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Offline poche

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« on: August 21, 2014, 03:36:31 AM »
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  •  Organizers of a satanic black mass slated to take place in Oklahoma City next month face a lawsuit on grounds that the consecrated Host used for the sacrilegious event is stolen.

    “We are honored to represent Archbishop Coakley in this fight against the desecration of the Blessed Sacrament,” attorney Michael W. Caspino told The National Catholic Register. “The archbishop should be lauded for his courageous stance against the enemies of the Church.”

    “Our legal theory is very simple,” he continued, “a Consecrated Eucharist belongs to the Church.”

    “The Church has exercised dominion and control over the Eucharist for 2000 years. The Satanists procured the Consecrated Host by illicit means, by theft or fraud. We are simply asking the Court to return the stolen property to its rightful owner, the Roman Catholic Church.”  

    The lawsuit was filed in Oklahoma City District Court July 20 on behalf of the local archdiocese by Busch & Caspino.

    On Sept. 21, a black mass is scheduled to take place at the Oklahoma City Civic Center music hall.

    Connected to witchcraft and demonic worship, a black mass is a sacrilegious ceremony structured as a parody of the Catholic Mass. Invoking Satan, the ritual is centered around the desecration of the Eucharist, which is generally done by stealing a consecrated host from a Catholic church and using it in a profane sɛҳuąƖ ritual, or defecating and urinating on it.

    The event organizer Adam Daniels said the purported Eucharistic Host was “mailed to us by (a) friend.”

    “As far as I know, the host mailed to me is consecrated,” he told the Catholic news site Aleteia Aug. 6.

    In July, an official with the city music hall defended the decision, citing the hall’s neutrality policy. She told CNA that as long as no laws were broken during the event itself, the city hall was not concerned with whether laws may be broken in obtaining a consecrated host ahead of time. She said that similar events scheduled in previous years had poor or no attendance.

    Archbishop Paul Coakley of Oklahoma City has called on the civic center to reconsider hosting the event, which he described as “grievous sacrilege and blasphemy of the first order.”

    Black masses, he told CNA in July, revolve around “taking what is most sacred to us as Catholics, and mocking it, desecrating it, in vile, often violent and sɛҳuąƖly explicit ways.”

    “It's obviously horrendous…what they intend to do with that consecrated Host is offensive beyond description.”

    Archbishop Coakley and other bishops in nearby dioceses have called for novenas of prayer and fasting to stop the black mass.

    A similar event scheduled by Harvard Extension School’s Cultural Studies Club in May was “postponed indefinitely” amid protest among students and the local community.

    http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/black-mass-organizers-face-lawsuit-over-stolen-host-96131/


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    « Reply #1 on: August 21, 2014, 09:01:30 PM »
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  • I'm betting that if it were a Koran being desecrated rather than the Eucharist, the outcry would be heard around the world.


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    « Reply #2 on: August 22, 2014, 03:59:13 AM »
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  • A lawyer representing the Archdiocese of Oklahoma City has announced victory in a lawsuit brought by the archdiocese to block a Black Mass that had beens scheduled for the city's civic center in September.

    Attorney Michael Crispino announced that, facing a court order, the leader of the Satanist group organizing the event had agreed to return a consecrated host to Archbishop Paul Coakley. The archdiocese, in its lawsuit, had argued that a consecrated host belongs to the Church, and thus the Satanist group was holding stolen property.

    “A key part of the Black Mass is to desecrate or destroy a consecrated host,” Caspino said. “Without this sacred property, a Black Mass has absolutely no significance, so this group will not be able to hold its satanic ritual as planned.”

    "We stared down the devil and he blinked," Crispino said.

    http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=22361

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    « Reply #3 on: August 22, 2014, 06:26:08 AM »
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  • They could be lying. They could have returned a non consecrated host. Unless the event is stopped there is no victory.

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    « Reply #4 on: August 22, 2014, 06:46:43 AM »
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  • I guess I should have added that they are claiming the Host has already been returned.

    http://veneremurcernui.wordpress.com/2014/08/21/god-be-praised-consecrated-host-to-be-used-in-okc-black-mass-ostensibly-returned/


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    « Reply #5 on: August 22, 2014, 06:53:25 AM »
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  • I think it's best to just assume that anything that a group says that worships 'the father of lies' is just that...Lies...Apparently, the organizer claims he received the consecrated host in the mail from a 'priest' friend from Turkey who also happens to be a satanist. Could be....But my money is on a communion in the hand recipient who simply pocketed the host and handed it to the guy afterward...or possibly, the guy was the recipient himself....It really is that easy.

