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« Reply #45 on: April 21, 2012, 10:15:09 PM »
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  • Quote from: Sede Catholic
    Watching television is often a mortal sin.
    We know that there will be Blasphemy and anti-Catholic ideas.
    We know that there will be immodestly dressed women on almost every program.
    As well as obscene and pornographic images.
    If knowing all this we choose to watch television, we risk mortal sin.

    Our Lord said in the Gospel of St. Matthew XVI:26,
    "For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?"

    I read something about how one of the Saints saw a vision of a box in people's houses, and the devil came flying out of the box.
    I believe she saw television in that vision.

    Get rid of the box of satan.

    Do not go to Hell because for refusing to give up the sinful "entertainment" we are fed by the anti-Catholic tv industry.

    They are against Our Lord, so we should be against them.

    Pray to the Immaculate Heart of Mary for the Graces to give up this sin.
    This Lent, try to give up television as a penance.

    Think how much that would please Our Lord.

    You can spend more time really with your Family and with God.



    I believe that was St. Elizabeth Ann Seton....

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    « Reply #46 on: April 22, 2012, 04:23:54 AM »
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  • 'Decorum, however, as well as religion, requires that as a Christian, you not allow yourself to sing every sort of song and that you be especially on your guard not to sing indecent songs or those whose words are too explicit or contain double meanings. In a word, it is very unbecoming for a Christian to sing songs that might lead to impiety, that glorify loose living, or that contain expressions and words suggesting that it is an honor and a great pleasure to drink to excess. Besides the fact that it is very uncouth to have these words on your lips, such words might strongly contribute to having someone else fall into such excesses, even if he is not doing so at the moment. Songs can move you with the spirit they contain more strongly than do mere words.'

    . . .

    'There are amusements that will not be discussed at length here, because they are not at all permitted to Christians, either by the laws of religion or by the rules of decorum. Some of these are ordinarily available only to wealthy people, such as balls, dances, and the comedies of the theater. There are others that are more commonly available to artisans and the poor, such as watching charlatans, clowns, tightrope walkers, puppeteers, and so forth.'

    . . .

    'Although in the world theater is considered a refined form of amusement, the fact is that it is a shame and an embarrassment to Christianity. In fact, are not those who abandon themselves to this kind of work and make it their profession considered publicly infamous? Can you love a profession that covers with embarrassment those who practice it? Is that art not something infamous and shameful in which the skill of the actors consists in exciting in themselves and in others various shameful passions for which a wellborn person can feel nothing but repulsion?

    If there is singing going on, the only airs one hears are those that strengthen these same passions. Is there anything conformable to refinement or to decorum in the costuming, the nudity, and the license taken by actors and actresses? Is there anything in their gestures, their words, and their postures that is not unbecoming for a Christian not only to do but even to see? It is, then, entirely against propriety to take pleasure in this form of amusement.'

    St. Jean Baptiste de la Salle
    Sincerely,

    Shin

    'Flores apparuerunt in terra nostra. . . Fulcite me floribus.' (The flowers appear on the earth. . . stay me up with flowers. Sg 2:12,5)'-


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    « Reply #47 on: May 04, 2012, 02:38:11 AM »
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  • I haven't owned a TV in over five years, and I feel more intelligent and better informed than I ever had. The other day I was at a friend's house and his TV was on to the news. He was watching so I watched some, too. After about five minutes I got the worst headache, a migraine really, and it would not go away until I left.

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    I haven't owned a TV in over five years, and I feel more intelligent and better informed than I ever had. The other day I was at a friend's house and his TV was on to the news. He was watching so I watched some, too. After about five minutes I got the worst headache, a migraine really, and it would not go away until I left.


    Interesting, I've noticed the same for myself.

    In 1987, Jewish businessman Sumner Redstone (born Sumner Murray Rothstein) purchased majority ownership of Viacom.

    Redstone later acquired several television networks and turned the company into one of the largest media organizations in the world.

    Viacom currently owns MTV, VH1, Nickelodeon, MTV2, Comedy Central, BET, Nick at Nite, Noggin, TV Land, CMT, Spike TV, and Showtime.

