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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Tattoos are a mortal sin
« Reply #30 on: October 21, 2018, 12:04:08 PM »
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    • Quote from: Smedley Butler on October 21, 2018, 09:50:32 AM
    Ladislaus, how you can have spent time in an SSPX seminary and not know this is perplexing, because they teach this, as several others here have attested to.

    This was never taught while I was there.  Were you there?  And I see no attestation of that on this thread.
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    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: Tattoos are a mortal sin
    « Reply #31 on: October 21, 2018, 12:06:25 PM »
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    • Quote from: MMagdala on October 21, 2018, 12:03:41 PM
    Who said anything about fornication?  Are you aware that there are degrees of gravity among grave sins?  

    Obviously there are degrees of mortal sin, but they all entail loss of sanctifying grace.  But putting it into the category of mortal sin (alongside things like fornication, murder, grand theft, etc.) ... especially for small tattoos, that's pretty extreme.
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    Offline Last Tradhican

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    Re: Tattoos are a mortal sin
    « Reply #32 on: October 21, 2018, 12:06:48 PM »
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    • I'm thinking of getting a tattoo of hair on the crown of my head. It's either that or become the pope or a Jєω, so I can wear a skull cap. 
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    Re: Tattoos are a mortal sin
    « Reply #33 on: October 21, 2018, 12:09:17 PM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on October 21, 2018, 12:06:48 PM
    I'm thinking of getting a tattoo of hair on the crown of my head. 

    Would this tattoo say "666"?  You could go out as Damien from The Omen for Halloween.
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    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: Tattoos are a mortal sin
    « Reply #34 on: October 21, 2018, 12:10:26 PM »
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    • Quote from: 800 Cruiser on October 21, 2018, 11:08:04 AM
    Other than the body is the temple, how exactly is this a desecration?  In some English I have a possibility of following and understanding  :confused:

    Yeah, I don't see how putting a cross or a rose somewhere modest counts as "desecration".
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    Re: Tattoos are a mortal sin
    « Reply #35 on: October 21, 2018, 12:11:57 PM »
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    • Quote from: MyrnaM on October 21, 2018, 08:59:40 AM
    A Mortal sin is mortal when only the three conditions have been met.

    • Mortal sin is a sin of grave matter
    • Mortal sin is committed with full knowledge of the sinner
    • Mortal sin is committed with deliberate consent of the sinner

    In order for a sin to be mortal, it must meet three conditions:

    This means that mortal sins cannot be done "accidentally." A person who commits a mortal sin is one who knows that their sin is wrong, but still deliberately commits the sin anyway. This means that mortal sins are "premeditated" by the sinner and thus are truly a rejection of God’s law and love.
    The second one, "Mortal sin is committed with full knowledge of the sinner", is erroneously used today to excuse ALL sinners and all persons in non-Catholic false religions from just about anything. Today the Aztecs who sacrificed living men's hearts and then ate the arms and legs, would be considered saved if they were not clearly taught that it was wrong.
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    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: Tattoos are a mortal sin
    « Reply #36 on: October 21, 2018, 12:13:45 PM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on October 21, 2018, 12:11:57 PM
    The second one, "Mortal sin is committed with full knowledge of the sinner", is erroneously used today to excuse ALL sinners and all persons in non-Catholic false religions from just about anything.

    You're absolutely correct.  Even for pagans, they are held accountable for those things contrary to natural law.
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    Re: Tattoos are a mortal sin
    « Reply #37 on: October 21, 2018, 12:21:09 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on October 21, 2018, 12:10:26 PM
    Yeah, I don't see how putting a cross or a rose somewhere modest counts as "desecration".
    Beware! The rose does have Rosicrucian implications.
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    On the other hand, wearing the tattooed Sign of the Cross on the wrist, as is the standard custom in the East, might repel a Moslem from raping an Eastern Catholic girl or woman as she is marked as a Christian from birth even if she were to be stolen from her parents as an infant. Her ears are also pierced and a tiny earring of the Cross is given her. She is also signed with the Cross at Baptism. Thus, she is marked three times with the Holy Cross.
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    Raids upon Eastern Christian homes do occur where infants and girls are held captive and then adopted into Muslim families to be raised as Muslims or as sex slaves. Boys over the age of five and men are usually killed. Let us pray for these Christians.
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    Re: Tattoos are a mortal sin
    « Reply #38 on: October 21, 2018, 12:21:50 PM »
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    • Quote from: Maria Regina on October 21, 2018, 11:40:23 AM
    Can you cover up these tattoos by wearing modest apparel so that your children and others will not see them?

