I see that after a three month break in posting, Student of Qi has returned to CathInfo.

Qi is the "vital energy that is held to animate the body internally and is of central importance in some Eastern systems of medical treatment (as acupuncture ) and of exercise or self-defense (as tai chi )" [Merriam-Webster].  Another definition is "The circulating life force whose existence and properties are the basis of much Chinese philosophy and medicine." [Oxford English Dictionary].  For those not convinced, "The vital force believed in Taoism and other Chinese thought to be inherent in all things. The unimpeded circulation of chi and a balance of its negative and positive forms in the body are held to be essential to good health in traditional Chinese medicine." [The American Heritage Dictionary].

In popular culture, this might also be known as "The Force", as in, "May the Force be with you."  (C'mon, how many people immediately thought, "And also with you"?)

I would caution anyone actually thinking that anybody who goes by the moniker, Student of Qi, has anything of value to contribute to a Catholic Forum and all members should be very cautious reading his posts as he is very likely sent by Satan.

Posting history looks good.  Looks like he knows a thing or two.  Perhaps the name is ironic?  Or a lapse in judgment at the moment?  Admittedly the name is a tad off-putting, but there's certainly nothing in the posting history (or at least, the few pages I looked at-- starting at the beginning) to raise any red flags.  In his introductory post he wrote in a way that, IMO, intimated he had been on this forum or other forums before.

Thank you for all the criticism, I appreciate it! As Modesto Musorgsky (I think it was him) said to his friends concerning his works: "Critique mercilessly!"

Yes, acupuncture and reflexology are things that interest me and I study them from time to time. If it is inherently sinful I shall give it up but, it has been a source of inspiration in that studying the flow of energy only increased my awe of God The Father Almighty, Creator of all things visible and invisible. I am a practicing Traditionalist Roman Catholic and hope and pray to die one! I am part of the "Resistance" so, some of you here should actually know who I am, if from the South...

It all started practicing foot reflexology on my family to relieve stress and other pains, it was past down to me and has been used in my family for two generations. I began learning at the age of about 11 or 12 because my father had serious health issues and I wanted to help him somehow. When I began learning the materials provided  (books and charts, etc.), Dad told me that if one does reflexology too much, or if you are not used to it, it will make you tired. I did not believe massaging my parents feet for 20 minutes would exhaust  me, that sounded ridiculous! But, there was many an occasion it DID exhaust me, mentaly and physically. One incident well remembered was a day when both parents were exeedingly ill from stress, I gave a treatment to both of them, one immediately after the other. It was approximately 2 in the afternoon when finished, as I got up to return to my room, more than the usual exaustion aflicted me, I began to have the tightness that results in the stomach from severe stress and I also felt hungy, thirsty, nauseous and sleepy. Once back in my room I lay down to sleep and did not awaken until 7 or 8 p.m. that day! My Father used to be a practicing reflexologist when he was young and has told me other stories like this one of mine! Why does this happen when treating the feet of folks with heavy fatigue or stress???

A few years later I got a couple of old books from Grandma by the famous Mildred Carter, these books were "Helping Yourself With Foot Reflexology" and "Body Reflexology". In one book it explains that the right half of one's body has a higher "positive" electric charge, and the left half the "negative" charge so, when a reflexologist's right hand is on a patients left foot, and viceversa, it is like two batteries being connected, you are 'recharging' the other person. Nerves respond to touch by static electric/electromagnetic  pulses and this is how one drains his physical energy. Please pick up this book, it is worth a read!

Soon after I began to like martial arts and in a Chinese shop acquired a book on acupuncture and moxibustion (I don't attempt to try these though). This book helped me to understand the manipulation of the energy of the human body known as Qi. The literal translation from Chinese of this word IS energy! A while later I came across the martial are "Qigong" and began looking into it. By the Shaolin classifications, the human body contains 3 generalized energies: Jing (soul), Qi (congenital or physical energy), and Shen (often translated as 'Spirit' but I think emotion is meant?). These energies are distinct from one another but, consubstantial in that if one energy is depleted it can draw off the stores of the others to change into it's own substance and equilibrate the body to maintain health. It is this that reminds me we are "Made in the Image of God"! We seem to have a Trinitarian motor system!

Anyhow, the studies of this do not seem sinful in my reasoning, nor to any other with the use of reason who is familiar with my studies. Please, I am interested to hear any argumentation as to how this is evil. Though if it were so evil, why have countless people benefited from all this?

The current leading reflexologist -Dr. Meade, I think was his name?- became interested in this field when he was young. His Grandmother had ulcers in her stomach due to an overdose of a medication mistakenly prescribed by her doctor. So, to ease her pain, the young boy would give her foot massages everyday for a month or so. She told him his massages made her feel a lot better. When she went back to see the doctors, they were stunned to find... nothing! Her ulcers disappeared! And that was how Dr. Meade started, I believe he is from Spain... there are just so many stories like this!!!