    For the last 25 years, Americans have grown up watching these networks. Their values and beliefs were formed by The Real World, Cribs, Punk’d, True Life, and most recently Jersey Shore.

    Jersey Shore revolves around a group of young adults living together in a beach rental home. By day they work at a T-shirt shop, and the rest of the time they drink, have sex and make jokes about each other.

    The show has become MTV’s most watched series of all time.

    MTV programs are clear examples social engineering, a media led effort to influence popular attitudes and social behaviors on a large scale.

    Kids watch Jersey Shore and they see how “adults” behave. Male viewers learn from “The Situation” (Mike Sorrentino) and women learn from Snooki (Nicole Polizzi).

    Read more about the MTV culture at JettandJahn.com

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    « Reply #49 on: May 04, 2012, 08:35:05 PM »
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    I haven't owned a TV in over five years, and I feel more intelligent and better informed than I ever had. The other day I was at a friend's house and his TV was on to the news. He was watching so I watched some, too. After about five minutes I got the worst headache, a migraine really, and it would not go away until I left.


    Interesting, I've noticed the same for myself.

    In 1987, Jewish businessman Sumner Redstone (born Sumner Murray Rothstein) purchased majority ownership of Viacom.

    Redstone later acquired several television networks and turned the company into one of the largest media organizations in the world.

    Viacom currently owns MTV, VH1, Nickelodeon, MTV2, Comedy Central, BET, Nick at Nite, Noggin, TV Land, CMT, Spike TV, and Showtime.

    For the last 25 years, Americans have grown up watching these networks. Their values and beliefs were formed by The Real World, Cribs, Punk’d, True Life, and most recently Jersey Shore.

    Jersey Shore revolves around a group of young adults living together in a beach rental home. By day they work at a T-shirt shop, and the rest of the time they drink, have sex and make jokes about each other.

    The show has become MTV’s most watched series of all time.

    MTV programs are clear examples social engineering, a media led effort to influence popular attitudes and social behaviors on a large scale.

    Kids watch Jersey Shore and they see how “adults” behave. Male viewers learn from “The Situation” (Mike Sorrentino) and women learn from Snooki (Nicole Polizzi).

    Read more about the MTV culture at JettandJahn.com



    Yep, I grew up on all that stuff. Looking back I realize that even most of the "family" shows had an undertone of modernism and anti-Christianity. Jewish control of the media is a fact- all one must do is a little research into it. That might explain why Christianity is ALWAYS attacked in the media, especially TV. It is done in such a way that even shows like "It's a Wonderful Life" and other "Christmas" shows, seem to encourage a belief in the Judeo-Christian God, but not in Jesus Christ- the reason for the season. God is mentioned often in the Jewish media, and even with praise, but Jesus is NEVER portrayed in a good light, nor are his followers. Jews are master deceivers- just like their father. I am amazed at how many Protestants and even Catholics actually support Israel unconditionally, and will never speak a word against a Jew, even a true word. They have been deceived into thinking that the Jews are still God's chosen, though they rejected and murdered Him. They think we somehow owe Judaism something for being our 'cousin' religion, when in fact we owe Jews as much as we owe any Christ-denying heathens: absolutely nothing.


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    « Reply #50 on: May 09, 2012, 11:21:11 AM »
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  • A monthly newsletter called "Our Lady's Apostolate for No TV" was run by
    Fr. Frank Poncelet. It was started in A.D. 2000 and continued for several years.

    Fr. Poncelet is the author of two books on television: Airwaves From Hell
    and its sequel, Television, Prelude to Chaos.

    From their website:

    http://www.ourladysapostolatefornotv.org/

    Our Mission

    The mission of this Apostolate is to save souls and to make reparation for sins committed against the Divine Majesty and against the Immaculate Heart of Mary.  As many sins are committed as a result of television, our desire is to convince Catholics to rid their homes of its destructive influence. To accomplish this we need your help! By persuading your families and friends to go TV-free you share in this work for souls. If you are successful in your efforts, please let us know.

