Author Topic: Sunday Work Question (Read 4375 times)

Matthew · « **Reply #15 on:** October 18, 2011, 02:01:07 AM »

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Related question, I live with my parents and my dad asked me to do yardwork around the house last sunday like weeding. I knew it was wrong, but I don't have a job and I was afraid he would kick me out of the house if I said no. So I weeded for an hour on Sunday. I know this is at least a venial sin, but is it a mortal sin? I had full knowledge, but I didn't really want to do it. I was unsure if it was a grave matter. I'm sorry if this seems like a stupid question, but it has been stressing me out lately. Is this a form of scruples or genuine concern?

As I suggested, I think the ideal would be to ask your dad a few days in advance what he'd like done this weekend. If you approach HIM (instead of the other way around), maybe you can do it Friday or Saturday. But if you make yourself scarce (on purpose or not) and Sunday is the first time he manages to "catch" you -- and he wanted some weeding done this wekeend -- you can expect him to require it of you on Sunday. He's not going to care what day it is.

I'm a head of household myself -- I know how stressful it is to have tons of things that need doing.

curiouscatholic23 · « **Reply #16 on:** October 18, 2011, 02:02:59 AM »

Is it a mortal sin to officate youth "CYO" basketball on Sunday? I can't find a job and I need the money. Technically, I am an independent contractor so I pick and choose what games I do. Am I committing mortal sin by deliberate accepting Sunday games when I don't have to? Could the mortal sin be reduced to venial sin because I don't have a regular job yet?

curiouscatholic23 · « **Reply #17 on:** October 18, 2011, 02:05:38 AM »

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Related question, I live with my parents and my dad asked me to do yardwork around the house last sunday like weeding. I knew it was wrong, but I don't have a job and I was afraid he would kick me out of the house if I said no. So I weeded for an hour on Sunday. I know this is at least a venial sin, but is it a mortal sin? I had full knowledge, but I didn't really want to do it. I was unsure if it was a grave matter. I'm sorry if this seems like a stupid question, but it has been stressing me out lately. Is this a form of scruples or genuine concern?

As I suggested, I think the ideal would be to ask your dad a few days in advance what he'd like done this weekend. If you approach HIM (instead of the other way around), maybe you can do it Friday or Saturday. But if you make yourself scarce (on purpose or not) and Sunday is the first time he manages to "catch" you -- and he wanted some weeding done this wekeend -- you can expect him to require it of you on Sunday. He's not going to care what day it is.

I'm a head of household myself -- I know how stressful it is to have tons of things that need doing.

Oh I completely agree Matthew. From now on I will approach my father earlier in the week so I can do chores on Friday and Saturday. Its just difficult because my family typically cleans the garage and house on Sundays, in addition to landscaping.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #18 on:** October 18, 2011, 09:19:30 AM »

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Related question, I live with my parents and my dad asked me to do yardwork around the house last sunday like weeding. I knew it was wrong, but I don't have a job and I was afraid he would kick me out of the house if I said no. So I weeded for an hour on Sunday. I know this is at least a venial sin, but is it a mortal sin? I had full knowledge, but I didn't really want to do it. I was unsure if it was a grave matter. I'm sorry if this seems like a stupid question, but it has been stressing me out lately. Is this a form of scruples or genuine concern?

I know what's like living with a father who isn't afraid to work on Sunday. You should just tell him that you'll do yardwork any other day of the week but won't work on Sunday. If he kicks you out of the house for that, then he's the one who has problems.

I'm not sure if weeding for an hour was a mortal sin or not. You should check with a Traditional priest on that.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #19 on:** October 18, 2011, 09:21:13 AM »

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Is it a mortal sin to officate youth "CYO" basketball on Sunday? I can't find a job and I need the money. Technically, I am an independent contractor so I pick and choose what games I do. Am I committing mortal sin by deliberate accepting Sunday games when I don't have to? Could the mortal sin be reduced to venial sin because I don't have a regular job yet?

Well sports shouldn't be played on Sunday given that it's the Lord's Day, so if I were you I'd try to get out of officiating on Sunday. In fact, you may want to look for another job altogether, didn't you say you officiated women's basketball games?

curiouscatholic23 · « **Reply #20 on:** October 18, 2011, 10:33:25 AM »

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Is it a mortal sin to officate youth "CYO" basketball on Sunday? I can't find a job and I need the money. Technically, I am an independent contractor so I pick and choose what games I do. Am I committing mortal sin by deliberate accepting Sunday games when I don't have to? Could the mortal sin be reduced to venial sin because I don't have a regular job yet?

