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Re: Support family 1 income, but 1960s standard of living?
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2026, 03:02:30 PM »
My parents purchased a real fixer-upper home formerly rented by the National Guard while they expanded their housing capability.  This was 1956.  Only one room was livable. Three small bedrooms, combination living room dining room, medium sized kitchen, small bathroom, full, unfinished cellar, unfinished garage beneath the house. It’s on 1 1/7 acre, corner lot, half wooded, in 1956, a total jungle of shrubs, vines, ivy, trees. poison ivy covering everything. Originally built in 1923, back porch, kitchen area enlarged, garage dug beneath in 1925.
My parents paid $9,000 for it. It got fixed up gradually by Dad, my uncles, friends, etc. My folks moved in in December 1959. 

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Re: Support family 1 income, but 1960s standard of living?
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2026, 03:11:19 PM »
I was giving an average, rather than an extreme case. More compelling that way.
Yes, many people could get by with a $50 Android phone. They are quite capable -- about 90% similar -- to a $200 phone. You can hardly tell the difference.

As for how long you can keep it -- it depends on the BATTERY firstly. They don't last forever. Next of all, it's a portable device, and has quite an adventurous life. It can be broken, cracked, dropped, dunked, lost, stolen, etc. So I'm just being realistic that not everyone can use the same smartphone for 8 years.

Next of all, what is the latest version of Android your phone was given? As you know, it's up to the manufacturer how long they'll support your phone with upgrades to new Android versions. After several years, some apps will no longer install on it, due to your Android version being too old. It takes a lot more than 3-4 years for this though.

As an aside, iPhones are luxury goods, designer goods, for status. That's what they are.
I change the battery every 4 years, and try to minimize the number of cycles on it. I avoid apps and downloads as much as possible, because life was and still is fine without them, and cycling the solid state memory with downloads can wear it out causing catastrophic failure. It stopped getting updates long ago. I wouldn't call them cheap, just paid for in part by the phone bill.


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Re: Support family 1 income, but 1960s standard of living?
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2026, 11:46:45 AM »
I change the battery every 4 years, and try to minimize the number of cycles on it. I avoid apps and downloads as much as possible, because life was and still is fine without them, and cycling the solid state memory with downloads can wear it out causing catastrophic failure. It stopped getting updates long ago. I wouldn't call them cheap, just paid for in part by the phone bill.

Yes, you can change the battery. At least in theory.
I tried to replace the battery on my wife's Pixel 6, and I snapped one of the brittle ribbon cables when I opened it. Turns out, you can't just replace the ribbon cable, you need a whole new screen. So it wasn't worth repairing.

I've replaced the battery on some of my phones; but in most recent years I had a couple $40 phones, which were already annoyingly slow, had the batteries die (actually, they died by swelling up, not by "failing to charge") and I just decided to get a new, fast phone WITH a battery, for $50. I noticed the speed boost right away, and felt I made the right decision.

Because: replacing the battery isn't like opening the battery door on your TV remote control and popping in 2 fresh AA batteries. If only!
No, you need special equipment, you have to carefully open the thing, it's not as easy as removing a bunch of phillips screws on the back of the case. And once inside, you have to unplug and unscrew all sorts of things because everything is packed in like sardines. Oh, and the battery is held in place by some serious glue -- it's difficult to get it out, without ripping the Lithium battery open (and starting a fire).

These phones are NOT designed to be serviced at ALL, not even something as straightforward as a battery replacement.

BTW, if you feel no need for a smartphone or apps, because "life was and still is fine without them", why own a smartphone at all? They do make dumb-phones, you know. Phones that don't have Android, that only do calling and texting, etc.

Offline Everlast22

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Re: Support family 1 income, but 1960s standard of living?
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2026, 12:36:14 PM »
It isn't as much the issue of having to buck up and work hard and budget, be smart with money, etc...

I'm cool with that. I get that.

What I'm not cool with is constantly being stolen from. Tax raises, rent raises, stagnating wages, etc. My taxes going to fund whores and worthless niggers (for example).

A house that was 106k in 2021 October is going for 220k right now... Food is twice as much as it was 5 years ago. I have to deal with annoying smelly nons in any kind of tech/math sector, when they shouldn't be hired because 99 percent of them suck at their job.

What I'm even MORE not cool with, is the fact I can't do a damn thing about it.



Offline St Giles

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Re: Support family 1 income, but 1960s standard of living?
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2026, 07:07:56 PM »
Yes, you can change the battery. At least in theory.
I tried to replace the battery on my wife's Pixel 6, and I snapped one of the brittle ribbon cables when I opened it. Turns out, you can't just replace the ribbon cable, you need a whole new screen. So it wasn't worth repairing.

I've replaced the battery on some of my phones; but in most recent years I had a couple $40 phones, which were already annoyingly slow, had the batteries die (actually, they died by swelling up, not by "failing to charge") and I just decided to get a new, fast phone WITH a battery, for $50. I noticed the speed boost right away, and felt I made the right decision.

Because: replacing the battery isn't like opening the battery door on your TV remote control and popping in 2 fresh AA batteries. If only!
No, you need special equipment, you have to carefully open the thing, it's not as easy as removing a bunch of phillips screws on the back of the case. And once inside, you have to unplug and unscrew all sorts of things because everything is packed in like sardines. Oh, and the battery is held in place by some serious glue -- it's difficult to get it out, without ripping the Lithium battery open (and starting a fire).

These phones are NOT designed to be serviced at ALL, not even something as straightforward as a battery replacement.

BTW, if you feel no need for a smartphone or apps, because "life was and still is fine without them", why own a smartphone at all? They do make dumb-phones, you know. Phones that don't have Android, that only do calling and texting, etc.
I just pop the back off, battery falls out, put in a new one, snap the back back on. It is a slow phone at times, no multi tasking is best, but I just wait to use the desktop if my phone can't. 

I broke a ribbon cable on an Ipod nano attempting to change the battery. I would have attempted to solder on tiny jumper wires if I needed it fixed, but had alternatives for no extra cost or trouble.