I would like to hear input if there are any others here who are reflexologists or acupuncturists or martial artists nearl

If I were sent by Satan, I would appreciate it if he would tell me about it! I don't seem to have anything on paper or memory about such a client! :roll-laugh1:
   I pray 15 decades of the Holy Rosary each day and say the 15 St. Bridget prayers too. If I am a satanist or modernist, tell me because I don't know!

If anyone wants to know more about me, just look at my profile!

I kind of like the way TKGS puts things, it makes me laugh as it realy is humorous, thank you! (I really mean it!)

I'm sorry if anyone is scandalized by this user name but, unless it can be reasoned that it is in and of itself sinful, it shall be retained.

If anything I say is vulger or heretical or otherwise anti-Catholic, please do not hesitate to ban me, my good Moderators!  :heretic:

I am not a regular poster so, I come and go, was my last post really 3 months ago?

I suppose there is more to say but, it must be left at this for now.


Sincerely,
 The Student

"TKGS" is the common abbreviation for the well-known Tanjong Katong Girls' School in Singapore, and a user named "TKGS" is complaining about another user's name referring to an Asian religion.

Very suspicious all around!  I think both should change their names to avoid any appearance of impropriety.

Stop being an idiot.

Did you ever hear the phrase "the pot calling the kettle black"?

Never mind about TKGS's name, I see I missed what was already posted.

I see that after a three month break in posting, Student of Qi has returned to CathInfo.

Qi is the "vital energy that is held to animate the body internally and is of central importance in some Eastern systems of medical treatment (as acupuncture ) and of exercise or self-defense (as tai chi )" [Merriam-Webster].  Another definition is "The circulating life force whose existence and properties are the basis of much Chinese philosophy and medicine." [Oxford English Dictionary].  For those not convinced, "The vital force believed in Taoism and other Chinese thought to be inherent in all things. The unimpeded circulation of chi and a balance of its negative and positive forms in the body are held to be essential to good health in traditional Chinese medicine." [The American Heritage Dictionary].

In popular culture, this might also be known as "The Force", as in, "May the Force be with you."  (C'mon, how many people immediately thought, "And also with you"?)

I would caution anyone actually thinking that anybody who goes by the moniker, Student of Qi, has anything of value to contribute to a Catholic Forum and all members should be very cautious reading his posts as he is very likely sent by Satan.

For myself I see no evil in the three dictionary definitions quoted, TKGS. Surely we do have some energy that flows through our bodies and at times, we have serious blockages. I know it by my own experience. Just because a system is of eastern and non-western origin (not commonly used by Christians) does not make it evil, per se.

I must say the screen name intrigued me. I think it is good to find out more precisely how the body works for our health's benefit. Just because popular culture makes a dog's breakfast of valid concepts does not mean we have to reject them out of hand. What they mean by Force is not, I believe what Student means by force.

I simply just cannot imagine Student saying the Force be with you as he massages his parents feet - a very loving gesture in my book!

Anyway, Student of Qi, I hope you do not change your screen name. I have learnt something relatively unknown to me before this thread was started - I think that is a good thing.

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Stop being an idiot.

Did you ever hear the phrase "the pot calling the kettle black"?

I have, but you, apparently, have not.  The things are not, in any way, similar and the adage does not apply.  No one can look at "Student of Qi" and not immediately think of Eastern mysticism even if he does not know what Qi is, exactly.  It's just like Yoga or TM, that is, Transcendental Meditation, which was big stuff in the early 1970s.  (Though simply using TM probably wouldn't invoke thoughts of the Eastern mediation today as it would have years ago.)

Until you googled "TKGS" and posted what you found on the forum, I doubt even one member saw this screen name and wondered why this guy used the initials of a girls' school in Singapore.  In any event, even when I did what you did, I find that this girls' school doesn't seem to be a religious school at all but one specializing in a music.  Interesting that their school motto is, "Moribus Modestus," Latin for "Modest Behavior."  Frankly, even if someone did mistake my moniker, it would clearly not be a scandal.

Again, please stop being an idiot.

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And I am still waiting for an answer as to why this name is evil... "Martin Luther" is not in and of itself a sinful name, even though it IS attached to an evil man.

No.  You are right that the name itself is not evil.  But if you cannot see that this name would not be appropriate on a Catholic forum than you are indeed very obtuse.  Frankly, your posting history does not indicate that you are really that stupid, so one can only surmise other motivations.

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But, to me this is science and not religion...

The problem here is that you are wrong on the fact.  If you are studying the life forces that flow through the body and all living things, then you really need to stop claiming to be a traditional Catholic; a Conciliar Catholic, yes--but leave the True Catholic Faith out of it.

Ok, so, show me proof that Qigong is the same damned thing as Yoga. Yes, it does have a couple of breathing exercises that look Budist due to posture, but where is the worship aspect of this? I have never read any instructions to "open the mind" to some strange entity or adore some idole in all authentic papers ever to be in my hands from master practitioners/researchers. The only rules taught by the martial art is to not abuse the skills by harming others and to develop respect for living beings. All Catholics should have respect for God's creation, especially since he told us to be masters of the land, so we should be benevolent ones.