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Offline Maria Regina

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Re: Swimming pools
« Reply #45 on: June 13, 2018, 02:24:08 PM »
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  • I would make a distinction between dressed going to the beach and dressed going shopping and dressed going to mass.
    One should dress modestly in public.
    I wear the same good clothes going to church as I do when shopping or visiting friends.
    I do not go swimming.
    Lord have mercy.

    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: Swimming pools
    « Reply #46 on: June 14, 2018, 08:51:39 AM »
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    Really? What about when they're homosexuals, is it okay for them too?

    As a general rule.  If it temps a man to see naked men, then he should avoid the occasion ... obviously.


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    Re: Swimming pools
    « Reply #47 on: June 14, 2018, 12:30:01 PM »
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  • Can anyone say that going swimming is a necessity of life? It's not like "simply never go swimming" is such a crazy, out-of-this-world suggestion like growing all your own food, producing all your own goods, surviving in the wilderness, etc.

    You just simply: never go swimming! It's as easy as never going biking, never going canoeing, never going skydiving, etc.

    Your "bucket list" might look like ____ compared to other worldly peoples' lists, but who cares? Catholics should only have ONE mandatory item on their bucket list, which is prioritized before all others:

    [ ]  Be found pleasing to God, blameless before Him, and in the State of Grace at the time of death

    Everything else is just extra fluff.

    If that item isn't checked off at death, it won't matter how many places on earth you've been, sites you've seen, experiences you've had, or anything like that. It will all be for naught if you find yourself in hell for eternity.

    I'm sure heaven will be more fun than any swimming experience on earth.
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    Offline Neil Obstat

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    Re: Swimming pools
    « Reply #48 on: June 14, 2018, 03:29:23 PM »
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  • Can anyone say that going swimming is a necessity of life? It's not like "simply never go swimming" is such a crazy, out-of-this-world suggestion like growing all your own food, producing all your own goods, surviving in the wilderness, etc.

    You just simply: never go swimming! It's as easy as never going biking, never going canoeing, never going skydiving, etc.

    Your "bucket list" might look like ____ compared to other worldly peoples' lists, but who cares? Catholics should only have ONE mandatory item on their bucket list, which is prioritized before all others:

    [ ]  Be found pleasing to God, blameless before Him, and in the State of Grace at the time of death

    Everything else is just extra fluff.

    If that item isn't checked off at death, it won't matter how many places on earth you've been, sites you've seen, experiences you've had, or anything like that. It will all be for naught if you find yourself in hell for eternity.

    I'm sure heaven will be more fun than any swimming experience on earth.
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    So, by this standard, we'd be better off hiding in our closet all week and just showing up for Mass on Sunday, and then going home.
    Otherwise we'd be a home-aloner, and everyone knows that's no good.
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    Then we could check off that item at our death, and go to heaven.
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    Never go scuba diving, never get a driver's license, never fly a kite, never play baseball, never learn to ice skate, never jump off the high dive, never ride a ski lift or ski down a pristine mountain of fresh powder, never try windsurfing, never fly a helicopter, never hang glide, never drive a formula 1 race car or a dragster, never fire a high-powered rifle, never run a race, never pole-vault, never watch a movie, never go trick-or-treating, never have a mixed drink, never go to a philharmonic concert, never go bowling, never learn to ride a bicycle, never learn to ride a unicycle, never pop a wheelie on a motorcycle, never learn to ride a motorcycle over basketball-sized rocks while going downhill in the desert, never race motorcycles in a sand wash, never fly a helicopter, never operate a drone, never use a GPS or a cell phone, never use the Internet, never walk a tightrope, never go skeet shooting, never go hunting, never go fishing, never sail a boat, never ride a horse, never rope a steer, never throw a party, never have dessert, never cook breakfast, never tell a joke?
    Why?
    Well, it might be the occasion of sin!
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    Re: Swimming pools
    « Reply #49 on: June 14, 2018, 03:35:09 PM »
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  • If you read my post more closely, you'll see that I said one MANDATORY item. Other items might be nice or fun, but not mandatory.

    How many Catholics risk fulfilling this mandatory item (saving our souls, and those of our children) for the sake of a splash in the pool? It's ridiculous.

