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Offline Marlelar

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« on: March 08, 2014, 10:19:52 AM »
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  • I thought it was customary for the Stations to be done on Friday during Lent.  Our Lady of Sorrows in Phoenix used to do them every year but for some reason are not doing them this year. :sad:  

    Even the NO parishes do them every year around here and add a soup supper to boot.

    What do your chapels do?

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    « Reply #1 on: March 09, 2014, 01:55:54 PM »
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  •  We had them up to last year.  Not last week and not in this week's bulletin.  Checked with a couple other chapels here in Canada and not there either.
    The Stations of the Cross is the highest devotion and the most highly indulgenced devotion in Catholicism.  If they do away with that, they'll do away with anything.
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    « Reply #2 on: March 09, 2014, 04:07:26 PM »
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  • My chapel has stations of the cross each Friday of Lent at 6:30 pm.

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    « Reply #3 on: March 09, 2014, 04:50:00 PM »
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  • They are rare but not unheard of in Byzantine churches.  I go to Stations every Friday either in a Latin rte church or at the seminary.
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    « Reply #4 on: March 09, 2014, 09:38:11 PM »
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  • Queen of the Holy Rosary 27th ave and Myrtle have Stations of the Cross on Friday eve


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    « Reply #5 on: March 10, 2014, 01:24:13 AM »
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  • Was announced at Mass today that they are going to start the Stations this Friday.  Perhaps they had a lot of complaints???  Don't know why but I'm glad they will be doing them.

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    « Reply #6 on: March 10, 2014, 02:46:28 PM »
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  •  :dancing-banana:
    For the last three years, the chapel was open every evening during Lent.  So few came that it was discontinued.  Those that used to faithfully open and lock up are mostly too old to continue, and many have died or moved away.  There are too few young people willing and able to carry on.  The large majority now live too far away to make a mid-week Lenten visit.  There is a shortage of men, in particular, as the chapel is located in an area known, unfortunately, for its high crime rate.  Several times in the past, I've gone to All Night Adoration and found myself "alone" in the chapel in the wee hours of the night.  Our Lord is there, so I wasn't particularly worried.  Nothing bad happened, but the priest was not happy when someone told him.  
    I'd LIKE to go, but I live too far away and don't get off work until late, so it's just not possible.  Any extra Lenten devotions I do either while travelling to/from work or at home.
     St. Francis Xavier threw a Crucifix into the sea, at once calming the waves.  Upon reaching the shore, the Crucifix was returned to him by a crab with a curious cross pattern on its shell.  

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    « Reply #7 on: March 10, 2014, 03:02:44 PM »
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  • My chapel is in a hotel room. No, they don't rent it on Friday nights for stations of the cross, though if they did, I would go.
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    « Reply #8 on: March 10, 2014, 04:25:20 PM »
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  • Marlelar:  So, you are saying that, Our Lady of Sorrows IS going to have Stations of the Cross, now?

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    « Reply #9 on: March 17, 2014, 12:38:05 PM »
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    Independent chapels that borrow rooms for Mass don't have stations (in my experience) and it seems to me there is a reason, that according to Church law, the stations must be blessed by the local bishop.  That is, in a new church, after the stations are erected (the pictures/statues are hung on the walls), before the faithful can use them for Stations of the Cross, the local bishop has to come in and bless each one of them, usually with a specific ritual that entails sprinkling holy water on each station, incensing it with a thurifer and burning frankinsense, and saying the prayers, all in a public ceremony.  Read any good description of indulgences for Stations of the Cross, and you'll see they say that to get the indulgences described, one must do the Stations at a place where stations have been erected and blessed by the local bishop.

    That can't be done in a rented room, or in a hotel hall, or in a building where the walls holding the stations will be transformed for use other than for the Catholic religion.  You can't have stations today and an art auction tomorrow in the same room.  

    In the rented hall where my friends have weekly Mass, it would be very nice to have Stations of the Cross before or after Mass, but we would have to erect stations temporarily, so they could be removed after Mass when we evacuate the place.  I doubt our priest would approve of such a procedure.  And I'm almost certain there is no bishop who would come and bless such temporary stations.  If he did, would the stations lose their blessing when they are taken down each week?  Would the blessing return when they are re-erected each week?  Would the stations be useful anywhere ELSE as blessed stations such that they could be used elsewhere and retain the blessing when erected temporarily there?  Would the bishop have to come in and bless them again before each use, or could the bishop give the power to the priest to be able to re-enact that blessing before Stations are prayed by the faithful?

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    My chapel is in a hotel room. No, they don't rent it on Friday nights for stations of the cross, though if they did, I would go.


    I suspect you're not alone, Matto.   I would go, too.  I should think there would be some way of getting "supplied jurisdiction" to work for the indulgences in this crisis time.