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    His primary message was to eliminate TV in the Catholic home. I tried keeping it turned off, but it was a never-ending battle. Every time I came home it was on, and then I found out that my children learned to turn it off when they heard me coming in. I didn't get any support from my wife. She liked having her TV shows, too.

    So I disabled the antenna, and only used it for video tapes. That was okay, for a while, then eventually one of my daughters decided that I was being oppressive and mean, so when she moved out, she got her own TV and had a lot of "catch-up" to do. Now she's abandoned all religion.

    But overall, I think that having no TV in the house has been a benefit, if nothing else, for my own good, for this way I can spend more time reading good books and praying the Rosary, when I'm not posting a comment on the Internet!

    The website linked above has 4 issues of the Newsletter that you can read online.
    There were many years of issues but only these 4 from 2007 are viewable.

    From the last one, December 2007:

    TELEVISIO EJICIENDA EST!
    (Television set must be thrown away)
    by Father Jean-Luc Lafitte, SSPX
    ...

    On The Christmas Season
    Very slightly adapted from Bishop Challoner’s
    Meditations for Every Day in the Year
    ...

    Excepts from the Midnight Cave
    by Father Frederick William Faber
    ...

    It ends with this from the Editor:

     

    From the Editor…

    Exposing Children to Television

    A while back, I was speaking with a Catholic friend about television.  She mentioned that she had television and used it sparingly because she wanted her children to be exposed to it so that when they went out into the world they would be less inclined to experiment with it.  Naturally, I was rather astonished at what, to me, was a novel idea.  She explained that her daughter had once noticed how her classmates at a Catholic school, who had never been exposed to television, were fascinated by the medium whenever they were exposed to it in stores.  

    Desensitizing children to TV?

    I was taken aback by this mother’s idea that by desensitizing her children to television, which is so often an occasion of sin, she hoped that they would use it “responsibly” when they were out in the world.  Our conversation started a train of thought in my mind:  Does the end justify the means?  Can exposing children to what is an addictive medium transmitting primarily sinful content, rather than teaching them to avoid it, make them less likely to avoid it in adult life?  Would anyone in their right mind use the same technique with drugs, alcohol, or pornography?  What does the Church have to say about exposing children to the proximate occasion of sin?

    Television is an occasion of sin


    The Catholic faith teaches us that occasions of sin are those places, persons, or things which as a rule are the means of leading us into sin.[1]  Does television qualify as an occasion of sin?  Given the pernicious content of the programs aired today and the morally corrosive advertising which accompanies them, television is decidedly an occasion of sin to those who watch it.  To expose oneself carelessly to an occasion of sin is in itself sinful and leads not only to a loss of divine grace, but to other more grievous sins.[2]  In the case of television it seems self-evident that a person who watches shows or commercials that are unchaste (and very few are not these days) allows into the soul unchaste desires which, aside from being temptations, may easily become the source of grievous sin.  To consent with the will to unchaste or unlawful thoughts is always sinful.  But from whence came these sinful desires?  From the tele-vision which has been the proximate occasion of sin.

    What follows?

    So what then are we to think of this idea of exposing children to television so that they lose any fascination for it?  Firstly, as Dr. Byrne’s article pointed out in the September 2007 Newsletter, television is an intrinsically addictive medium.  That being so it is very unwise to expose children to it at all.  Rather than making a child disinterested, exposure to television is likely to excite a desire to watch television which the child will not have the moral strength to resist.  Would there not be an outcry of rage if schools began exposing children to street drugs with the idea that by doing so they would ensure that the children lost all fascination for drugs?  Television is an electronic opiate, and once a person becomes “hooked” on it, it is exceedingly difficult to be weaned from the habit.  Secondly, television, because of the pernicious content of the programming, is a proximate occasion of sin and it is never lawful to deliberately expose anyone, especially children, to what may cause their moral and spiritual ruin.  St. Augustine says: “If thou persuade thy neighbor to sin thou art his murderer.”  Television, because it is a proximate occasion of sin, must be avoided by adult and child alike.

