, an annual event that takes place in various locations in the UK in the last week of April. Armed with a remote control called TV-B-Gone, they enter bars, cafes, stores and waiting rooms where they blank out TV screens by zapping them from a range of 45 feet.
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    Television - EXCELLENT ARTICLE! A Must Read!
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  •              I don't watch TV and got rid of my cable long ago and saved money doing so but most important was the peace from not watching some much garbage and especially the controlled news media.  I thank Fr. Peter Scott for encouraging catholics to not watch the TV.  Even my Dad decided to stop the cable and not watch TV.  So we started watching the classic movies and religious movies on the VHS/DVD.
    Now today I also watch the resistance youtubes and some other classic movies on youtube as well.
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    Television - EXCELLENT ARTICLE! A Must Read!
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  • I throw out my TV six years ago. I could not stand the racism against whites, the hate against Jesus and the fanatic oversɛҳuąƖized programs. Most of them are supposed to be for children and teens! I do miss some programs about archeology and nature. But the internet got a lot of docuмentarys though.

    A traditional catholic see television as pure evil. It is all about decadence and degeneration. I think the main purpose with TV is to break up white Christian family,s steal the soul from young innocent people and make them zombies.

    Throw away those machines out of the homes! Says my beloved and brave Bishop Williamson with a passion and concern in a great sermon about parenthood. You may find it on youtube. I love when he says that. It is black and white and nothing in between, that's Catholicism right there.
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    Television - EXCELLENT ARTICLE! A Must Read!
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    Here is the first of the posts I made on Fr. Poncelet (RIP).  
    4 of the subsequent posts are copies of his Newletters that
    are still on his website, run by his faithful he left behind when
    he went to his eternal reward.



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    I believe it was Fr. Poncelet who coined the phrase,


    "The Devil's Tabernacle."


    This is a most powerful term that Catholics should know and use.  

    A clearly demonic series like Jersey Shore should be nothing short of
    evidence that television is indeed the devil's imitation, of the tabernacle
    of Our Lord found in Catholic churches.  

    Why would anyone want to have the Devil's Tabernacle in their home?  

    It's a question you could not ask yourself if you ever read Fr. Poncelet's
    books or newsletters.

    Why would anyone want to have the Devil's Tabernacle in their home?

    This question should come back and give you pause for thought.

    Why would anyone want to have the Devil's Tabernacle in their home?

    I'm sure there are a lot of answers, but I highly doubt that there is a
    single one that is any good, all considered.  

    Why would anyone want to have the Devil's Tabernacle in their home?

    Remember Fr. Frank Poncelet in your prayers.  I'm sure Our Lady came
    to his assistance in his time of need.  He did a lot of good in his lifetime.






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  • I agree that jersey shore tv series is evil like the jersey devil.

    It offends God
    The real Italian Catholics

    NJ is evil and liberal state. Especially no Catholics of nj.

    And getting back to topic.  






    May God bless you and keep you


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    I have found that Catholics are very receptive to my use of the term,


    "The Devil's Tabernacle!"


    I recommend that everyone on CI tries this in conversation!  Whenever
    the subject being discussed turns to TV, use "the Devil's Tabernacle" in
    place of TV or Television, and see what happens, and you won't be
    disappointed.  It's rather educational to see it.  


    And if you can remember to do so, mention the name of Fr. Frank
    Poncelet in context of  NO TV.  His priestly life was dedicated to the
    battle against the mind-numbing TV in the home, and many families
    are today free of this pernicious influence because of his apostolate,


    "Our Lady's Apostolate for No TV!"



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    « Reply #84 on: February 05, 2014, 07:30:24 PM »
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  • Bump! :jumping2:
    "Non nobis, Domine, non nobis; sed nomini tuo da gloriam..." (Ps. 113:9)

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  • I call it "satan's lantern".  I do watch a little tv once in a while, usually some practical show if I do, perhaps a sporting event now and then.  Two weeks ago, I got a survey form from Nielsen, the rating company.  I sent it back accurately showing I had watched zero television for a whole week.


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  • Quote from: Gimli
    I throw out my TV six years ago. I could not stand the racism against whites, the hate against Jesus and the fanatic oversɛҳuąƖized programs. Most of them are supposed to be for children and teens! I do miss some programs about archeology and nature. But the internet got a lot of docuмentarys though.

