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St Jude Thaddeus · « **on:** December 15, 2009, 09:36:34 PM »

2nd-grader sent home for crucifix drawing

Dad says teacher became upset when boy drew himself on a cross

TAUNTON, Mass. - An 8-year-old boy was sent home from school and ordered to undergo a psychological evaluation after he was asked to make a Christmas drawing and came up with what appeared to be a stick figure of Jesus on a cross, the child's father said Tuesday.

The father said in the days before the incident the family had gone to the National Shrine of Our Lady of La Salette in Attleboro, where there are crucifixion statues.

"That was fresh on his mind," he told NECN. "And that was a good thing that he saw."

Whole story: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34433914/ns/us_news-education/?GT1=43001

Elizabeth · « **Reply #1 on:** December 15, 2009, 10:17:16 PM »

time to lawyer up

CM · « **Reply #2 on:** December 15, 2009, 11:27:46 PM »

Time to get out of public school.

St Jude Thaddeus · « **Reply #3 on:** December 16, 2009, 01:03:49 AM »

Quote from: Elizabeth

time to lawyer up

Yep.

St Jude Thaddeus · « **Reply #4 on:** December 16, 2009, 01:04:46 AM »

Quote from: CM

Time to get out of public school.

Double yep.

Alex · « **Reply #5 on:** December 16, 2009, 02:56:15 AM »

"Johnson said the teacher became upset when his son said he drew himself on the cross."

I don't understand? Did the boy draw the teacher on the cross or did he draw himself on the cross? Which ever it was, maybe that is why the teacher was alarmed - because it wasn't Jesus on the cross but him or the boy.

Belloc · « **Reply #6 on:** December 16, 2009, 07:11:30 AM »

acrtually, people send their children to godless public schools-considered a sin in the old days by clergy and talked about as a sin-then they wonder why and time to call in Bill O'Reilly to save something.....

Note to parent-downsize your lifestyle, send your kid to a private school, homeschool, something other than Pharoah's schools....!!!!!

Why send the kid to a godless institution, then complain about it????

Alex · « **Reply #7 on:** December 16, 2009, 07:14:38 AM »

Quote from: Belloc

Note to parent-downsize your lifestyle, send your kid to a private school, homeschool, something other than Pharoah's schools....!!!!!

Not everyone has the money to send their child to private school. And many times, both parents unfortunately have to work so the mother cannot stay home and homeschool her child.

Belloc · « **Reply #8 on:** December 16, 2009, 07:34:27 AM »

I realize this, but also, why is the churches not doing more and why are parents-often times sooo concenred with school reassignment-not demanding more....Catholic schools, private, homeschooling,etc..

In my area it is constantly on TV the school re-assignment problems, parents show up in droves,but not to demand a change in thinking/culture...certainly no demands put on clergy and the Church....

Complaining about how bad public schools treat one, but demanding no changes is worthless wheel spinning......

I sympathize-my parents spent a lot sending my to Catholic school and paying crushing NY state taxes for public, but they demanded and fought, as did others......

it also detracts from teh real issues, this whinning over public schools not allowing Christian expression.....like no kidding, it has been going on for the last several yrs.....have a good talk put out by VOCR called "Education and the NWO"

Trying to see if i can find it somewhere, VOCR does not always keep their old podcasts on the site, too much space needed.....their page is out of order right now.....

makes a good point....

parentsfortruth · « **Reply #9 on:** December 16, 2009, 07:44:00 AM »

Quote from: Alex

"Johnson said the teacher became upset when his son said he drew himself on the cross."

I don't understand? Did the boy draw the teacher on the cross or did he draw himself on the cross? Which ever it was, maybe that is why the teacher was alarmed - because it wasn't Jesus on the cross but him or the boy.

I saw the picture. He did not draw it of himself, he drew Jesus' name at the top where the INRI usually goes.

Lybus · « **Reply #10 on:** December 16, 2009, 08:40:43 AM »

I am sure that anyone who would associate Jesus with Christmas would need psychological theropy.

littlerose · « **Reply #11 on:** December 16, 2009, 09:51:26 AM »

Quote from: Lybus

I am sure that anyone who would associate Jesus with Christmas would need psychological theropy.

An absolutely anti-Catholic statement! A basic teaching of the church is the connection between Christmas and Good Friday.

As far as the intent of the school, yes it is consciously persecuting Catholics. In the New York case, DiBari V Bedford, an important legal precedent was set to prevent public schools from persecuting family religions, but the Catholic priests who were the witnesses to help win that case went back into protecting their private careers after that, and the Church has done nothing to keep that issue alive.

Some of the important evidence in that case was a training itinerary provided by a concerned Massachusetts teacher, an actual anti-Catholic himself, who was ORDERED by the state to attend a training session that included how to undermine ʝʊdɛօ-christian religious culture in the public schools K-3.

That material was what tipped the Court to consider that intentional religious persecution was going on, and not, as the Bedford school tried to claim, accidental "insensitivity".

Why isn't the Church doing something? In MASSACHUSETTS? Well, that's a subject for at least three other threads, isn't it?

The major problem is that too many Catholics have their heads buried in ecclesiastic details completely disconnected from the real fight that is being waged by normal laity who are courageous enough to go to the La Salette shrine in the first place.

If you do not recognize that the young boy in question is a martyr, right here, right now, then, Satan get thee behind me.

Belloc · « **Reply #12 on:** December 16, 2009, 09:54:07 AM »

The Church doing womething? other than SSPX protests occasionally against things, the Church is by and large impotent and laughable..they were on Capitol Hill protesting the death penalty the day Terry Schiavo was murdered......in Florida, mainly a few priests, laity and Prots were protesting that..

Elizabeth · « **Reply #13 on:** December 16, 2009, 10:02:46 AM »

Littlerose, Lybus was joking; his smilie didn't print out.

littlerose · « **Reply #14 on:** December 16, 2009, 10:05:25 AM »

You saying the Church can't afford a lawyer in Taunton? There are no Catholic lawyers?

Are there any Catholic colleges teaching law? Freedom of speech, religion, all that jazz?

How many kids get sent home for drawing demons or multi-armed krishnas? Kids draw all kinds of things, and I know they draw those other things too because they see Krishna people and New Age stuff all around there, but only Jesus-related material raises flags with teachers.

And as far as the possibility it was the boy himself in the picture, what of all the Christian discussion of us placing our own sins there, etc? It is a common symbolic image that an immature mind would depict literally if they heard any preaching in that regard. Children don't do "abstract" art or even engage in a lot of metaphore until after a certain age, after all. Any teacher should know that and should only ask a couple of questions to see if the child was in fact having anxiety over "sin" and if the image was supported by the known family culture, the teacher certainly should have shrugged it off.

Why should kids get sent home for drawings in the first place? The only time it happened in my youth was when my brother drew critters all over the margin of a textbook in ink, and the issue was the marking up of a book, not the content of the drawings themselves.