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« on: July 06, 2013, 02:43:58 PM »
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  • School: Brooks Institute and Dowling College - 2010, 2011
    Student loan balance: $380,000 combined
    The Harden-Stones don't believe they will ever earn enough to pay off their student loans.

    Heather (on the right) got her masters degree from Delphi University in environmental studies in 2010 after an undergraduate degree in anthropology from a private college in New York. She works as an environmental scientist and still owes $80,000 for her entire college education.

    "I really had no idea of the true cost of college. I just signed what I needed to sign and had no idea how much in loans I was taking out," she said.

    Lisa, left, racked up most of her $300,000 in loan debt from going to Brooks Institute, a top school for photography in California. Upon graduation, she discovered she'd never make enough money from photography to pay her loans. So, she got her MBA in marketing from Western International University and recently got a full-time marketing job.

    "I just got caught up in the whirlwind of borrowing and borrowing and borrowing just so I could graduate," she said.

    NEXT: My music school cost me $183,000



    Name: Kellen Kleinfelter
    School: Berklee College of Music - 2007
    Student loan balance: $173,000
    Kleinfelter plays the electric bass guitar, getting a professional music degree from one of the premier colleges for contemporary music study, and racking up $183,000 in student loans.

    After graduation, he owed monthly payments of $1,400 to the lender Sallie Mae. But Kleinfelter couldn't make a single payment, because he didn't earn enough at the music warehouses where he worked moving boxes at $7 an hour.

    The lender hounded him. "They'd call three or four times a day. They were very tough. I'd try to diffuse the situation with humor. I offered them a kidney. I asked if there was a mop I could come push at Sallie Mae. But mostly I'd say, I don't make $1,400 to give you."

    Eventually, he got a job doing information technology support engineer for a tech company. He now pays about $700 a month after Sallie Mae worked out a new monthly payment based on his income.

    "I pay more in student loans right now than I do in rent," he says. His parents co-signed his loans, which is another burden he feels. "It's the most depressing thing. I can't even off myself, because then the debt goes to my family."

    NEXT: Moving in with parents to pay off $86,000



    Name: Courtney Umhoefer
    School: Ohio State University - 2011
    Student loan balance: $86,000
    Umhoefer went partly to the University of Wisconsin and Ohio State to get her degree in consumer financial services.

    She now has a job helping financial advisers with research and trades at a small wealth management firm. But with monthly student loan payments of $950, she has about $400 left over each month for rent, food and other basics.

    After living on her own for two years, she has recently decided to move back in with her parents to save money.

    "I'm not saving for my future. I can't see myself having children or getting married or saving for a house. I feel stuck," she said.

    NEXT: 11 years later, debt still tops six figures




    Name: Samaiyah Robinson
    School: Seton Hall University - 2002
    Student loan balance: $107,000
    Robinson launched her career at Merrill Lynch after getting a degree in business administration. She believes the degree has helped her land jobs easily. So, even though she owes $900 a month in loan payments, Robinson doesn't regret going to school. She currently works as an executive assistant at a big pharmaceutical company in New Jersey.

    As a college student, Robinson said she had no idea about the consequences of borrowing so much.

    "I feel like I probably won't pay these student loans off in my lifetime, but I've got a degree from Seton Hall and it looks pretty good on my resume," she said.

    NEXT: Turned down Ivy League school



    Name: Joshua Morss
    School: State University of New York, Buffalo - 2007
    Student loan balance: 0
    As prestigious as an Ivy League education might be, it's also expensive. So, despite getting into Cornell University, Morss decided to turn down the opportunity because it was going to cost three times as much as his other choice, the State University of New York at Buffalo.

    His parents supported the decision and paid his instate tuition bill.

    "It was almost a no-brainer. An Ivy League degree might have helped with networking opportunities," Morss said.

    His advice for students: "Do everything you can to avoid student loans, because it hangs around forever."