    A traditional catholic see television as pure evil. It is all about decadence and degeneration. I think the main purpose with TV is to break up white Christian family,s steal the soul from young innocent people and make them zombies.

    Throw away those machines out of the homes! Says my beloved and brave Bishop Williamson with a passion and concern in a great sermon about parenthood. You may find it on youtube. I love when he says that. It is black and white and nothing in between, that's Catholicism right there.


    No TV in abode for years either.

    Harry Potter, books/Dvd's, interwoven witchcraft, sneakily teaching your kids from an early age about spells, incantations etc is what you have to ban.

    I actually used to know the (тαℓмυdist?) Jєω who was Potter book production manager in printing works!

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    One of the red flags that convinced me that NovusOrdo regulars had lost the Faith was when I questioned them about their wisdom in encouraging their children to read Harry Potter books.  

    They universally defended it, saying things like,


    At least the kids are reading books now.
    See how much vocabulary and good grammar they're being exposed to.
    It increases their enthusiasm for good literature.
    They learn to appreciate SPELLING when they see how properly done "spells" have to be.
    The author of the Potter books is now very wealthy :  She Must Be Doing SOMETHING Right.
    Are you somehow opposed to making a good living?
    Are you just jealous?
    What's the matter, can't you write a best-seller?


    The popularity of Harry Potter books goes hand-in-hand with the popularity of the Devil's Tabernacle.  

    I have known people who could not understand why Catholics practice Eucharistic Adoration of the Blessed Sacrament.  They say things like, "All these people are just sitting there, staring at the Monstrance or at the tabernacle, and there's NOTHING GOING ON."  They're so accustomed to the nonstop action and changing camera angles displayed on TV that sitting still in front of the "Hidden Jesus" for a few minutes is more than they can bear.  

    They rush home from work on a crowded freeway, listening to foul-mouthed radio broadcasts of stupid ninnies jabbering with nothing important to say, and they're in THE HABIT of going into their house to plop down on the couch and stare at the drivel on TV, the Devil's Tabernacle.  That is their daily habit.

    So You can't expect entirely different outlook when they rush from a busy work day to the chapel, and then scamper out of their hot car to go sit or kneel in a chapel on First Friday evening or whatever.   Why would they not then suddenly think, "I should be seeing some ENTERTAINMENT here, or something, but there's nothing happening."  -because that's what they're habituated in seeing when they rush home from a busy day at work.

    Note: Today is First Friday in Lent.  


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  • I'm glad you wrote that Neil because I didn't allow them either (and screened all books in the early years for witchcraft) but would question my judgement when other mothers would talk about them.

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    Replacing tv with lots of other screen time is hardly any better.


    I would disagree SantaMaria. If you think about it, TV is very one directional. Information is just shot out at you. So if you're using it for anything other than DVDs/VHSs, you have no real control. Commercials, programs themselves, etc. ...


    Is it really necessary to add more to this thread;  I think everything that needs to be said, has been said on the topic already  :sleep:



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    A monthly newsletter called "Our Lady's Apostolate for No TV" was run by
    Fr. Frank Poncelet. It was started in A.D. 2000 and continued for several years.

    Fr. Poncelet is the author of two books on television: Airwaves From Hell
    and its sequel, Television, Prelude to Chaos.

    From their website:

    http://www.ourladysapostolatefornotv.org/

    Our Mission

    The mission of this Apostolate is to save souls and to make reparation for sins committed against the Divine Majesty and against the Immaculate Heart of Mary.  As many sins are committed as a result of television, our desire is to convince Catholics to rid their homes of its destructive influence. To accomplish this we need your help! By persuading your families and friends to go TV-free you share in this work for souls. If you are successful in your efforts, please let us know.


    ******* etc........ ********


    Fr. Poncelet's primary message was to eliminate TV in the Catholic home. I tried keeping it turned off, but it was a never-ending battle. Every time I came home it was on, and then I found out that my children learned to turn it off when they heard me coming in. I didn't get any support from my wife. She liked having her TV shows, too.

    So I disabled the antenna, and only used it for video tapes. That was okay, for a while, then eventually one of my daughters decided that I was being oppressive and mean, so when she moved out, she got her own TV and had a lot of "catch-up" to do. Now she's abandoned all religion.

    But overall, I think that having no TV in the house has been a benefit, if nothing else, for my own good, for this way I can spend more time reading good books and praying the Rosary, when I'm not posting a comment on the Internet!



