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Offline GJC

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Re: Children’s Ballet
« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2017, 11:16:41 AM »
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  • It's not just about what's an occasion of sin but about what's appropriate and decent.  I would not suffer the slightest temptation watching a ballet.  I just find that the poses and outfits are vulgar and immodest ... and won't watch out of principle.  I call BS on your "entirely innocent celebration of ... the beauty of the human form".

    Indeed, I would whitewash the Sistine chapel ceiling, or, rather sandblast it so that it can never be "restored".  Michaelangelo's repugnant homoerotic art should find no place in a church.  Again, it causes me no temptation ... but it's repugnant and out of place.  Should I walk into a church with my butt hanging out of my pants?

    St. Paul speaks about modesty of dress from the perspective of what is fitting for a temple of the Holy Spirit.

    Showing up in a sweatshirt at Mass is wrong (unless it's all you have) ... not because it might cause temptations but because it is not fitting for the house of God.

    Women should not watch boxing because it would be inappropriate ... whether or not they'd be "tempted".
    ^^^this^^^^



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    Re: Children’s Ballet
    « Reply #16 on: December 07, 2017, 11:17:53 AM »
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  • I see nobody is concerned with the gross dishonesty of the articles. I guess the pornographic horrors of ballet outweigh sins aganist the Eigth Commandment.
    I don't think that is true, thanks for posting them.




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    Re: Children’s Ballet
    « Reply #17 on: December 07, 2017, 11:23:09 AM »
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  • I agree with the TIA article in that dancing itself is no intrinsically bad; but it becomes bad insofar as it favors bad morals. There are some dances which are fine. The folkloric ones, for example, which do not entice lust, romance, or other disordered passions by means of immodest dress or sensual movement. The problem with Ballet is twofold: the immodest outfits and the improper poses for Catholic girls (and boys). In the article, we find a simple criteria for parents to discern the appropriateness of dances:

    1. Dresses are modest
    2. Positions are appropriate
    3. Movements are decent
    I do like the idea of folkloric dancing because it is much more modest than most modern dancing and always has a charming theme as well. 
    My children are mostly German and Italian so it would be fun to search out performances by these and other nationalities as well. I think Irish dancing is just lovely. 

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    Re: Children’s Ballet
    « Reply #18 on: December 07, 2017, 11:31:10 AM »
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  • Indeed, I would whitewash the Sistine chapel ceiling, or, rather sandblast it so that it can never be "restored".  Michaelangelo's repugnant homoerotic art should find no place in a church.  Again, it causes me no temptation ... but it's repugnant and out of place.  
    Indeed, just because it is in the Sistine Chapel does not make it ok. I would do the same given the chance.  :applause:

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    Re: Children’s Ballet
    « Reply #19 on: December 07, 2017, 12:07:58 PM »
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  • Indeed, just because it is in the Sistine Chapel does not make it ok. I would do the same given the chance.  :applause:

    Yes, I can just imagine being a priest, offering Mass there, elevating the Sacred Host, looking up at Him, only to see male genitalia dangling right next to Our Lord.


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    Re: Children’s Ballet
    « Reply #20 on: December 09, 2017, 11:17:52 PM »
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  • Yes I would have to agree with you, the homosexual vibe is a problem in theatre companies and I find it more disturbing also. That was something I hadn’t considered or rather forgot it was such a prominent issue.


    I've seen various performances of the Nutcracker and classical ballets but have never noticed any with a "homosexual vibe".  

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    Re: Children’s Ballet
    « Reply #21 on: December 10, 2017, 12:10:44 AM »
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  • I've seen various performances of the Nutcracker and classical ballets but have never noticed any with a "homosexual vibe".  
    I think it may be more common in certain cities where being gay is very popular and encouraged even. Homosexuals, male and female are very open where I live, and it would make sense they’d be performing in local theatre here. 

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    Re: Children’s Ballet
    « Reply #22 on: December 10, 2017, 08:06:40 AM »
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  • I've seen various performances of the Nutcracker and classical ballets but have never noticed any with a "homosexual vibe".  

    Uhm, every guy who does ballet has homosexual vibe.  But then women's "gaydars" are not nearly as sensitive as those of men.


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    Re: Children’s Ballet
    « Reply #23 on: December 10, 2017, 04:08:04 PM »
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  • Amen to sandblasting the Sistine chapel ceiling.

    Abbe Henri-Louis Hulot's book on dancing contains many references and citations.
    Sincerely,

    Shin

    'Flores apparuerunt in terra nostra. . . Fulcite me floribus.' (The flowers appear on the earth. . . stay me up with flowers. Sg 2:12,5)'-

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    Re: Children’s Ballet
    « Reply #24 on: December 11, 2017, 01:17:25 AM »
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  • We are to glorify God.

    Instead, people are glorifying creatures rather than the Creator.

    Isn't that why God did not want Israel to have Kings?
    God knew that there is always a tendency to worship kings,
    and that unjust kings would impose draconian hardships on their people.
    Didn't the Romans worship their emperors as deities during the time of Christ?

    Buildings that are dedicated as Churches should glorify God, not humanity.
    Paintings, adornments, and icons in the Churches should remind one of heaven,
    and should be windows into heaven, so that our minds are elevated to the divine.

    Lord have mercy.

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    Re: Children’s Ballet
    « Reply #25 on: December 13, 2017, 06:46:52 PM »
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  • TIA is definitely fringe, and not always the most intellectually honest. I wouldn’t hold much weight in their articles. 

    I think St Jean Marie Vianney dealt very well with the matter of dancing. 
    https://www.olrl.org/snt_docs/dancing.shtml

    I can’t say it would be a mortal sin to attend per se, but when it comes to these things, should children be dressed in skin tight clothing? It would obviously be a sin for an adult to wear, so why say it’s ok for children, just because they haven’t hit puberty?


     

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