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    [1] Fr. Francis Spirago, The Catechism Explained, TAN Books and Publishers, Rockford, IL, 1993, pg.475.

    [2] Ibid, pg. 475
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    « Reply #51 on: May 20, 2012, 05:36:20 AM »
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  • Excellent article!! Except that, instead of merely turning off the TV you must banish it outright by removing it from the home. :tv-disturbed:

    I know that this topic has been started way back, and someone along the way said that it has been exhausted. I don't believe so. It won't be done until all those tvs are on the rubbish dump!

    I wonder if Anne De Guigne (Feb 27, 2008)  succeeded in "trying to not watch television", or if she is still trying. Imagine how wonderful if instead of watching, or even trying not to, she is praying little aspirations for the salvation of sinners.

    God bless her efforts!
    :pray:

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  • A curious name. Blessed Anne de Guigne died 20 years before television first blinked
    into existence.

    The only way to really be free of TV is to put a brick through the screen.
    But these days, with flat screens and computer hookups, it's more complicated.

    I know families with TV in their living room who are entirely hooked, and there's no
    getting around it. When they invite me to sit there and watch with them, I have
    something to say every ten or 15 seconds, and they get upset that they can't hear
    what's going on in their sacred false god's reality.

    These are Catholics, who never spend that much attention in front of the Blessed
    Sacrament. They complain that "nothing's going on" if a priest isn't at the altar
    moving around somehow. Their whole perception is clouded by a lifetime
    of TV viewing.

    I had an acquaintance 20 years ago who was involved in "the industry" (that
    means Entertainment, or movies, or TV -- to them it's the whole world) who
    assured me that the power of TV was soon to become the principal device
    of public opinion control, and that its power is impossible to overestimate.

    Well, I have to say, that TV has no power at all over anyone who does not
    watch it.


    And those of us who don't watch TV, we are really duty-bound to talk about that
    in the public arena. People really need to hear the testimony of us who are not
    mind-numbed robots under the thumb of TV programmers.
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  • Quote from: Neil Obstat
    A curious name. Blessed Anne de Guigne died 20 years before television first blinked
    into existence.

    The only way to really be free of TV is to put a brick through the screen.
    But these days, with flat screens and computer hookups, it's more complicated.

    I know families with TV in their living room who are entirely hooked, and there's no
    getting around it. When they invite me to sit there and watch with them, I have
    something to say every ten or 15 seconds, and they get upset that they can't hear
    what's going on in their sacred false god's reality.

    These are Catholics, who never spend that much attention in front of the Blessed
    Sacrament. They complain that "nothing's going on" if a priest isn't at the altar
    moving around somehow. Their whole perception is clouded by a lifetime
    of TV viewing.

    I had an acquaintance 20 years ago who was involved in "the industry" (that
    means Entertainment, or movies, or TV -- to them it's the whole world) who
    assured me that the power of TV was soon to become the principal device
    of public opinion control, and that its power is impossible to overestimate.

    Well, I have to say, that TV has no power at all over anyone who does not
    watch it.


    And those of us who don't watch TV, we are really duty-bound to talk about that
    in the public arena. People really need to hear the testimony of us who are not
    mind-numbed robots under the thumb of TV programmers.


    If you have young children I would use caution when talking about no tv to others that do not agree. Some will view it as child abuse.

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  • Television = Brain Rot


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  • Yes,  television is being used to push liberal agenda.  There are many programs, shows which attack God, Our Blessd Mother and the Catholic faith, families, marriage, and good values.

    They seem to push sex,  violence, destruction of family and marriages, teen age pregnancies, .  Most media even on internet is so liberal.

    Thanks for sharing the article.



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    « Reply #56 on: June 25, 2012, 07:42:39 PM »
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    Quote from: Neil Obstat
    A curious name. Blessed Anne de Guigne died 20 years before television first blinked
    into existence.

    The only way to really be free of TV is to put a brick through the screen.
    But these days, with flat screens and computer hookups, it's more complicated.