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    « Reply #6 on: August 22, 2014, 10:48:27 AM »
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  • Quote from: 1st Mansion Tenant
    I'm betting that if it were a Koran being desecrated rather than the Eucharist, the outcry would be heard around the world.


    That brings up an interesting point. For any other religious group, there IS no equivalent to the Blessed Sacrament.

    I could joke and say, "Want to offend the Jєωs? Burn a pile of money!"

    But, seriously, the closest I can come is this analogy:

    Imagine your mother is a saintly soul who spends her days visiting the homes of the sick and taking care of them, getting no recompense. Note: she is much loved by you, worthy of much love, and she places herself in a vulnerable position out of love.

    Joe Satanist decides to take advantage of her, and "pretends to be sick" and as soon as she enters his house, he takes her hostage and proceeds to commit outrages against her.

    Wouldn't anyone be offended at that?
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    « Reply #7 on: August 22, 2014, 01:40:38 PM »
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    I'm betting that if it were a Koran being desecrated rather than the Eucharist, the outcry would be heard around the world.


    If there are real Catholics in Oklahoma this event will not happen without repercussions. We'll see if they're candyasses or worthy of being called Catholic soon enough.


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    « Reply #8 on: August 24, 2014, 10:35:23 PM »
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  • Quote from: Christopher67
    I think it's best to just assume that anything that a group says that worships 'the father of lies' is just that...Lies...Apparently, the organizer claims he received the consecrated host in the mail from a 'priest' friend from Turkey who also happens to be a satanist. Could be....But my money is on a communion in the hand recipient who simply pocketed the host and handed it to the guy afterward...or possibly, the guy was the recipient himself....It really is that easy.

    He could have taken a non-consecrated host from a basket at the front of the church.

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    « Reply #9 on: August 24, 2014, 11:12:04 PM »
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  • Quote from: Quasimodo
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    I'm betting that if it were a Koran being desecrated rather than the Eucharist, the outcry would be heard around the world.


    If there are real Catholics in Oklahoma this event will not happen without repercussions. We'll see if they're candyasses or worthy of being called Catholic soon enough.


    I think we Oklahoma Catholics should book E. Michael Jones to talk about how awful тαℓмυdic Judaism is and start the show off with a burning of a pile of korans.  

    We could have David Duke as a guest speaker on the plight of white genocide in Europe.


    I wonder if the OKC Civic Center would allow that.
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    « Reply #10 on: August 25, 2014, 11:53:19 AM »
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  • Quote from: poche
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    I think it's best to just assume that anything that a group says that worships 'the father of lies' is just that...Lies...Apparently, the organizer claims he received the consecrated host in the mail from a 'priest' friend from Turkey who also happens to be a satanist. Could be....But my money is on a communion in the hand recipient who simply pocketed the host and handed it to the guy afterward...or possibly, the guy was the recipient himself....It really is that easy.

    He could have taken a non-consecrated host from a basket at the front of the church.


    ???

    Poche,

    Does the church you go to have baskets of hosts just sitting around in the front of the church?

    ???

    As for a Satanist getting a consecrated host all they have to do is go to any novus ordo service and hold their hand out.  They could pretend to put it in their mouth as they walk away from the layperson in a mini-skirt and then carefully drop it in their front pocket.  


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    « Reply #11 on: August 27, 2014, 03:52:29 AM »
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  • Following a legal decision, the organizers of a satanic ritual have returned a consecrated Host to the Archdiocese of Oklahoma City.

    “I am relieved that we have been able to secure the return of the sacred Host, and that we have prevented its desecration as part of a planned satanic ritual,” said Archbishop Paul Coakley. “I remain concerned about the dark powers that this satanic worship invites into our community and the spiritual danger that this poses to all who are involved in it, directly or indirectly.”


    http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=22389

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    « Reply #12 on: September 16, 2014, 07:38:19 PM »
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  • I believe this event is too take place soon.

    I wonder however, is this a mockery to the novus ordo service or do "they" know the difference between a Mass and Protestant service, of which the novus ordo is.  Novus ordo hosts are "abused" all the time.  If an older novus ordo priest ordained in the old rite consecrated properly, it might be Jesus.  

    I wonder, what God has planned for this event?
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    « Reply #13 on: September 16, 2014, 07:43:12 PM »
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    I wonder, what God has planned for this event?


    Um..probably the same thing He had planned for the all the previous black masses that ever took place -


















    nothing.




    He allows these things to happen.  

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    « Reply #14 on: September 16, 2014, 07:47:32 PM »
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  • I forgot to add this recent link.

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/thousands-sign-online-petition-stop-black-mass/story?id=25536132


    modofac, I see your point, however in the past, these evil deeds were done sort of hidden, but today they are selling tickets and are actually SOLD OUT, it just seems different.  
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