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Traditional Catholic versus Regular Catholic?
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2013, 09:54:54 AM »
You must say "Traditional Catholic" and clarify that you dont support the Vatican 2 church, otherwise they will think you do and are novus ordo. That is what I describe myself as at school. I try to distance myself from the novus ordo priests at every opportunity.

Traditional Catholic versus Regular Catholic?
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2013, 09:57:31 AM »
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This message has several good points:

Quote from: Matthew
This is a perennial question, but it comes down to common usage.

Even though it's not fair that the heretical conciliar NewReligion gets the buildings, the name, the "Catholic" reputation, the public mindshare, etc. it's nevertheless true that they have possession of all these things.

To pretend otherwise would be unrealistic.

If you don't distinguish yourself from the protestants, many will assume you're protestant if you refer to yourself as a Christian today.

Likewise, you have to do SOMETHING to show people that you're a REAL Catholic, and not just one of those fake ones like John Kerry. If you can manage it without using the term "traditional", then more power to you.

Not to show off, but to be a good example. You can't let people think that EVERYONE finds real Catholicism "too hard" or "outdated".

The whole conciliar experiment is a major disaster and an embarrassment for Catholicism. You have to remember that.

But the fact is that there are two kinds of Catholics today:

A) Novus Ordo, which are more like protestants (and they get along better with protestants than they do with...[trads]...

B) Traditional Catholics, who live the Faith and truly believe all its dogmas and follow the morality it imposes.

Language should reflect reality. Ergo...


I like the word, "Novordien."

When you say "Novus Ordo" it's too unlike English and Americans don't listen.  Add to that the fact that Newchurch groupies have been uttering "Novus Ordo" in reverent tones for decades now, and the phrase has taken on a life of its own.

They have the same solemn tone with "Vatican Two" and "The Council," as if it's something to be awestruck about.  These are holdouts from that age, an age that is thankfully fading away.  What it left behind is a legacy of deprivation, as you say, The whole conciliar experiment is a major disaster and an embarrassment for Catholicism. You have to remember that.

Curiously, it is largely the trappings of the real Catholic Church that these dwindling holdouts, these Novordiens, hang on to, that keeps their enthusiasm alive.  There is nothing in the Newmass that can stand up on its own.  It gets its only appeal from what it STOLE from the Canonized Traditional Latin Mass (CTLM).

I talked to one of them just the other day.  She retains a Catholic sense, because she was reared in the Faith before "The" Council.  But she likes to dig through the Vat.II docuмents and look for one sentence that makes her happy, and then she uses that as her "proof" that "The" Council was a 'gift' of the Holy Spirit, I guess you could say, "make that gift number ten."  (There are 9 gifts of the Holy Ghost.)

How anyone can be so blind is a mystery to me.  

It comes down to a deliberate act of the will, and even God honors that.  God gave us free will and it is a most precious gift, something that the animals do not have at all.  

Novordiens have chosen a different path.  

Novordiens have abandoned the Apostolic Faith of our Fathers, even while they fool themselves into thinking that they have not abandoned it.  

Novordiens get along fine with protestants, because they have something in common:  they both share the fact that they have abandoned the Faith of our Fathers.  Neither prots or Novordiens sing Faith of Our Fathers, that great hymn of continuity with our forebears that keeps us tied to what the Apostles taught.  The truth is in the pudding.  They don't sing it because they don't believe it.  

Novordiens chose a different path, and it's not just the same as the protestants, and therefore it's a whole NEW RELIGION.  

Newchurch has a Newfaith and a Newcreed and a Newmass with Newsacraments.

It's a whole Newdeal going on, a Newfad for Newman in this New-age.

Or, should I say "Newage?"  Sounds like sewage Newage.  

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Traditional Catholic versus Regular Catholic?
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2013, 01:23:12 PM »
In conversations, I say, I am Roman Catholic, then I add, where the True Precious Blood of Christ is.  Then the one that listens may say, "there is no true presence in the other Catholic churches?  For this is why I go to a Traditional Roman Catholic, because for what other reason is there?  We go because Christ is truly present.  Sure we may pray and have His presence, but we go to receive Him Body and Blood.  It is the Power that is saving.  The Precious Blood is in all the sacraments.  Then read Chapter 12 of Daniel.

Traditional Catholic versus Regular Catholic?
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2013, 01:27:22 PM »
Quote from: songbird
In conversations, I say, I am Roman Catholic, then I add, where the True Precious Blood of Christ is.  


I will copy this answer next time they ask.  :smile:

I agree with the OP about the term Traditional Catholic. I also do not like it. I always respond "Catholic". Furthermore, the correct term should be Christians since we are the only Church Christ Lord instituted and thus, the only true soldiers of Christ.