    I know families with TV in their living room who are entirely hooked, and there's no
    getting around it. When they invite me to sit there and watch with them, I have
    something to say every ten or 15 seconds, and they get upset that they can't hear
    what's going on in their sacred false god's reality.

    These are Catholics, who never spend that much attention in front of the Blessed
    Sacrament. They complain that "nothing's going on" if a priest isn't at the altar
    moving around somehow. Their whole perception is clouded by a lifetime
    of TV viewing.

    I had an acquaintance 20 years ago who was involved in "the industry" (that
    means Entertainment, or movies, or TV -- to them it's the whole world) who
    assured me that the power of TV was soon to become the principal device
    of public opinion control, and that its power is impossible to overestimate.

    Well, I have to say, that TV has no power at all over anyone who does not
    watch it.


    And those of us who don't watch TV, we are really duty-bound to talk about that
    in the public arena. People really need to hear the testimony of us who are not
    mind-numbed robots under the thumb of TV programmers.


    If you have young children I would use caution when talking about no tv to others that do not agree. Some will view it as child abuse.


    It's sad, but I can seriously believe that, and I can even see some kid's parents being harassed because they are "denying" their children television. I've heard that the guy responsible for the invention of public television, was a marketer. His goal was nothing less than the "programming" of people to buy products. (This 'program' brought to you by...) Then of course even more evil people saw the benefits in propaganda and brainwashing. It's crazy how nobody even ever questions why they call it programming. When people spend up to six or more hours a day average in front of a television, of course they will think that to not have one is crazy- that's what some guy on T.V. said, anyway...

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    A curious name. Blessed Anne de Guigne died 20 years before television first blinked
    into existence.

    The only way to really be free of TV is to put a brick through the screen.
    But these days, with flat screens and computer hookups, it's more complicated.

    I know families with TV in their living room who are entirely hooked, and there's no
    getting around it. When they invite me to sit there and watch with them, I have
    something to say every ten or 15 seconds, and they get upset that they can't hear
    what's going on in their sacred false god's reality.

    These are Catholics, who never spend that much attention in front of the Blessed
    Sacrament. They complain that "nothing's going on" if a priest isn't at the altar
    moving around somehow. Their whole perception is clouded by a lifetime
    of TV viewing.

    I had an acquaintance 20 years ago who was involved in "the industry" (that
    means Entertainment, or movies, or TV -- to them it's the whole world) who
    assured me that the power of TV was soon to become the principal device
    of public opinion control, and that its power is impossible to overestimate.

    Well, I have to say, that TV has no power at all over anyone who does not
    watch it.


    And those of us who don't watch TV, we are really duty-bound to talk about that
    in the public arena. People really need to hear the testimony of us who are not
    mind-numbed robots under the thumb of TV programmers.


    If you have young children I would use caution when talking about no tv to others that do not agree. Some will view it as child abuse.


    It's sad, but I can seriously believe that, and I can even see some kid's parents being harassed because they are "denying" their children television. I've heard that the guy responsible for the invention of public television, was a marketer. His goal was nothing less than the "programming" of people to buy products. (This 'program' brought to you by...) Then of course even more evil people saw the benefits in propaganda and brainwashing. It's crazy how nobody even ever questions why they call it programming. When people spend up to six or more hours a day average in front of a television, of course they will think that to not have one is crazy- that's what some guy on T.V. said, anyway...



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  • Watching too much TV makes one stupid. There is not much to learn from it.
    Not only that, those tv programmes spread wrong ideas -- e.g. it's ok to let children play video games, or don't be too strict towards children, or that romantic love is the greatest thing in life, etc.

    News on TV is also bad. The ads trivialize all the news.

    I hate watching too much TV. I don't watch TV a lot, my secret of staying away from TV is to
    read books and magazines. I have subscribed Catholic life, Vatican past and present, Gilbert magazine, etc.

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  •               I cancelled my cable many years ago and stopped watching T.V.  I actually had withdrawal symptoms for awhile which was weird.  I talked to my parents about it and they decided to also cancel their cable and don't watch T.V.  We watch old classic movies, religious movies, and some youtubes.
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