again, how does this end abortion-a lot of wheel turning. Since 1973, and before, a lot of "this paper says that abortion is bad", but no real change in direction. maybe it says something false, maybe not-fine, let someone attack it maybe, but in the end, a lot of wasted efforts and wheel turning, fighting over scraps when main meal is yet to be attacked

what is a waste of time and despicable is a Party, obviously from this and other posts of yours, that you supprot and that continue to lie and decieve Catholics

what is a waste of time and effort is that 37 yrs after Roe, we are no closer to ending abortion, even with GOP in White House and Congress, state houses,etc.

again, if someone wants to offer a counter study to this, fine-but again, what SUBSTANTIVE efforts are being made?? what? where? when?

This arguing over the study has not saved the life of one child.

guess, though, you are happy to debate this and not actually take ACTION toward ending abortion. Most today accept abortion as a "fact" and majority allow for abortion in certain instances, few, very fewbeleive all abortion is evil and to be stopped.

again, what does this link and article actually do?? nada...it is again arguing over the re-positioning of the deck chairs on the Titanic, not actually saving anyone drowning.

So, again, I see that GOP is for you not to be criticized and empty words and studies are fine, guess so, but lets maybe actually save lives instead...

What saves lives? in secular sense? education and electing those truly committed to saving lives, not because someone has a "R" after the name.....

But the real fight is in the realm of prayer, the sacred....

gain, dont kill the messanger that does not want to go down the useless road we have trodden thus far, one with a loser agenda....the enemy, no not me, the true enemy have made several gains post and pre-Roe......

sorry you cannto se that clearly, but if stupid and useless articles and voting for the battering spouses in the GOP make you feel better, then hey-that is the key, right? feeling better, like we are doing something.....results, hey, who cares.....aiming for actually acheiving something, why bother.

what I find despicable is who gullible Catholics are actually happy with little action and little actual goals...especially from this group, that is so tied to GOP and the Prolife Industry (the need to act prolife and make money, raise $$ but not truly committed to ending abortion, hence ending the gravy train).

any logical review of the last 37 yrs would result in the conclusion that little has been achieved, a long waste of time in bread crumbs....the real warriors are those that actually pray and act to make differences......again, the battle plan of the pro-life movement for 37 yrs is a study is loserdom......

warped is to continue to do the same failed thing day after day, the same failed philosophy....no, not letting my dislike of GOP warp anything, though continuing lying is not edifying, I could really care less....Vote for GOPers like Ron Paul, prolife Libertarians, CPers,etc....thankfully, I am not locked in and tied to partisanism......I did vote for Paul in GOP primary in 2008, after all...

yes, they are wasting a lot of time....again, still 1 1/2 or so million aborted babies a yr, majority of populace still pro-abort and no changes in law nor enorcement of same...nothing, really, of substance has been acheived.....

despicable to say? no, it is actually being honest.....what would be despicable to to keep the charades up.

Juliee would be better to do sidewalk counseling, non-violent protests (remember, in 80's, when people locked themselves to doors, cars,etc...dont see that civil disobediance now in pro-life, do we!). She would do well to stop promoting the Democrats=bad, GOP=good (I had started on this forum a expose of her group, basically, as a GOP front) and urging intense spiritual warfare...otherwise, same old pablem and "victory is around the corner, keep voting GOP" etc,etc.....same old "here is a study" kinda thing. People are not swayed bt studies, empty talk-these days, direct action is the only real thing they understand....

The conservative movement and Prolife movement, along with Moral Majority, Christian Colaition,etc are on the ash heap of loserdom....

sorry, just being honest-the Prolife movement long ago lost credibility by selling out to partisanship, indifferentism, bread crumb and bread-alone measures......

"But the real fight is in the realm of prayer, the sacred.... "

Eph 6:12!

Most people that I know that are involved in the "pro-life movement" are obsessed with it and are a real turn off. As if there aren't worse things going on...sacrilege of the Blessed Sacrament is infinitely worse of a crime than abortion.

So receiving communion in mortal sin is worse than abortion?

Does receiving communion in mortal sin cause automatic excommunication?

Belloc's attack on prolifers is disgusting.  It's one thing to be frustrated with them, I am myself.  It's another thing to berate them for trying to make a difference.  Public opinion on abortion has shifted.

PS  Why he asserts without any evidence that I support the Republicans is beyond me.  Belloc has a real problem.  

What do you think the worst crime ever committed in the world was?

The Crucifixion.

as both are mortal sins, not sure how we can say one is better or worse...true, some fellow might say one is, but as far as Church official teaching, not seeing the proof.

Murder is intrinsically evil and cries out to heaven for vengence, soo too defrauding a wager earner of his wages, but is defrauding worse then sacrilege.?