    Curiously, when the so-called cathedral of Los Angeles was erected by the deplorable Roger Cardinal Balony --- I mean Mahony, he did not bless the stations on the wall in the new church.  Instead, he walked around the 'nave' (it's not really a nave) and smacked the wall with something resembling a burlap sack that had some kind of oil or other substance on it, and then clumsily rubbing the wall with the sack as if he didn't know what he was doing, so it left a greasy smear on the wall.  For the next year or two, anyone coming to the so-called cathedral would be able to see the random smudges of greasy splotches left from that action.  He muttered some kind of words that nobody recognized.  There was no images, pictures, statues, engravings or even markings on the walls at the places where he did this.  The walls were pour-in-place concrete, with inherent surface abnormalities and air bubbles cut in half which resemble pits of various sizes.  When the walls were first made, there is a process in construction known as "sacking," whereby a slurry of Portland Cement and water is used, and where a burlap sack is dipped in the mix, and the sack is slapped onto the wall and then rubbed vigorously, so that the cement fills the surface pits where air bubbles formed during the concrete pour.  The procedure that Mahony used seemed to me to be an idea he came up with by his having previously watched the construction crew in action.

    To this day, there are no stations in the so-called cathedral of Los Angeles.  However, anyone asking about them is directed to the basement, "the Dungeon," as it's popularly known, where there is a dumpy chapel that doubles as aa oversized broom closet.  This is not a joke.  On one end of the 30' x 40' room is an area that occupies about 15% of the floor area of the entire room (180 sq.ft. +/-) where odd items, flotsam and jetsam, are kept for possible future use.  This area can be closed off by a temporary, movable room divider that hangs from a track on the ceiling.  When it's open (usually the case, so that visitors normally can see all the junk piled up) the 'chapel' has an appearance of disarray and chaos.  Ironically, the doctrinal chaos is principally upstairs in the main church.   There are no permanent pews, and no permanent altar.  The room has an open floor area that can be used for any arrangement of furniture brought into it.  When an altar is set up it is a temporary altar, which is then removed at the end of the service -- not unlike many of our independent chapels where the TLM Mass is said.  Fr. Schell had three such portable altars, which he carried around (one at a time) in the trunk of his car, all over southern California.

    This dumpy chapel is where the Stations of the Cross are located at the Cathedral of Our Lady of the Angels.  They are nice, framed sculptures, in color, about 20" square.  they are on 3 of the 4 walls of the room.  The 4th wall is behind the movable room partition, and is piled high with junk.  Nobody seems to know anything about whether or how these stations were blessed by the bishop, and nobody knows whether Stations of the Cross are held in there.  I have never seen anyone use them for praying Stations, but I would imagine that someone must have by now.  

    The reason that the stations are erected in the nave of a church is so that the public can see the public practice of praying the Stations of the Cross.


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    « Reply #10 on: March 17, 2014, 12:52:55 PM »
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    When I was a child, parish churches everywhere in my experience would have Stations every Friday in Lent, and every other day you could find Catholics inside the churches praying Stations privately.  They would move down the center aisle from one station to the next, genuflecting, making the Sign of the Cross and saying their prayers.  To get the indulgence for Stations, one must move from one station to the next in this way.  Alternatively, if a group is doing Stations, one or more people can move from station to station, while others remain in their pews, standing, genuflecting and kneeling during the prayers.  

    I recall seeing various people thus privately praying Stations at various times all during the year, not just during Lent.  That was before, during and after Vat.II.  then when the Newmass was trucked in, Stations became much less common, and by the time the Newcode arrived (1983), Stations other than on Friday in Lent practically had vanished.  


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    « Reply #11 on: March 17, 2014, 07:45:19 PM »
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  • We don't have them here, but if they did, I would go.

    One of the problems with Friday nights can be the traffic in urban areas. I've lived in an area where I'd be stuck in traffic half the time and miss what was going on, no matter what time I left. People have who have to follow the fast and work can also have a difficult time getting there, if it is a distance. I've noticed that the best-attended Stations are usually those with easy access to the chapel.

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    « Reply #12 on: March 17, 2014, 11:10:22 PM »
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  • Quote from: songbird
    Marlelar:  So, you are saying that, Our Lady of Sorrows IS going to have Stations of the Cross, now?


    Yes, 6 pm if memory serves.

    Marsha

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    « Reply #13 on: March 17, 2014, 11:20:59 PM »
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  •  :pray:Yes, several volunteers were found to keep watch, so chapel will again be open.
     St. Francis Xavier threw a Crucifix into the sea, at once calming the waves.  Upon reaching the shore, the Crucifix was returned to him by a crab with a curious cross pattern on its shell.  

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    « Reply #14 on: March 18, 2014, 12:18:31 AM »
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  • They will have them twice a week where I live.