    The website linked above has 4 issues of the Newsletter that you can read online.
    There were many years of issues but only these 4 from 2007 are viewable.


    From the last one, December 2007:

    TELEVISIO EJICIENDA EST!
    (Television set must be thrown away)
    by Father Jean-Luc Lafitte, SSPX
    ...

    On The Christmas Season
    Very slightly adapted from Bishop Challoner’s
    Meditations for Every Day in the Year
    ...

    Excepts from the Midnight Cave
    by Father Frederick William Faber
    ...

    It ends with this from the Editor:

     

    From the Editor…

    Exposing Children to Television

    A while back, I was speaking with a Catholic friend about television.  She mentioned that she had television and used it sparingly because she wanted her children to be exposed to it so that when they went out into the world they would be less inclined to experiment with it.  Naturally, I was rather astonished at what, to me, was a novel idea.  She explained that her daughter had once noticed how her classmates at a Catholic school, who had never been exposed to television, were fascinated by the medium whenever they were exposed to it in stores.  


    Desensitizing children to TV?

    I was taken aback by this mother’s idea that by desensitizing her children to television, which is so often an occasion of sin, she hoped that they would use it “responsibly” when they were out in the world.  Our conversation started a train of thought in my mind:  Does the end justify the means?  Can exposing children to what is an addictive medium transmitting primarily sinful content, rather than teaching them to avoid it, make them less likely to avoid it in adult life?  Would anyone in their right mind use the same technique with drugs, alcohol, or pornography?  What does the Church have to say about exposing children to the proximate occasion of sin?


    Television is an occasion of sin


    The Catholic faith teaches us that occasions of sin are those places, persons, or things which as a rule are the means of leading us into sin.[1]  Does television qualify as an occasion of sin?  Given the pernicious content of the programs aired today and the morally corrosive advertising which accompanies them, television is decidedly an occasion of sin to those who watch it.  To expose oneself carelessly to an occasion of sin is in itself sinful and leads not only to a loss of divine grace, but to other more grievous sins.[2]  In the case of television it seems self-evident that a person who watches shows or commercials that are unchaste (and very few are not these days) allows into the soul unchaste desires which, aside from being temptations, may easily become the source of grievous sin.  To consent with the will to unchaste or unlawful thoughts is always sinful.  But from whence came these sinful desires?  From the tele-vision which has been the proximate occasion of sin.


    What follows?

    So what then are we to think of this idea of exposing children to television so that they lose any fascination for it?  Firstly, as Dr. Byrne’s article pointed out in the September 2007 Newsletter, television is an intrinsically addictive medium.  That being so it is very unwise to expose children to it at all.  Rather than making a child disinterested, exposure to television is likely to excite a desire to watch television which the child will not have the moral strength to resist.  Would there not be an outcry of rage if schools began exposing children to street drugs with the idea that by doing so they would ensure that the children lost all fascination for drugs?  Television is an electronic opiate, and once a person becomes “hooked” on it, it is exceedingly difficult to be weaned from the habit.  Secondly, television, because of the pernicious content of the programming, is a proximate occasion of sin and it is never lawful to deliberately expose anyone, especially children, to what may cause their moral and spiritual ruin.  St. Augustine says: “If thou persuade thy neighbor to sin thou art his murderer.”  Television, because it is a proximate occasion of sin, must be avoided by adult and child alike.

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    [1] Fr. Francis Spirago, The Catechism Explained, TAN Books and Publishers, Rockford, IL, 1993, pg.475.

    [2] Ibid, pg. 475




    Note:  Regarding "occasions of sin,"  there is another thread where this topic is being explored.  In a form for an Act of Contrition that I was taught in 1963 by Franciscan nuns (in full habits) it ended with, "I firmly resolve to sin no more and to avoid the near occasions of sin."  So is "occasions of sin" the same thing as those "near occasions of sin?"  Furthermore, what about "unnecessary occasions of sin?"  Is there any such thing as "NECESSARY occasions of sin?"  Or, is "UNAVOIDABLE near occasions of sin" a more accurate term, for hospital emergency workers or rescue workers or bishops working as liturgical sensors or exorcists, for example?

    In any case, the watching of the Devil's Tabernacle is certainly avoidable.  

    How many Americans today are so thoroughly hooked to TV that they'll practically go into financial ruin before they would ever give up on their addiction to Cable Movies on Demand?



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