    It's not worth risking our souls to "have fun". That's my point. And there are so many other ways to have fun. I won't even bother listing them since there are literally thousands of other things you can do outside, for exercise, and to have fun other than swimming. Heck, a sprinkler and a hose, slip-n-slide, water guns, water balloons, or other devices will get you plenty wet in your own backyard. And then you won't have to worry about occasions of sin.

    If one can't swim or enjoy beaches without exposing oneself to occasions of sin, then simply forego swimming and beaches. No big deal!

    The solution is simple: If you need to be the water that bad, so you feel like you'll die without floating in cool water from time to time, then prioritize getting an in-ground or at least an above-ground pool for a few hundred bucks. You'll survive.
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    Re: Swimming pools
    « Reply #50 on: June 14, 2018, 03:55:00 PM »
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    I heard of a family who set up an above-ground pool in their back yard so all the children could splash around in privacy. Then one day when the family activities were as usual, very busy, one small child found his way into the pool assisted by an older, retarded sibling, and drowned. They drained the pool the same day and got rid of it for good.
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    Re: Swimming pools
    « Reply #51 on: June 14, 2018, 04:25:32 PM »
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  • There are actually many cases of young children drowning -- it makes me glad we don't have a pool.


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    Drowning is responsible for more deaths among children 1-4 than any other cause except birth defects. Among those 1-14, fatal drowning remains the second-leading cause of unintentional injury-related death behind motor vehicle crashes.

    When I read that, I think to myself, "There are worse fates in the world than not having a pool in your backyard, or not being able to go swimming for various reasons -- since a ton of risk is avoided at the same time."
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    Re: Swimming pools
    « Reply #52 on: June 14, 2018, 04:37:54 PM »
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  • This brings up another good question related to the topic:
    It was either Pius IX or X who said mixed-gender swimming was an occasion to sin.  Modernism has infected us all to such a degree that we don’t even realize it...
    What about siblings?  My children are young enough yet that this hasn't become a major issue, but it's getting there quickly.  What do other people do with their children?


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    Re: Swimming pools
    « Reply #53 on: June 14, 2018, 07:00:50 PM »
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  • This brings up another good question related to the topic:What about siblings?  My children are young enough yet that this hasn't become a major issue, but it's getting there quickly.  What do other people do with their children?
    I seriously doubt your children are incestuously attracted to one another. Just have them dress modestly regardless, even if there's no one else around it gets them used to it at the very least. 

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    Re: Swimming pools
    « Reply #54 on: June 15, 2018, 08:50:46 AM »
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    So, by this standard, we'd be better off hiding in our closet all week and just showing up for Mass on Sunday, and then going home.
    = I like swimming in crowded public beaches. 
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    Re: Swimming pools
    « Reply #55 on: June 15, 2018, 09:58:11 AM »
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  • We do have a pool at home and I dress my children in shorts and rash guards and we have never had any issues. My children understand perfectly well that ‘swim clothing’ is not appropriate for walking around the house or going to town, just as skirts and neckties are not appropriate for the pool. 
    My biggest concern was how to deal with other family members that don’t have modesty standards in and around pools, and how to deal with invitations to parties. 

    My children have accepted the ‘no beach rule’ here just fine, but extended family members sometimes don’t understand the modesty thing and look at you like you’re speaking another language when it comes up. (I always second guess myself on how to say it so that I know I’m saying it well)

    I am thinking I’ll just decline the swimming invites from now on though. I can’t tell people how to dress when we are around and don’t want to risk and uncomfortable situation with my children by going anyway.  We don't even go to public parks that have splash pads.. little kids in bikinis  :-[


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    Re: Swimming pools
    « Reply #56 on: June 15, 2018, 07:17:08 PM »
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  • I seriously doubt your children are incestuously attracted to one another. Just have them dress modestly regardless, even if there's no one else around it gets them used to it at the very least.
    I agree I don’t think it’s likely that children will think in that way but equally we do have very strict rules (absorbed and acted on with no comment) about modesty at home and in public. 
    We do allow the children to swim on the beach but beach clothes are strictly for the beach and the water. Shorts and tea shirt for the boys and a dress for our daughter immediately otherwise. 
    Boys wear proper loose fitting and longer leg shorts and our daughter a swim dress.  

     

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