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    What a lot of people are missing is the fact that our society essentially forces everybody into a college degree. You are forcing an 18 year old that has zero work experience (outside of a part-time job doing remidial tasks) to choose where the rest of their life is going to take them. This is the portion of your life where you will go through more changes than ever. You will change mentally, emotionally, and physically at least as much as you did during puberty. You cannot expect that anybody at this time knows where there life is heading.

    You are telling these children, who aren't even old enough to drink, that they must invest tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of dollars on a guess for what their future will hold. As these articles show, most students can't even balance a check book, let alone fathom what 100k in loans will do to the rest of your life.

    This is a problem with our society. We have absolutely no direction through high school. Hell, 75% of high school students are still absolutely positive that they will be playing professional sports in 5 years. Parents and teachers don't teach their children the negative aspects. They only focus on the diploma at the end of the 4+ years. When did somebody sit down and tell them that they will be paying $1000.00 dollars a month in student loans when you can buy a house for half of that?

    We can also blame our businesses. They see college as the training days of the workforce. They aren't willing to invest the resources to train their people anymore. That's why you can't even get an entry level position now-a-days without a 4 year degree or 4 years in the field. It's entry level! Clerical work that you need a degree for? Really?
    I have two bachelors degrees. My first from a State University in Biological Sciences and Secondary Education. The second from an online institution in the Science of Technology. I have been through it all and I shudder when I think of our future. I am also a teacher and know where our education system is heading. We should really look at changing things and fast.


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    Offline s2srea

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    « Reply #1 on: July 06, 2013, 03:16:16 PM »
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    .....Lisa, left, racked up most of her $300,000 in loan debt from going to Brooks Institute, a top school for photography in California....


    Huh... I was offered a position as a recruiter at Brooks not too long ago.  :detective:


    Offline John Grace

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    « Reply #2 on: July 06, 2013, 03:34:02 PM »
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  • One thing that I and others do is offer students free advice on finance based on Church teaching and economics. People are at different levels of awareness.

    Offline Tiffany

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    « Reply #3 on: July 06, 2013, 03:38:53 PM »
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  • One of the many reasons it's such a problem is Sallie Mae and the GOP are bedfellows and they made legislation to make it nearly impossible to get them discharged in bankruptcy court.

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    « Reply #4 on: July 06, 2013, 03:58:19 PM »
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  • This country are traitors a to God and country.  Those boy terrorists who bombed marathon were going to top Ivy League school  for free. they were on welfare food stamps free cash and housing.  


    May God bless you and keep you


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    « Reply #5 on: July 07, 2013, 05:57:51 PM »
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  • IF you go to college, wait and work for at least three years, if possible.  Learn the cost of living and grow up, mentally, emotionally, socially, spiritually.  Be mature enough to live on your own even if you don't.  Pay rent to your parents, do your own laundry, shop and cook for yourself.  Clean your quarters.  Make and keep your own dental and doctor appointments, get your hair cut.  Manage your time.  If you use a car, be responsible for its upkeep and maintenance.  That includes remembering to pay insurance, renew tags, get it inspected, fill the gas tank, get it serviced and repaired.  Better yet, actually move out and see how you do.
    If you can't handle it, you'll either learn in a hurry or return home if that's an option.  If you do return home because you're not ready, you're not ready for college, either.  Don't sweat it.  There's no magic age.  A corrupt world infantalizes us for as long as they can get away with it.
    IF you go to college, work your way through even if it takes 15 years.  DO NOT TAKE A LOAN.  You not only stand to enslave yourself, you risk bankruptcy for your parents who will have to co-sign for you.  Nobody gives a huge loan to an 18 year old without a co-signer, and who but parents will take such a risk?
    IF you go to college, know why!  You KNOW you're called by God to be a physician?  Fine!  Meet the maturity qualifications and sign on.  You've "felt a call to play the tambourine"?  Hopefully, you like fasting, walking barefoot, begging, sleeping in doorways.  If so, go ahead and sign, but leave your parents out of it.  (And don't plan on begging alms from them when your loan comes due.)
    IF you go to college, harbor no illusions.  College is NOT the real world, merely a means to an end.  Living in the dormitory is NOT equivalent to being a self-supporting adult.
    IF you go to college, live off-campus and base your social and spiritual life elsewhere.  (Colleges in big cities offer opportunities whereas small-town schools ARE the social life.)
    IF you go to college, consult the older and wiser.
    IF you go to college, be grounded in the Faith first.
     St. Francis Xavier threw a Crucifix into the sea, at once calming the waves.  Upon reaching the shore, the Crucifix was returned to him by a crab with a curious cross pattern on its shell.  

