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Student ordered to remove cross
« on: July 06, 2013, 04:20:15 AM »
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  • A student at Sonoma State University was ordered by her supervisor to remove her cross necklace while she was working at an orientation for new students.

    Audrey Jarvis, 19, was told “that she could not wear her cross necklace because it might offend others, it might make incoming students feel unwelcome, or it might cause incoming students to feel that ASP [Associated Students Productions] was not an organization they should join,” her attorney said.

    The supervisor also said that the university’s chancellor had forbidden the wearing of religious items, according to the attorney.

    Jarvis is “a strong Christian, a faith-filled young woman who spent her summers at Catholic camp,” her mother observed.

    Her mother recounted that Jarvis said, “Our faith was attacked. It’s unnerving. I know what’s going on in this country. I know Christianity is being attacked. Now, I know it first-hand and it sickens me and saddens me.”

    Ruben Armiñana, the university’s president, offered a public apology.

    “It was a stupid request and uncalled for and unsubstantiated and the person who did it has admitted all that,” said Armiñana, who added that there are “no constraints whatsoever, and there should not be and there will not be, about wearing what you want to wear — a cross, the Star of David, a covering on your head.”

    When asked whether Jarvis’s supervisor would be disciplined, Armiñana said, “I think I’m going to let the process dictate that.”

    http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=18366


    Offline poche

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    Student ordered to remove cross
    « Reply #1 on: July 06, 2013, 05:11:32 AM »
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  •  "it might make incoming students feel unwelcome,"
    I wonder how welcome it made her feel being told to remove her cross?


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    Student ordered to remove cross
    « Reply #2 on: July 06, 2013, 10:24:57 PM »
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  • Indeed.

    I wonder if any actual human beings anywhere, acting simply on their won rather than becasue they had a job requiring them to be idiots, have ever really been offended by someone wearing a cross.  I am not offended by people wearing symbols of other religions.  I doubt that anyone with even a small dose of common sense is.
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    Student ordered to remove cross
    « Reply #3 on: July 12, 2013, 03:33:50 AM »
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  • A Catholic college employee who won an apology from her public university after her supervisor told her to hide her cross necklace says students should defend their right to express their religious beliefs.

    “I would encourage them to stand up for their faith and their convictions,” Audrey Jarvis told CNA July 9. “If they sense that something is not right or might even be a violation of their rights, they should definitely speak up.”

    Jarvis, a 19-year-old liberal arts major at California's Sonoma State University, was working at a June 27 student orientation fair for new freshmen as an employee of the university’s Associated Student Productions, a student programming organization.

    Jarvis’ supervisor told her to remove the cross necklace because it might offend others or make new students feel unwelcome, the religious freedom legal group The Liberty Institute reports. The supervisor told her that the university chancellor had a policy against wearing religious items.

    “I was stunned and caught off guard. I did not expect this to happen to me,” Jarvis said. “I was quite upset and I left work early that day, which is out of character for me.”

    She said she doesn’t know why her supervisor, a university employee, thought her necklace could be offensive.

    Sonoma State University spokeswoman Susan Kashack told CNA / EWTN News that the employee was “absolutely wrong” to ask Jarvis to remove or hide her cross and did not correctly represent the university’s policy, which does not bar the display of religious items.

    “The employee realized his request was inappropriate and has tried to contact her to apologize,” Kashack said July 10, adding that the university president Ruben Armiñana offered his own “heartfelt apology” to the student.

    Kashack said the university’s Title IX officer is investigating the incident. She added that the university has a “strong non-discrimination policy.”

    “If and when Ms. Jarvis returns to campus there will be no issues with her wearing her cross or any other type of religious or cultural items,” the spokeswoman added. “We hope she returns to her campus as soon as possible.”

    Jarvis said she appreciated the university’s response. “I think the university has been very responsive and is clearly taking this very seriously. I am happy to see that,” she said.

    Mike Berry, an attorney with the Liberty Institute, said the university’s response is “an acknowledgment that students have the constitutional right to freely express their religious beliefs.”

    Schools may not discriminate against a student based on the religious or perceived-religious content of the student's speech,” he said.

    Berry said Jarvis is still waiting for a letter from the university apologizing for the incident and assuring her that she can still wear her cross and other religious items.

    Sonoma State University has over 8,000 students. It is part of the California State University system.

    http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/stand-up-for-your-faith-says-student-told-to-hide-cross-necklace/

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    Student ordered to remove cross
    « Reply #4 on: July 13, 2013, 12:09:16 AM »
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    « Reply #5 on: July 13, 2013, 01:39:09 AM »
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  • I imagine the "Mexican sees Our Lady in a toasted Hot Pocket" news story meant that Poche cancelled his travel plans.


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    Student ordered to remove cross
    « Reply #6 on: July 15, 2013, 05:49:56 PM »
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  • I find many of poche's post's disturbing, but I wish that people wouldn't keep saying hurtful things to him or about him. (Or her? Has poche ever revealed his or her gender?) If poche advocates a particular bit of conciliar nonsense it is good to address that, but all these ad hominem attacks are, in my opinion, uncharitable and unhelpful. We know nothing about who this person is, or the state of his soul, or why he thinks and speaks as he does. Please exercise some restraint, people. Jesus loves us so much he suffered and died for us; the least we can do is be civil to one another!
    "Let us thank God for having called us to His holy faith. It is a great gift, and the number of those who thank God for it is small."
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