Well sports shouldn't be played on Sunday given that it's the Lord's Day, so if I were you I'd try to get out of officiating on Sunday. In fact, you may want to look for another job altogether, didn't you say you officiated women's basketball games?

girls basektball games, sometimes with female officials. I may be wrong, but I think an SSPX boys basketball team in St. Mary's refused to play a game because a female official was assingned to the game. It cauased a lot of uproar in the media. Not to derail the thread.

Antony · « **Reply #21 on:** October 18, 2011, 06:17:35 PM »

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Related question, I live with my parents and my dad asked me to do yardwork around the house last sunday like weeding. I knew it was wrong, but I don't have a job and I was afraid he would kick me out of the house if I said no. So I weeded for an hour on Sunday. I know this is at least a venial sin, but is it a mortal sin? I had full knowledge, but I didn't really want to do it. I was unsure if it was a grave matter. I'm sorry if this seems like a stupid question, but it has been stressing me out lately. Is this a form of scruples or genuine concern?

Dont worry. It would only be a mortal sin if you did it for two or three hours. The three basics also have to apply, grave matter, full knowledge, and full consent. The two or three hour thing I heard from a a trad priest who got it from a trad moral theologian.

Antony · « **Reply #22 on:** October 18, 2011, 06:23:26 PM »

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Quote from: curiouscatholic23
Related question, I live with my parents and my dad asked me to do yardwork around the house last sunday like weeding. I knew it was wrong, but I don't have a job and I was afraid he would kick me out of the house if I said no. So I weeded for an hour on Sunday. I know this is at least a venial sin, but is it a mortal sin? I had full knowledge, but I didn't really want to do it. I was unsure if it was a grave matter. I'm sorry if this seems like a stupid question, but it has been stressing me out lately. Is this a form of scruples or genuine concern?

Dont worry. It would only be a mortal sin if you did it for two or three hours. The three basics also have to apply, grave matter, full knowledge, and full consent. The two or three hour thing I heard from a a trad priest who got it from a trad moral theologian.

Not that i agree with working on Sundays. It should be avoided at all costs. However, I heard a priest say ,that while she shouldnt do, a mother who did a load of laundry on Sunday would only be commiting a venial sin. Yet we should strive never to sin at all, venially or mortally, oh what a sin it is even to commit a deliberate venial sin.

On another note, thank you Matthew for the advice. I will try to be an exemplary employee.

ServantOfTheAlmighty · « **Reply #23 on:** October 18, 2011, 11:44:19 PM »

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Is it a mortal sin to officate youth "CYO" basketball on Sunday? I can't find a job and I need the money. Technically, I am an independent contractor so I pick and choose what games I do. Am I committing mortal sin by deliberate accepting Sunday games when I don't have to? Could the mortal sin be reduced to venial sin because I don't have a regular job yet?

You're working on Sunday. What don't you understand?

Other than by working in certain important professions, there isn't an exception. Especially for sports.

If you live under your parents, why do you need money? Is the few bucks you make on Sunday worth offending God and burning in Hell for an eternity?

If people who work on Sunday under threat of termination are committing sin, it's egregious that you yourself are freely choosing to work on Sunday.

Remember what Christ said: that "the love of money is the root of all evil".

ora pro me · « **Reply #24 on:** October 19, 2011, 10:38:37 PM »

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Not that i agree with working on Sundays. It should be avoided at all costs. However, I heard a priest say ,that while she shouldnt do, a mother who did a load of laundry on Sunday would only be commiting a venial sin. Yet we should strive never to sin at all, venially or mortally, oh what a sin it is even to commit a deliberate venial sin.

Antony,
My priest says that since the washing machine is actually doing the work, it's ok to do a load of laundry on Sunday, particularly if the clothes are needed the next day, such as work clothes or school clothes. Putting clothes in a machine and turning it on is not the same thing as doing servile work.

I cringe when I see someone here post that such and such is a venial sin or such and such is a mortal sin.

Please, folks, talk to your own confessor and don't take someone's word on the internet that such and such is a sin.

ora pro me · « **Reply #25 on:** October 19, 2011, 10:43:47 PM »

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Is it a mortal sin to officate youth "CYO" basketball on Sunday? I can't find a job and I need the money. Technically, I am an independent contractor so I pick and choose what games I do. Am I committing mortal sin by deliberate accepting Sunday games when I don't have to? Could the mortal sin be reduced to venial sin because I don't have a regular job yet?

CuriousCatholic23,
These are questions for your confessor. (I hope you have a confessor.) Since you don't have a regular job yet, that certainly has an impact on your situation, but please talk to your confessor.
You are in my prayers.
ora pro me