    Some doctors in the past were advertising free or reduced cost removal of tattoos.

    Whatever you do, please do not add more tattoos because there is always a risk of infection or reaction to the ink.
    Less is best.
    All except one is covered by clothes, or hair.
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    Re: Tattoos are a mortal sin
    « Reply #39 on: October 21, 2018, 12:40:46 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on October 21, 2018, 12:02:50 PM
    But the Church has never condemned earrings, and those too are technically a mutilation.
    True.  
    Something about tattoos reminds me of branding.  As if we were animals. 
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    Re: Tattoos are a mortal sin
    « Reply #40 on: October 21, 2018, 12:53:10 PM »
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    • Quote from: Maria Regina on October 21, 2018, 12:21:09 PM
    Beware! The rose does have Rosicrucian implications.
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    On the other hand, wearing the tattooed Sign of the Cross on the wrist, as is the standard custom in the East, might repel a Moslem from raping an Eastern Catholic girl or woman as she is marked as a Christian from birth even if she were to be stolen from her parents as an infant. Her ears are also pierced and a tiny earring of the Cross is given her. She is also signed with the Cross at Baptism. Thus, she is marked three times with the Holy Cross.
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    Raids upon Eastern Christian homes do occur where infants and girls are held captive and then adopted into Muslim families to be raised as Muslims or as sex slaves. Boys over the age of five and men are usually killed. Let us pray for these Christians.

    Is this true, that they will leave the girls alone if they are marked as Christians?

    You're right.  I mentioned a rose and a cross in the same thread.  Maybe I too, like Bishop Williamson, and a secret Rosicrucian.
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    Re: Tattoos are a mortal sin
    « Reply #41 on: October 21, 2018, 12:54:23 PM »
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    • Quote from: 2Vermont on October 21, 2018, 12:40:46 PM
    True.  
    Something about tattoos reminds me of branding.  As if we were animals.

    Yes, it does.  But what if I WANTED to brand myself as belonging to Christ?
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    Re: Tattoos are a mortal sin
    « Reply #42 on: October 21, 2018, 12:58:40 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on October 21, 2018, 12:53:10 PM
    Is this true, that they will leave the girls alone if they are marked as Christians?

    You're right.  I mentioned a rose and a cross in the same thread.  Maybe I too, like Bishop Williamson, and a secret Rosicrucian.
    Miracles do happen.
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    I remember the story of a young Filipino lady who was wearing the brown scapular.
    Her village was located on an island currently held by Muslims terrorists.
    These Muslims will often rape a young woman and then claim her as a bride
    because the family will feel dishonored.
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    When a Moslem tried to rape her, he saw a blinding light coming from her scapular
    and fled in terror. Later on, he became a Christian and related the miracle to the priest.
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    Re: Tattoos are a mortal sin
    « Reply #43 on: October 21, 2018, 12:59:54 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on October 21, 2018, 12:54:23 PM
    Yes, it does.  But what if I WANTED to brand myself as belonging to Christ?
    Christ has never commanded us to do such a thing.
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    Re: Tattoos are a mortal sin
    « Reply #44 on: October 21, 2018, 01:01:53 PM »
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    • Quote from: 2Vermont on October 21, 2018, 12:59:54 PM
    Christ has never commanded us to do such a thing.
    We are signed with the Holy Cross at our baptism.
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    Sometimes miracles have happened where Moslems and other infidels have seen a brilliant white Cross shine from where the Holy Anointing oil was used at Holy Baptism or at Holy Confirmation.
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