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    « Reply #6 on: July 08, 2013, 08:21:51 AM »
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  • They do give huge loans without a co-signer, even younger than 18. These loans aren't much risk to the lender.

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    « Reply #7 on: July 08, 2013, 08:37:05 AM »
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  • Really?  Things have probably changed since I had to fill out a financial aid form, the dreaded FAF had to be filed even if you had no need or intention of getting a loan.  But now I'm dating myself.  I went through the red-tape in 1977!  I know they give out credit cards like they're candy.  When I went to school, and for the first five years of my working life, I was repeatedly denied a credit card because I didn't make enough money!  Ability to repay has become irrelevant.
     St. Francis Xavier threw a Crucifix into the sea, at once calming the waves.  Upon reaching the shore, the Crucifix was returned to him by a crab with a curious cross pattern on its shell.  


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    « Reply #8 on: July 08, 2013, 08:43:44 AM »
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  • They do and I have loans that I signed for when I was a minor. Could not sign for an orthodontist to clip a wire on braces but could sign for loans!

     The credit card marketing on college campuses is wrong, there have been ѕυιcιdєs over them.

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    « Reply #9 on: July 09, 2013, 12:13:26 AM »
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  • 300K for photography?

    That's the cost of getting an MD!

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    « Reply #10 on: July 10, 2013, 10:25:07 PM »
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  • Quote from: Tiffany
    They do give huge loans without a co-signer, even younger than 18. These loans aren't much risk to the lender.


    I think there is now: for the first time I can remember, bankruptcy courts are finally ruling student loans can be included in the judgment, as so many are 'insurmountable'


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    « Reply #11 on: July 11, 2013, 05:37:47 AM »
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    I think there is now: for the first time I can remember, bankruptcy courts are finally ruling student loans can be included in the judgment, as so many are 'insurmountable'


    Where did you get the above info?

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    « Reply #12 on: July 11, 2013, 07:58:12 AM »
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    I think there is now: for the first time I can remember, bankruptcy courts are finally ruling student loans can be included in the judgment, as so many are 'insurmountable'


    Where did you get the above info?


    It's not true, it takes an adversarial hearing, and it's nearly impossible. I looked into it a few years ago, the lawyer told me I was too young and it's going to be viewed that I could marry. Like many other situations in society, women  are expected to sleep around to survive.

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    « Reply #13 on: July 11, 2013, 12:32:39 PM »
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    I think there is now: for the first time I can remember, bankruptcy courts are finally ruling student loans can be included in the judgment, as so many are 'insurmountable'


    Where did you get the above info?


    It's not true, it takes an adversarial hearing, and it's nearly impossible. I looked into it a few years ago, the lawyer told me I was too young and it's going to be viewed that I could marry. Like many other situations in society, women  are expected to sleep around to survive.


    "A few years ago"

    I said "now"

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    « Reply #14 on: July 11, 2013, 12:34:04 PM »
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    I think there is now: for the first time I can remember, bankruptcy courts are finally ruling student loans can be included in the judgment, as so many are 'insurmountable'


    Where did you get the above info?


    A bankruptcy attorney. It is a very recent development.